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From: Tim Campbell on 24 Jan 2010 17:02
Testimonials:
My father was a veterinarian and as far back as I can remember (I was
born in 1938 so my memory goes back to maybe 1943) he would take
sodium bicarbonate dissolved in a full glass of warm water whenever he
felt a cold coming on. I don’t remember him ever coming down with a
full blown cold. He would treat my cold symptoms likewise and I
responded equally as well. He also treated farm animals for various
illnesses with sodium bicarbonate via a gastric tube and they
recovered quickly. So I’ve known about the benefits of sodium
bicarbonate from early childhood on. Glad to see that its benefits are
being more widely touted. Although my father was a doctor of
Veterinarian medicine, he sometimes referred to himself as an MD (Mule
Doctor).

Dr. David B Winter, DO


From: Tim Campbell on 26 Jan 2010 18:00
On Jan 25, 5:29 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:


> How do you know that you didn't just happen to take the bicarb when you
> were at your worst and about to get better?



I don't. Except that now, as I have been talking about this to family
and friends I am finding others whose parents and grand parents knew
about this. And my sister stopped a cold in its tracks this way last
weekend....

Peculiar sort of mass delusion going on apparently...;^)



From: Tim Campbell on 29 Jan 2010 15:15
On Jan 26, 5:00 pm, Tim Campbell <timc...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On Jan 25, 5:29 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
>
> > How do you know that you didn't just happen to take the bicarb when you
> > were at your worst and about to get better?
>
Well, let's see how a prominent physician from earlier in our history
evaluated the use of bicarbonate:

"The paragraph below is from a 1924 booklet, published by the Arm &
Hammer Soda Company. On page 12 the company starts off saying, “The
proven value of Arm & Hammer Bicarbonate of Soda as a therapeutic
agent is further evinced by the following evidence of a prominent
physician named Dr. Volney S. Cheney, in a letter to the Church &
Dwight Company:

“In 1918 and 1919 while fighting the ‘Flu’ with the U. S. Public
Health Service it was brought to my attention that rarely any one who
had been thoroughly alkalinized with bicarbonate of soda contracted
the disease, and those who did contract it, if alkalinized early,
would invariably have mild attacks. I have since that time treated all
cases of ‘Cold,’ Influenza and LaGripe by first giving generous doses
of Bicarbonate of Soda, and in many, many instances within 36 hours
the symptoms would have entirely abated. Further, within my own
household, before Woman’s Clubs and Parent-Teachers’ Associations, I
have advocated the use of Bicarbonate of Soda as a preventive for
“Colds,” with the result that now many reports are coming in stating
that those who took “Soda” were not affected, while nearly every one
around them had the “Flu.”"


From: Courtney on 30 Jan 2010 13:51
On Jan 29, 6:50 pm, "Lou" <lpog...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:


> Once you've done all that, you can come to a reasonably reliable conclusion
> as to how effective your proposed treatment is. If anyone's done that for
> using bicarbonate to treat flu or colds, I've never heard of it.



So you're denying any degree of validity to the claims of a prominent
physician of the day, working day in and day out in the trenches of
the largest influenza outbreak of that era?

Especially regarding something that is so simply and easily
demonstrable for oneself. Most folks have a box of Arm & Hammer in
their kitchen or bathroom.



From: chorleydnc on 30 Jan 2010 16:07
On Jan 30, 12:51 pm, Courtney <ckin...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jan 29, 6:50 pm, "Lou" <lpog...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Once you've done all that, you can come to a reasonably reliable conclusion
> > as to how effective your proposed treatment is.  If anyone's done that for
> > using bicarbonate to treat flu or colds, I've never heard of it.
>
> So you're denying any degree of validity to the claims of a prominent
> physician of the day, working day in and day out in the trenches of
> the largest influenza outbreak of that era?
>
> Especially regarding something that is so simply and easily
> demonstrable for oneself. Most folks have a box of Arm & Hammer in
> their kitchen or bathroom.

Oh heck physicians of that day didn't even know the basis of the
difference between filterable and non-filterable viruses. The
bacterium Hemophilus influenza is so called because some investigators
implicated this bacterium (a non-filterable virus) as the causative
agent before it (the causative agent) was positively identified as a
filterable virus (of the H1N1 variety hence the panic of last year).

Taking bicarbonate of soda will give you a good burp as it neutralizes
your gastric acid and releases CO2. You then have sodium chloride in
your stomach. After the excess bicarbonate passes into the duodenum it
is mixed with the pancreatic juices and food bolus. It has to be
absorbed via the brush border villi. Bicarbonate is actively conserved
by the gall bladder and excreted by the kidneys. Any excess or
deficiency which would raise the pH beyond about 7.45 would cause loss
from the kidneys. If you stress the body beyond that you would
experience the symptoms of altitude sickness.

Individual testimonies have no bearing.

Hard science would tell you you are just wrong.

David
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