From: john on
"...That's right. Kathleen Sebelius, the President of the HHS, has asked
newspapers, magazines, television journalists, who knows who else-
specifically NOT to listen to parents and scientists in the autism
community, not to respect their concerns, not to take seriously the
condition of chronically ill children with autism and to disregard a growing
body of evidence questioning the safety of our infant and toddler's
immunization schedule..."

Sebelius Asks Media to Censor Autism Debate

By Katie Wright

http://www.ageofautism.com/2010/03/sebelius-asks-media-to-censor-autism-debate.html


By Katie Wright

"There are groups out there that insist that vaccines are responsible for a
variety of problems, despite all scientific evidence to the contrary. We
(the office of Secretary of Health and Human Services) have reached out to
media outlets to try to get them not to give the views of these people equal
weight in their reporting."

That's right. Kathleen Sebelius, the Secretary of HHS, has asked newspapers,
magazines, television journalists, who knows who else- specifically NOT to
listen to parents and scientists in the autism community, not to respect
their concerns, not to take seriously the condition of chronically ill
children with autism and to disregard a growing body of evidence questioning
the safety of our infant and toddlers' immunization schedule. If I have got
anything wrong I would love to hear a tape or see a transcripts of these
media "outreaches."

Pretty frightening stuff. Thank you to Jake Crosby who uncovered this frank
and disturbing exchange between Arthur (autism is not so bad and there is no
increase anyway) Allen and Ms. Sebelius.

I am taking Ms. Sebelius at her word. Ms. Sebelius has unilaterally said
that she knows that every single American parent who saw their child regress
post vaccination or experience a severe adverse reaction is wrong and she
knows better. Ms. Sebelius has ordered, suggested, beseeched, implored (?)
American journalists NOT to "give these people (anyone concerned with
vaccine safety) equal weight in their reporting" because she has decided by
informal governmental decree that the debate is closed?

Sounds like something that would happen in a communist dictatorship, right?
Was there a similar decree when "citizen dissidents" questioned the safety
of hormone replacement therapy for women? Was the media instructed to ignore
those nuisances who were suspicious of a long denied link between hormone
therapy and breast cancer? Did the HHS order a first amendment crackdown of
those trouble-making women who had long complained that Fibromalgia was a
real disease and not a psychosomatic condition. Menaces everywhere who dared
to question medical authorities! They must be silenced! You have got to be
kidding.


Sebelius boasts that she holds an H1N1 meeting every single day but cannot
find the time to attend one IACC meeting or meet with any autism
organizations. Well, not exactly, apparently Ms. Sebelius is personal
friends with Ms. Alison Singer, leader a vaccine marketing/ autism org
financed in part by Dr. Paul Offit. Newsflash Ms. Seblius: 1 in 100 American
children, and rising, have autism and this is a much bigger deal than H1N1.
One in four American parents do not think vaccines are safe for their
children. At least half of all families affected by autism believe too many
vaccines too soon triggered their child's autism. Hundreds of thousands of
parents saw their child regress post multiple vaccinations. Sebelius' answer
to this massive crisis of confidence is media censorship?
Hmmmm...Censorship has a long and illustrious history- of not working.
Thankfully, we live in a democracy with a free press. So I don't know what
is worse, the fact Sebelius asked that journalists censor the autism debate
or the fact that they did.

While I have not read more than a few reasoned, balanced or well written
pieces of journalism on the subject of autism and vaccines I have read a
host of spoon fed press releases masquerading as "news" stories about
supposedly important autism research. Journalists from "Time", "Newsweek",
"The New York Times", online health resources etc. have reported in depth on
such "breakthroughs" as a recent study concluding that "maternal
sensitivity" is a good thing for autistic children, or Kennedy Krieger's
incredible finding that autistic kids have bad handwriting (amazing, I
know!) or the Children's Hospital of Boston study which found that cousins
from the Middle East who marry are more likely to produce autistic kids. I
know, stop the presses, a cure is within sight!
In this embarrassing interview with Arthur Allen Ms. Sebelius asserts all
the science is a closed book. At the top of the list of the science of
vaccine safety studies are the definitive 2001 and 2003 "Pediatrics"
articles. While the media has kept us front row center in the breaking
developments regarding ASD kids with bad handwriting, journalists have
neglected to report on perhaps one of the most striking recent events
concerning the subject of autism research.

