From: Mark STANLEY Probert on
On Aug 10, 5:46 pm, "trigonometry1...(a)gmail.com |"
<trigonometry1...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 10, 8:25 am, Mark STANLEY Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 10, 2:20 am, "trigonometry1...(a)gmail.com |"
>
> > <trigonometry1...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Aug 4, 8:20 am, Mark Probert-Drew <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Aug 3, 5:03 am, "carole" <hubbca2...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> > > > > "Mark Probert-Drew" <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > >news:b9f516f9-55cc-46e9-9fef-d1df89ef138b(a)g21g2000prn.googlegroups..com...
> > > > > On Aug 1, 5:14 am, "carole" <hubbca2...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> > > > > > "Jan Drew" <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > > >news:437e5f67-e78b-456e-8b08-4cd28628ffae(a)k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > > > > Mark Stanley Probert
> > > > > > > Peter Bowditch
> > > > > > > Peter B
> > > > > > > Peter Moran
> > > > > > > Martin Rady
> > > > > > > Bob Officer
> > > > > > > Andrew Kingoff
> > > > > > > DC Sessions
> > > > > > > Ken Flakey
> > > > > > > Steelclaws
> > > > > > > Happy Oyster
>
> > > > > > The problem Jan, with these poor demented sods, is that they can't think
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > terms of conspiracies.
>
> > > > > Wrong. I believe that you, Jan, and David are part of BigQuack, the
> > > > > secret society of altie nut cases that promote quackery.
> > > > > =======================
>
> > > > > And I believe that you and all the conventional mob haven't really got a
> > > > > grasp of the big picture.
>
> > > > I used to watch "The Big Picture" on TV in the 1950's.
>
> > > > I do have an excellent grasp of the "Big Picture" because I think, use
> > > > logic, do research, and have a sound education in the sciences.
>
> > > Now that show was priceless!! I laughed and shock my head
> > > even as a kid, when it had
> > > a show on above ground nuclear bomb testing. Troops around
> > > the blast!!
>
> > We used to watch them live on The Today show, with Dave Garroway.
>
> >  And a car wash for folks who had happened to travel
>
> > > thru the fallout area. Of course, they didn't mention the
> > > fall out hot spots spread all the way to New York and
> > > the related milk contamination.
>
> > Not during the show, but, at other times they mentioned Strontium 90,
> > which Carole thinks is a nutrient.
>
> Of course, strontium can have health benefits not to be confused
> with Sr-90.
>
>
>
> > > Though I think they had a shows on the healthfulness
> > > of diary products, cranberries, and hot dogs, lol.
> > > It as all about what the government wanted the public
> > > to think. Your parents tax dollars at work.
>
> > > And of course my childhood rock set had both galena
> > > (shiny lead source) and uranium. One has got
> > > to "love" the 50's and early 60's. And the "Green
> > > Run" lasted to the early 70's......................Trig
>
> > I received a kit entitled "Asbestos-The Magic Mineral" from the
> > Canadian Asbestos Board (or something like that) and did a 'show and
> > tell' in class.
>
> Yeah that rock sample kit had asbestos. Plus all the rock samples
> from my dads friends and cronies. That thing was a college or
> university grade
> collection and is one of the things I lost on the way of life.
> It also had simple things like andesite, basalt, quartz, flint, and
> obsidian.
> And there as the huge chuck on cinnabar plus a vial of
> native mercury as well. There was assort complex ores
> samples from mines and untapped resources from Alaska
> to California.

At one point in time, I wanted to be a geologist. I was wait-listed by
the Colorado School of Mines.

>
>
>
> >http://archives.cbc.ca/health/public_health/topics/608/
>
> > > Or as someone said one watches the "Big Picture"
> > > 'to know what your enemies want you think.'-
>
> > I also watched Library Lions. Do you recal lthat show?
>
> Back in the day, there was only one channel or less.
> I was raised in the very rural west. So no that not
> one I've seen.-

