From: john on
Swine flu vaccine caused deaths

18 May 2010

http://theforeigner.no/pages/news/swine-flu-vaccine-caused-deaths/

Ten people in Norway have died as a result of last year's mass vaccination
programme against the swine flu (Influenza A H1N1).

According to figures released by the Norwegian Medicines Agency (Statens
legemiddelverk), the Pandemrix vaccine also accounted for 801 reported
incidents of side-effects. Health authorities considered 201 of these cases
to be severe.

Amongst other symptoms, patients experienced severe allergic reactions and
cramps. But perhaps the most serious were those who suffered from
Guillain-Barr� syndrome, causing gradual ascending paralysis up the legs. It
can also affect the arms and upper body, and at worst can paralyze the
breathing muscles.

The vaccine also affected pregnant women and children. There were 16
reported cases of abortions, fetal death, or stillbirth. And 58 children
were hospitalized for observation due to fainting, fever, fatigue, loss of
appetite, and dehydration.

Approximately two million people were vaccinated against swine flu last
year, and the agency says it's investigating every incident.


From: dr_jeff on
john wrote:
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Well, the paper repeatedly referred to the flu as "swine flu," rather
than H1N1, the official name of the virus. In addition, the info was
translated from Norwegian by some second-rate newspaper trying to make
money selling ads. This has a very low reliability. For all we know, the
press release from the Norwegian Medicines Agency may have actually
released a press release just saying the deaths are under investigation.

The article doesn't explain why they found GBS in people who recieved
the vaccine in Norway, but none in people who got the vaccine outside
Norway. That makes me think the original press release was about
unverified reports, not proven side effects. That's a big difference.

Jeff
From: Jan Drew on
John posted;

Swine flu vaccine caused deaths

18 May 2010


http://theforeigner.no/pages/news/swine-flu-vaccine-caused-deaths/


Ten people in Norway have died as a result of last year's mass
vaccination
programme against the swine flu (Influenza A H1N1).


According to figures released by the Norwegian Medicines Agency
(Statens
legemiddelverk), the Pandemrix vaccine also accounted for 801
reported
incidents of side-effects. Health authorities considered 201 of these
cases
to be severe.


Amongst other symptoms, patients experienced severe allergic reactions
and
cramps. But perhaps the most serious were those who suffered from
Guillain-Barr� syndrome, causing gradual ascending paralysis up the
legs. It
can also affect the arms and upper body, and at worst can paralyze
the
breathing muscles.


The vaccine also affected pregnant women and children. There were 16
reported cases of abortions, fetal death, or stillbirth. And 58
children
were hospitalized for observation due to fainting, fever, fatigue,
loss of
appetite, and dehydration.


Approximately two million people were vaccinated against swine flu
last
year, and the agency says it's investigating every incident.



From: dr_jeff on
Jan Drew wrote:
> John posted;
>

<copyrighted material deleted>

Yeah, we know what he posted. It is still illegal to post copyrighted
material on the newsgroups.

Did you see the copyright at the bottom of the page of the newspaper? Id
did. However, any material is copyrighted automatically, unless it is
from the federal government. No copyright message needed.

Jeff
From: bae on
In article <x5edncMNSs4bEWnWnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d(a)giganews.com>,
dr_jeff <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote:
>john wrote:
><copyrighted material deleted>
>
>Well, the paper repeatedly referred to the flu as "swine flu," rather
>than H1N1, the official name of the virus. In addition, the info was
>translated from Norwegian by some second-rate newspaper trying to make
>money selling ads. This has a very low reliability. For all we know, the
>press release from the Norwegian Medicines Agency may have actually
>released a press release just saying the deaths are under investigation.
>
>The article doesn't explain why they found GBS in people who recieved
>the vaccine in Norway, but none in people who got the vaccine outside
>Norway. That makes me think the original press release was about
>unverified reports, not proven side effects. That's a big difference.

One might also wonder how many people died of the flu itself, and how
many more might have died had 2 million people in Norway not been
vaccinated. H1N1, unlike seasonal flu, was hospitalizing and killing
otherwise healthy children and young adults, especially pregnant women.
Thousands of young people died in developed countries before the vaccine
became available in mid-autumn and the pandemic came to a fairly abrupt halt.