An author of one of the most frequently cited "vaccines do not trigger
autism" articles is Dr. Poul Thorsen. Well, well, well. this week we learned
that Thorsen has allegedly absconded with approximately $2 million of CDC
research money and is the target of an international police manhunt. We also
learned that the Univ. of Aarhus, Denmark, where Thorsen was employed when
conducting the studies (naturally in close cooperation w/ the CDC) has
released a letter detailing Thorsen's recently uncovered crimes. These
crimes include but are not limited to: theft, forgery and assorted serious
breaches of ethical norms.

Apparently Thorsen was a very, very busy scientist. He was simultaneously
and secretly employed at the Univ of Aarhus, Emory University, Drexel
University and as a "visiting scientist at the CDC." Emory and Drexel have,
some might say, inappropriately close relationships with the CDC. There
appears to be very little room for independent or unbiased science at these
research centers. All three are heavily invested in denying any
relationships between vaccines and autism. The CDC owns numerous vaccine
patents and Emory and Drexel receive tremendous financial support from
vaccine companies.

Hmmmm.I know some of you might be thinking "Emory University is in the news
a lot lately!" Yes, Emory has been in the news a great deal thanks to the
amazing anti- corruption work of Senator Charles Grassley. Ms. Sebelius
should dump Arthur Allen and have a conversation with someone who is
actually doing something to restore public confidence in our health systems
by fighting the fraud and greed inherent at places like Emory. Grassley is
conducting an investigation a pervasive pattern of corruption among Emory
researchers who fail to disclose significant financial conflicts of interest
in the outcomes of the research they conduct. Isn't it interesting that
Thorsen found a second home there?

Thorsen was working hard for everyone's benefit: his own, his employers,
pharmaceutical companies- everyone's benefit, that is, except the public's.
The health and safety of American kids being administered the world's most
aggressive infant vaccine schedule was last on his list. Thorsen was also
employed as a consultant on the official revisions of the all-important DMS
V. Thorsen was advising how to count and classify autism cases. It is
absolutely frightening that a wanted felon has such an enormous and
pervasive influence on the lives of our children.

So I am trying to get this straight Ms. Sebelius. Help me out here. We
should take lying thieves with no interest in operating in the public's
interest at their word but the media should ignore parents and legitimate
scientists who question the validity of vaccine science research performed
by alleged criminals? I'm really confused!

Wouldn't it be great if Sebelius lifted her fatwa on vaccine research
reporting and someone discovered what this creep Thorsen was actually up to
at Drexel and Emory? Why was Thorsen a "visiting scientist at the CDC" at
the same time? Apparently the CDC has known about this theft (of our money)
for some time but has chosen to remain silent. I wonder why? How likely is
it that Thorsen was the only scientist involved in what appears to be a
massive and long term scheme to manipulate and forge scientific documents?
Most importantly, why should the public believe that a thief and a liar with
no ethical standards would be honest and scrupulous in his research? I
shudder at the thought of Thorsen recounting "the facts" of his studies to
students while asserting, as he frequently did, that "absolutely no more
vaccine/autism research is warranted." Now there's a guarantee you can take
to the bank. Oops, maybe a bank Thorsen hasn't robbed.

Katie Wright is a Contributing Editor for Age of Autism.


______
















From: Happy Oyster on
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:21:47 -0000, "john" <nospam(a)bt.com> wrote:

>"...That's right. Kathleen Sebelius, the President of the HHS, has asked
>newspapers, magazines, television journalists, who knows who else-
>specifically NOT to listen to parents and scientists in the autism
>community, not to respect their concerns, not to take seriously the
>condition of chronically ill children with autism and to disregard a growing
>body of evidence questioning the safety of our infant and toddler's
>immunization schedule..."
>
>Sebelius Asks Media to Censor Autism Debate
>
>By Katie Wright
>

That is insane bullshit. And a lot of lies.


