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"Tim Campbell" <timcall(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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On Jan 24, 4:25 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
> Tim Campbell wrote:
> > Testimonials:
> > My father was a veterinarian and as far back as I can remember (I was
> > born in 1938 so my memory goes back to maybe 1943) he would take
> > sodium bicarbonate dissolved in a full glass of warm water whenever he
> > felt a cold coming on. I don�t remember him ever coming down with a
> > full blown cold. He would treat my cold symptoms likewise and I
> > responded equally as well. He also treated farm animals for various
> > illnesses with sodium bicarbonate via a gastric tube and they
> > recovered quickly. So I�ve known about the benefits of sodium
> > bicarbonate from early childhood on. Glad to see that its benefits are
> > being more widely touted. Although my father was a doctor of
> > Veterinarian medicine, he sometimes referred to himself as an MD (Mule
> > Doctor).
>
> > Dr. David B Winter, DO
>
> As a physician, you should know about clinical trials. And, you should
> also know about the placebo effect. Now, with this info, please show us
> reliable data that show that sodium bicarb is worth anything to treat or
> prevent cold symptoms. Please, also tell us the mechanism by which it
> works. Use your scientific background.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

>Why not simply give it a try the next time you are starting >to get a
>cold or find yourself in the middle of one?

How do you know it's not the warm water? What if you have hypertension?


From: Tim Campbell on
On Jan 26, 4:48 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
>
> > Why not simply give it a try the next time you are starting to get a
> > cold or find yourself in the middle of one?
>
> And how would I know if it is working or I would have become better on
> my own, perhaps even faster?

Give it a try, and you decide.
From: dr_jeff on
Tim Campbell wrote:
> On Jan 26, 4:48 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
> >
>>> Why not simply give it a try the next time you are starting to get a
>>> cold or find yourself in the middle of one?
>> And how would I know if it is working or I would have become better on
>> my own, perhaps even faster?
>
> Give it a try, and you decide.

I did. The bicarb is totally useless.
From: Tim Campbell on
On Jan 28, 8:15 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
>
> >  Give it a try, and you decide.
>
> I did. The bicarb is totally useless.

Well, a rather prominent physician from our past apparently would
disagree.

"The paragraph below is from a 1924 booklet, published by the Arm &
Hammer Soda Company. On page 12 the company starts off saying, “The
proven value of Arm & Hammer Bicarbonate of Soda as a therapeutic
agent is further evinced by the following evidence of a prominent
physician named Dr. Volney S. Cheney, in a letter to the Church &
Dwight Company:

“In 1918 and 1919 while fighting the ‘Flu’ with the U. S. Public
Health Service it was brought to my attention that rarely any one who
had been thoroughly alkalinized with bicarbonate of soda contracted
the disease, and those who did contract it, if alkalinized early,
would invariably have mild attacks. I have since that time treated all
cases of ‘Cold,’ Influenza and LaGripe by first giving generous doses
of Bicarbonate of Soda, and in many, many instances within 36 hours
the symptoms would have entirely abated. Further, within my own
household, before Woman’s Clubs and Parent-Teachers’ Associations, I
have advocated the use of Bicarbonate of Soda as a preventive for
“Colds,” with the result that now many reports are coming in stating
that those who took “Soda” were not affected, while nearly every one
around them had the “Flu.”"


From: Tim Campbell on
On Jan 28, 8:15 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
>
> >  Give it a try, and you decide.
>
> I did. The bicarb is totally useless.

It is worth noting that it is important to take the bicarbonate on an
empty stomach and well away from the ingestion of food and any drinks
that may be acidic; like coffee, many juices or soft drinks.

I don't take food or drink 2 hours before or after taking the
bicarbonate.