It was produced by the New York Public Library and was absolutely
excellent. It should be resurrected.
From: Jan Drew on
On Aug 10, 11:25 am, Mark STANLEY Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Aug 10, 2:20 am, "trigonometry1...(a)gmail.com |"
>
>
>
>
>
> <trigonometry1...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Aug 4, 8:20 am, Mark Probert-Drew <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 3, 5:03 am, "carole" <hubbca2...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> > > > "Mark Probert-Drew" <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > > >news:b9f516f9-55cc-46e9-9fef-d1df89ef138b(a)g21g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> > > > On Aug 1, 5:14 am, "carole" <hubbca2...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> > > > > "Jan Drew" <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > >news:437e5f67-e78b-456e-8b08-4cd28628ffae(a)k19g2000yqc.googlegroups..com...
>
> > > > > > Mark Stanley Probert
> > > > > > Peter Bowditch
> > > > > > Peter B
> > > > > > Peter Moran
> > > > > > Martin Rady
> > > > > > Bob Officer
> > > > > > Andrew Kingoff
> > > > > > DC Sessions
> > > > > > Ken Flakey
> > > > > > Steelclaws
> > > > > > Happy Oyster
>
> > > > > The problem Jan, with these poor demented sods, is that they can't think
> > > > > in
> > > > > terms of conspiracies.
>
> > > > Wrong. I believe that you, Jan, and David are part of BigQuack, the
> > > > secret society of altie nut cases that promote quackery.
> > > > =======================
>
> > > > And I believe that you and all the conventional mob haven't really got a
> > > > grasp of the big picture.
>
> > > I used to watch "The Big Picture" on TV in the 1950's.
>
> > > I do have an excellent grasp of the "Big Picture" because I think, use
> > > logic, do research, and have a sound education in the sciences.
>
> > Now that show was priceless!! I laughed and shock my head
> > even as a kid, when it had
> > a show on above ground nuclear bomb testing. Troops around
> > the blast!!
>
> We used to watch them live on The Today show, with Dave Garroway.
>
>  And a car wash for folks who had happened to travel
>
> > thru the fallout area. Of course, they didn't mention the
> > fall out hot spots spread all the way to New York and
> > the related milk contamination.
>
> Not during the show, but, at other times they mentioned Strontium 90,
> which Carole thinks is a nutrient.
>
> > Though I think they had a shows on the healthfulness
> > of diary products, cranberries, and hot dogs, lol.
> > It as all about what the government wanted the public
> > to think. Your parents tax dollars at work.
>
> > And of course my childhood rock set had both galena
> > (shiny lead source) and uranium. One has got
> > to "love" the 50's and early 60's. And the "Green
> > Run" lasted to the early 70's......................Trig
>
> I received a kit entitled "Asbestos-The Magic Mineral" from the
> Canadian Asbestos Board (or something like that) and did a 'show and
> tell' in class.

Speaking of Asbestos.

Here is the lie you posted:
http://my.webmd.com/content/article/91/100996.htm?lastselectedguid=%7...

Asbestos Deaths Up

Some Post-World War II Buildings Still Have Asbestos


By Jeanie Lerche Davis
Reviewed By Michael Smith, MD
on Thursday, July 22, 2004


More From WebMD


Like This Article? Send It to a Friend


July 22, 2004 -- Asbestos-related deaths have increased fourfold in
the past three decades, according to a new CDC report.


There are no early symptoms of asbestosis or other lung diseases,
known medically as pneumoconiosis. But in advanced stages, they can
cause disability and premature death since there is no effective
treatment.


The CDC report -- which documents cases from 1968 to 2000 -- shows an
overall decrease in coal miner's and other lung diseases during that
time, except for asbestosis.


Between 1982 and 2000, death rates from coal workers' lung disease
dropped by 36% -- likely due to a decline in the coal mining industry
-- and death rates from silicosis and other pneumoconiosis diseases
dropped by 70%.


However, death rates from asbestos exposure increased steadily during
that period:


Blacks had a 448% increase; whites had a 342% increase.


Most deaths were among people over age 45.


The coastal states -- where asbestos was frequently used in
shipbuilding -- had the greatest increases.


Women's lung disease-related death rates were substantially lower
than
men's, but asbestos-related deaths were still high.


"Because asbestosis [death] peaks 40-45 years after initial exposure
to asbestos, this upward trend reflects past exposure to asbestos
fibers," states the report.


Asbestos was a popular construction material during and after World
War II, but use was halted in the late 1980s when the health risks
became obvious.


Nevertheless, asbestos can be found in some buildings today and is a
potential risk, the report states.