But as you insist to spread lies, here is a original press release from the HHS:

<quote>
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Tuesday, March 2, 2010

Media Inquiries:
Shelly Burgess
301-796-4651
Consumer Inquiries: 888-INFO-FDA
FDA Issues Final Guidance to Boost Development of Cell-based Viral Vaccines

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration today issued final guidance to help
manufacturers who are developing safe and effective cell-based viral vaccines to
address emerging and pandemic threats.

Titled "Guidance for Industry: Characterization and Qualification of Cell
Substrates
and Other Biological Materials Used in the Production of Viral Vaccines for
Infectious Disease Indications," the document will aid manufacturers who wish to
use
new cell substrates for vaccine production, such as for influenza vaccines.
Currently, all licensed influenza vaccines are produced in chicken eggs.

"The development of safe and effective vaccines is critical toward protecting
Americans against an influenza pandemic," said HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius.
"This final guidance recognizes that a new generation of medical products using
innovative methods is needed to ensure we are better prepared today than we were
yesterday."

FDA scientists spent more than a decade conducting the research required for
the
document, as well as consulting with other scientists, the vaccine industry and
the
public on it. In addition to providing advice to manufacturers about the
scientific
principles of cell substrate development, the guidance describes tests that may
be
used to evaluate cell substrates intended for use in viral vaccine production.

"The availability of this final guidance is an important tool to help
manufacturers
advance the development and production of cell-based vaccines against infectious
diseases," FDA Commissioner Margaret Hamburg, M.D. "This may lead to additional
vaccine options, including for pandemic influenza vaccines."

Cell cultures are now used to produce licensed vaccines that help protect
against
diseases such as rubella and polio. Today's guidance outlines the best practices
using current and emerging science to safely expand the types of cells that may
be
used to produce vaccines.

The guidance supplements recommendations on the production of viral vaccines for
the
prevention and treatment of infectious diseases provided in International
Conference
on Harmonization (ICH) documents Q5A and Q5. The FDA published the new guidance
document in draft form and sought comments from the public in September 2006.
The
FDA received a number of scientific comments and revised the guidance as
warranted
based upon those comments.


###


Note: All HHS press releases, fact sheets and other press materials are
available at
http://www.hhs.gov/news
</quote>


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From: Mark Probert on
On Mar 16, 5:21 pm, "john" <nos...(a)bt.com> wrote:
> "...That's right. Kathleen Sebelius, the President of the HHS, has asked
> newspapers, magazines, television journalists, who knows who else-
> specifically NOT to listen to parents and scientists in the autism
> community, not to respect their concerns, not to take seriously the
> condition of chronically ill children with autism and to disregard a growing
> body of evidence questioning the safety of our infant and toddler's
> immunization schedule..."
>
> Sebelius Asks Media to Censor Autism Debate
>
> By Katie Wright
>
> http://www.ageofautism.com/2010/03/sebelius-asks-media-to-censor-auti...
>
> By Katie Wright
>
> "There are groups out there that insist that vaccines are responsible for a
> variety of problems, despite all scientific evidence to the contrary. We
> (the office of Secretary of Health and Human Services) have reached out to
> media outlets to try to get them not to give the views of these people equal
> weight in their reporting."
>
> That's right. Kathleen Sebelius, the Secretary of HHS, has asked newspapers,
> magazines, television journalists, who knows who else- specifically NOT to
> listen to parents and scientists in the autism community, not to respect
> their concerns, not to take seriously the condition of chronically ill
> children with autism and to disregard a growing body of evidence questioning
> the safety of our infant and toddlers' immunization schedule. If I have got
> anything wrong I would love to hear a tape or see a transcripts of these
> media "outreaches."
>
> Pretty frightening stuff. Thank you to Jake Crosby who uncovered this frank
> and disturbing exchange between Arthur (autism is not so bad and there is no
> increase anyway) Allen and Ms. Sebelius.
>
> I am taking Ms. Sebelius at her word. Ms. Sebelius has unilaterally said
> that she knows that every single American parent who saw their child regress
> post vaccination or experience a severe adverse reaction is wrong and she
> knows better. Ms. Sebelius has ordered, suggested, beseeched, implored (?)
> American journalists NOT to "give these people (anyone concerned with
> vaccine safety) equal weight in their reporting" because she has decided by
> informal governmental decree that the debate is closed?
>
> Sounds like something that would happen in a communist dictatorship, right?
> Was there a similar decree when "citizen dissidents" questioned the safety
> of hormone replacement therapy for women? Was the media instructed to ignore
> those nuisances who were suspicious of a long denied link between hormone
> therapy and breast cancer? Did the HHS order a first amendment crackdown of
> those trouble-making women who had long complained that Fibromalgia was a
> real disease and not a psychosomatic condition. Menaces everywhere who dared
> to question medical authorities! They must be silenced! You have got to be
> kidding.
>
> Sebelius boasts that she holds an H1N1 meeting every single day but cannot
> find the time to attend one IACC meeting or meet with any autism
> organizations. Well, not exactly, apparently Ms. Sebelius is personal
> friends with Ms. Alison Singer, leader a vaccine marketing/ autism org
> financed in part by Dr. Paul Offit. Newsflash Ms. Seblius: 1 in 100 American
> children, and rising, have autism and this is a much bigger deal than H1N1.
> One in four American parents do not think vaccines are safe for their
> children.  At least half of all families affected by autism believe too many
> vaccines too soon triggered their child's autism.  Hundreds of thousands of
> parents saw their child regress post multiple vaccinations. Sebelius' answer
> to this massive crisis of confidence is media censorship?
> Hmmmm...Censorship has a long and illustrious history- of not working.
> Thankfully, we live in a democracy with a free press. So I don't know what
> is worse, the fact Sebelius asked that journalists censor the autism debate
> or the fact that they did.
>
> While I have not read more than a few reasoned, balanced or well written
> pieces of journalism on the subject of autism and vaccines I have read a
> host of spoon fed press releases masquerading as "news" stories about
> supposedly important autism research. Journalists from "Time", "Newsweek",
> "The New York Times", online health resources etc. have reported in depth on
> such "breakthroughs" as a recent study concluding that "maternal
>  sensitivity" is a good thing for autistic children, or Kennedy Krieger's
> incredible finding that autistic kids have bad handwriting (amazing, I