In addition to pneumoconiosis, asbestos has been linked to
mesothelioma, a difficult-to-treat lung cancer. Symptoms don't
usually
appear until the cancer is very advanced, and most patients survive
only nine to 13 months after diagnosis. But new treatments have
recently been approved for mesothelioma and may help prolong survival
in these patients.


~~~~~~~~~


www.BreastImplantAwareness.org


Another longtime cover up:


Mark S Probert posted:

I wrote:



> Hulda Clark has been warning people of mold and abestos for
> years,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,while other were busy calling her a quack.

Mark posted:


>People were correctly calling her a quack for many reasons, none being
asbestos related.


>The simple fact is that there is no cover-up regarding asbestos. In the
1980's, under AHERA, schools nationwide removed tons of it.
Construction
companies were forced to perform abatement before renovations or
demolition.
There is no doubt that there are very sick people with asbestosis and
mesothelioma who were exposed to asbestos. I meet several of them
every
month and can usually find some documentation of their possible
exposure so
they can recevie WC benefits.


>Backj in the 1950's and 1960's, there was no idea that asbestos exposure
could be so dangerous. During WWII boat builders at the Navy Yards
were
routinely exposed to it, brought the dust home, and exposed their
families.
No one knew.


>When I was in elementary school, I received a kit from a group in Canada,
where asbestos was mined, called "Asbestos-The Magic Mineral." I
brought it
to school for a science project. No one knew.

Once the dangers became known, precautions were put in place, and,
eventually, abatement was begun. There is far less asbestos in our
environment to day, and HULDA CLARK HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!

Anyone claiming that there was a cover-up is an liar.



From: Jan Drew on
On Aug 10, 11:25 am, Mark STANLEY Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Aug 10, 2:20 am, "trigonometry1...(a)gmail.com |"
>
>
>
>
>
> <trigonometry1...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Aug 4, 8:20 am, Mark Probert-Drew <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 3, 5:03 am, "carole" <hubbca2...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> > > > "Mark Probert-Drew" <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > > >news:b9f516f9-55cc-46e9-9fef-d1df89ef138b(a)g21g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> > > > On Aug 1, 5:14 am, "carole" <hubbca2...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> > > > > "Jan Drew" <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > >news:437e5f67-e78b-456e-8b08-4cd28628ffae(a)k19g2000yqc.googlegroups..com...
>
> > > > > > Mark Stanley Probert
> > > > > > Peter Bowditch
> > > > > > Peter B
> > > > > > Peter Moran
> > > > > > Martin Rady
> > > > > > Bob Officer
> > > > > > Andrew Kingoff
> > > > > > DC Sessions
> > > > > > Ken Flakey
> > > > > > Steelclaws
> > > > > > Happy Oyster
>
> > > > > The problem Jan, with these poor demented sods, is that they can't think
> > > > > in
> > > > > terms of conspiracies.
>
> > > > Wrong. I believe that you, Jan, and David are part of BigQuack, the
> > > > secret society of altie nut cases that promote quackery.
> > > > =======================
>
> > > > And I believe that you and all the conventional mob haven't really got a
> > > > grasp of the big picture.
>
> > > I used to watch "The Big Picture" on TV in the 1950's.
>
> > > I do have an excellent grasp of the "Big Picture" because I think, use
> > > logic, do research, and have a sound education in the sciences.
>
> > Now that show was priceless!! I laughed and shock my head
> > even as a kid, when it had
> > a show on above ground nuclear bomb testing. Troops around
> > the blast!!
>
> We used to watch them live on The Today show, with Dave Garroway.
>
>  And a car wash for folks who had happened to travel
>
> > thru the fallout area. Of course, they didn't mention the
> > fall out hot spots spread all the way to New York and
> > the related milk contamination.
>
> Not during the show, but, at other times they mentioned Strontium 90,
> which Carole thinks is a nutrient.
>
> > Though I think they had a shows on the healthfulness
> > of diary products, cranberries, and hot dogs, lol.
> > It as all about what the government wanted the public
> > to think. Your parents tax dollars at work.
>
> > And of course my childhood rock set had both galena
> > (shiny lead source) and uranium. One has got
> > to "love" the 50's and early 60's. And the "Green
> > Run" lasted to the early 70's......................Trig
>
> I received a kit entitled "Asbestos-The Magic Mineral" from the
> Canadian Asbestos Board (or something like that) and did a 'show and
> tell' in class.
>
> http://archives.cbc.ca/health/public_health/topics/608/

That proves you lied back in 2004.
>
> > Or as someone said one watches the "Big Picture"
> > 'to know what your enemies want you think.'-
>
> I also watched Library Lions. Do you recal lthat show?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

From: Jan Drew on
On Aug 10, 11:25 am, Mark STANLEY Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Aug 10, 2:20 am, "trigonometry1...(a)gmail.com |"
>
>
>
>
>
> <trigonometry1...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Aug 4, 8:20 am, Mark Probert-Drew <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 3, 5:03 am, "carole" <hubbca2...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> > > > "Mark Probert-Drew" <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > > >news:b9f516f9-55cc-46e9-9fef-d1df89ef138b(a)g21g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> > > > On Aug 1, 5:14 am, "carole" <hubbca2...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> > > > > "Jan Drew" <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > >news:437e5f67-e78b-456e-8b08-4cd28628ffae(a)k19g2000yqc.googlegroups..com...