> know!) or the Children's Hospital of Boston study which found that cousins
> from the Middle East who marry are more likely to produce autistic kids. I
> know, stop the presses, a cure is within sight!
> In this embarrassing interview with Arthur Allen Ms. Sebelius asserts all
> the science  is a closed book. At the top of the list of the science of
> vaccine safety studies are the definitive 2001 and 2003 "Pediatrics"
> articles. While the media has kept us front row center in the breaking
> developments regarding ASD kids with bad handwriting, journalists have
> neglected to report on perhaps one of the most striking recent events
> concerning the subject of autism research.
>
> An author of one of the most frequently cited "vaccines do not trigger
> autism" articles is Dr. Poul Thorsen. Well, well, well. this week we learned
> that Thorsen has allegedly absconded with approximately $2 million of CDC
> research money and is the target of an international police manhunt. We also
> learned that the Univ. of Aarhus, Denmark, where Thorsen was employed when
> conducting the studies (naturally in close cooperation w/ the CDC) has
> released a letter detailing Thorsen's recently uncovered crimes. These
> crimes include but are not limited to: theft, forgery and assorted serious
> breaches of ethical norms.
>
> Apparently Thorsen was a very, very busy scientist. He was simultaneously
> and secretly employed at the Univ of Aarhus, Emory University, Drexel
> University and as a "visiting scientist at the CDC." Emory and Drexel have,
> some might say, inappropriately close relationships with the CDC. There
> appears to be very little room for independent or unbiased science at these
> research centers. All three are heavily invested in denying any
> relationships between vaccines and autism. The CDC owns numerous vaccine
> patents and Emory and Drexel receive tremendous financial support from
> vaccine companies.
>
> Hmmmm.I know some of you might be thinking "Emory University is in the news
> a lot lately!" Yes, Emory has been in the news a great deal thanks to the
> amazing anti- corruption work of Senator Charles Grassley. Ms. Sebelius
> should dump Arthur Allen and have a conversation with someone who is
> actually doing something to restore public confidence in our health systems
> by fighting the fraud and greed inherent at places like Emory. Grassley is
> conducting an investigation a pervasive pattern of corruption among Emory
> researchers who fail to disclose significant financial conflicts of interest
> in the outcomes of the research they conduct. Isn't it interesting that
> Thorsen found a second home there?
>
> Thorsen was working hard for everyone's benefit: his own, his employers,
> pharmaceutical companies- everyone's benefit, that is, except the public's.
> The health and safety of American kids being administered the world's most
> aggressive infant vaccine schedule was last on his list. Thorsen was also
> employed as a consultant on the official revisions of the all-important DMS
> V. Thorsen was advising how to count and classify autism cases. It is
> absolutely frightening that a wanted felon has such an enormous and
> pervasive influence on the lives of our children.
>
> So I am trying to get this straight Ms. Sebelius. Help me out here. We
> should take lying thieves with no interest in operating in the public's
> interest at their word but the media should ignore parents and legitimate
> scientists who question the validity of vaccine science research performed
> by alleged criminals? I'm really confused!
>
> Wouldn't it be great if Sebelius lifted her fatwa on vaccine research
> reporting and someone discovered what this creep Thorsen was actually up to
> at Drexel and Emory?  Why was Thorsen a "visiting scientist at the CDC" at
> the same time? Apparently the CDC has known about this theft  (of our money)
> for some time but has chosen to remain silent. I wonder why? How likely is
> it that Thorsen was the only scientist involved in what appears to be a
> massive and long term scheme to manipulate and forge scientific documents?
> Most importantly, why should the public believe that a thief and a liar with
> no ethical standards would be honest and scrupulous in his research? I
> shudder at the thought of Thorsen recounting "the facts" of his studies to
> students while asserting, as he frequently did, that "absolutely no more
> vaccine/autism research is warranted." Now there's a guarantee you can take
> to the bank. Oops, maybe a bank Thorsen hasn't robbed.
>
> Katie Wright is a Contributing Editor for Age of Autism.
>
> ______