>
> > > > > > Mark Stanley Probert
> > > > > > Peter Bowditch
> > > > > > Peter B
> > > > > > Peter Moran
> > > > > > Martin Rady
> > > > > > Bob Officer
> > > > > > Andrew Kingoff
> > > > > > DC Sessions
> > > > > > Ken Flakey
> > > > > > Steelclaws
> > > > > > Happy Oyster
>
> > > > > The problem Jan, with these poor demented sods, is that they can't think
> > > > > in
> > > > > terms of conspiracies.
>
> > > > Wrong. I believe that you, Jan, and David are part of BigQuack, the
> > > > secret society of altie nut cases that promote quackery.
> > > > =======================
>
> > > > And I believe that you and all the conventional mob haven't really got a
> > > > grasp of the big picture.
>
> > > I used to watch "The Big Picture" on TV in the 1950's.
>
> > > I do have an excellent grasp of the "Big Picture" because I think, use
> > > logic, do research, and have a sound education in the sciences.
>
> > Now that show was priceless!! I laughed and shock my head
> > even as a kid, when it had
> > a show on above ground nuclear bomb testing. Troops around
> > the blast!!
>
> We used to watch them live on The Today show, with Dave Garroway.
>
>  And a car wash for folks who had happened to travel
>
> > thru the fallout area. Of course, they didn't mention the
> > fall out hot spots spread all the way to New York and
> > the related milk contamination.
>
> Not during the show, but, at other times they mentioned Strontium 90,
> which Carole thinks is a nutrient.
>
> > Though I think they had a shows on the healthfulness
> > of diary products, cranberries, and hot dogs, lol.
> > It as all about what the government wanted the public
> > to think. Your parents tax dollars at work.
>
> > And of course my childhood rock set had both galena
> > (shiny lead source) and uranium. One has got
> > to "love" the 50's and early 60's. And the "Green
> > Run" lasted to the early 70's......................Trig
>
> I received a kit entitled "Asbestos-The Magic Mineral" from the
> Canadian Asbestos Board (or something like that) and did a 'show and
> tell' in class.
>
> http://archives.cbc.ca/health/public_health/topics/608/

That proves you lied back in 2004.
>
> > Or as someone said one watches the "Big Picture"
> > 'to know what your enemies want you think.'-
>
> I also watched Library Lions. Do you recal lthat show?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

From: Jan Drew on
On Aug 10, 11:25 am, Mark STANLEY Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Aug 10, 2:20 am, "trigonometry1...(a)gmail.com |"
>
>
>
>
>
> <trigonometry1...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Aug 4, 8:20 am, Mark Probert-Drew <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 3, 5:03 am, "carole" <hubbca2...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> > > > "Mark Probert-Drew" <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > > >news:b9f516f9-55cc-46e9-9fef-d1df89ef138b(a)g21g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> > > > On Aug 1, 5:14 am, "carole" <hubbca2...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> > > > > "Jan Drew" <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > >news:437e5f67-e78b-456e-8b08-4cd28628ffae(a)k19g2000yqc.googlegroups..com...
>
> > > > > > Mark Stanley Probert
> > > > > > Peter Bowditch
> > > > > > Peter B
> > > > > > Peter Moran
> > > > > > Martin Rady
> > > > > > Bob Officer
> > > > > > Andrew Kingoff
> > > > > > DC Sessions
> > > > > > Ken Flakey
> > > > > > Steelclaws
> > > > > > Happy Oyster
>
> > > > > The problem Jan, with these poor demented sods, is that they can't think
> > > > > in
> > > > > terms of conspiracies.
>
> > > > Wrong. I believe that you, Jan, and David are part of BigQuack, the
> > > > secret society of altie nut cases that promote quackery.
> > > > =======================
>
> > > > And I believe that you and all the conventional mob haven't really got a
> > > > grasp of the big picture.
>
> > > I used to watch "The Big Picture" on TV in the 1950's.
>
> > > I do have an excellent grasp of the "Big Picture" because I think, use
> > > logic, do research, and have a sound education in the sciences.
>
> > Now that show was priceless!! I laughed and shock my head
> > even as a kid, when it had
> > a show on above ground nuclear bomb testing. Troops around
> > the blast!!
>
> We used to watch them live on The Today show, with Dave Garroway.
>
>  And a car wash for folks who had happened to travel
>
> > thru the fallout area. Of course, they didn't mention the
> > fall out hot spots spread all the way to New York and
> > the related milk contamination.
>
> Not during the show, but, at other times they mentioned Strontium 90,
> which Carole thinks is a nutrient.
>
> > Though I think they had a shows on the healthfulness
> > of diary products, cranberries, and hot dogs, lol.
> > It as all about what the government wanted the public
> > to think. Your parents tax dollars at work.
>
> > And of course my childhood rock set had both galena
> > (shiny lead source) and uranium. One has got
> > to "love" the 50's and early 60's. And the "Green
> > Run" lasted to the early 70's......................Trig
>
> I received a kit entitled "Asbestos-The Magic Mineral" from the
> Canadian Asbestos Board (or something like that) and did a 'show and
> tell' in class.
>
> http://archives.cbc.ca/health/public_health/topics/608/
>
> > Or as someone said one watches the "Big Picture"
> > 'to know what your enemies want you think.'-
>
> I also watched Library Lions. Do you recal lthat show?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Whatever *recal l is................................