Ms. WRONG has a serious reading comprehension problem. This yarn is
taken from a Readers Digest article by Arthur Allen, who is certainly
diametrically the opposite of Mr. Allen on the issue of vaccines. Mr.
Allen quotes:

"We have reached out to media outlets to try to get them to not give
the views of these people equal weight in their reporting to what
science has shown and continues to show about the safety of vaccines."

http://www.rd.com/health-slideshows/h1n1-the-report-card/article174741-1.html

These is NO call for censorship or anything else Katie WRONG whines
about. Madame Secretary is correctly pointing out that the views of
the anti-vaxxers arenot supported by sceince or facts. Thus, they
should not be given equal weight.

I see nothing wrong with that. It is akin to having to give equal
weight to flat-earthers, moon-landing hoaxers, Holocausr deniers and
9/11 truthers.

From: Lefty on
Mark Probert wrote:
> On Mar 16, 5:21 pm, "john" <nos...(a)bt.com> wrote:
>> "...That's right. Kathleen Sebelius, the President of the HHS, has asked
>> newspapers, magazines, television journalists, who knows who else-
>> specifically NOT to listen to parents and scientists in the autism
>> community, not to respect their concerns, not to take seriously the
>> condition of chronically ill children with autism and to disregard a growing
>> body of evidence questioning the safety of our infant and toddler's
>> immunization schedule..."
>>
>> Sebelius Asks Media to Censor Autism Debate
>>
>> By Katie Wright
>>
>> http://www.ageofautism.com/2010/03/sebelius-asks-media-to-censor-auti...
>>
>> By Katie Wright
>>
>> "There are groups out there that insist that vaccines are responsible for a
>> variety of problems, despite all scientific evidence to the contrary. We
>> (the office of Secretary of Health and Human Services) have reached out to
>> media outlets to try to get them not to give the views of these people equal
>> weight in their reporting."
>>
>> That's right. Kathleen Sebelius, the Secretary of HHS, has asked newspapers,
>> magazines, television journalists, who knows who else- specifically NOT to
>> listen to parents and scientists in the autism community, not to respect
>> their concerns, not to take seriously the condition of chronically ill
>> children with autism and to disregard a growing body of evidence questioning
>> the safety of our infant and toddlers' immunization schedule. If I have got
>> anything wrong I would love to hear a tape or see a transcripts of these
>> media "outreaches."
>>
>> Pretty frightening stuff. Thank you to Jake Crosby who uncovered this frank
>> and disturbing exchange between Arthur (autism is not so bad and there is no
>> increase anyway) Allen and Ms. Sebelius.
>>
>> I am taking Ms. Sebelius at her word. Ms. Sebelius has unilaterally said
>> that she knows that every single American parent who saw their child regress
>> post vaccination or experience a severe adverse reaction is wrong and she
>> knows better. Ms. Sebelius has ordered, suggested, beseeched, implored (?)
>> American journalists NOT to "give these people (anyone concerned with
>> vaccine safety) equal weight in their reporting" because she has decided by
>> informal governmental decree that the debate is closed?
>>
>> Sounds like something that would happen in a communist dictatorship, right?
>> Was there a similar decree when "citizen dissidents" questioned the safety
>> of hormone replacement therapy for women? Was the media instructed to ignore
>> those nuisances who were suspicious of a long denied link between hormone
>> therapy and breast cancer? Did the HHS order a first amendment crackdown of
>> those trouble-making women who had long complained that Fibromalgia was a
>> real disease and not a psychosomatic condition. Menaces everywhere who dared
>> to question medical authorities! They must be silenced! You have got to be
>> kidding.
>>
>> Sebelius boasts that she holds an H1N1 meeting every single day but cannot
>> find the time to attend one IACC meeting or meet with any autism
>> organizations. Well, not exactly, apparently Ms. Sebelius is personal
>> friends with Ms. Alison Singer, leader a vaccine marketing/ autism org
>> financed in part by Dr. Paul Offit. Newsflash Ms. Seblius: 1 in 100 American
>> children, and rising, have autism and this is a much bigger deal than H1N1.
>> One in four American parents do not think vaccines are safe for their
>> children. At least half of all families affected by autism believe too many
>> vaccines too soon triggered their child's autism. Hundreds of thousands of
>> parents saw their child regress post multiple vaccinations. Sebelius' answer
>> to this massive crisis of confidence is media censorship?
>> Hmmmm...Censorship has a long and illustrious history- of not working.
>> Thankfully, we live in a democracy with a free press. So I don't know what
>> is worse, the fact Sebelius asked that journalists censor the autism debate
>> or the fact that they did.
>>
>> While I have not read more than a few reasoned, balanced or well written
>> pieces of journalism on the subject of autism and vaccines I have read a
>> host of spoon fed press releases masquerading as "news" stories about
>> supposedly important autism research. Journalists from "Time", "Newsweek",
>> "The New York Times", online health resources etc. have reported in depth on
>> such "breakthroughs" as a recent study concluding that "maternal
>> sensitivity" is a good thing for autistic children, or Kennedy Krieger's
>> incredible finding that autistic kids have bad handwriting (amazing, I
>> know!) or the Children's Hospital of Boston study which found that cousins
>> from the Middle East who marry are more likely to produce autistic kids. I
>> know, stop the presses, a cure is within sight!
>> In this embarrassing interview with Arthur Allen Ms. Sebelius asserts all
>> the science is a closed book. At the top of the list of the science of
>> vaccine safety studies are the definitive 2001 and 2003 "Pediatrics"
>> articles. While the media has kept us front row center in the breaking
>> developments regarding ASD kids with bad handwriting, journalists have
>> neglected to report on perhaps one of the most striking recent events
>> concerning the subject of autism research.
>>
>> An author of one of the most frequently cited "vaccines do not trigger
>> autism" articles is Dr. Poul Thorsen. Well, well, well. this week we learned
>> that Thorsen has allegedly absconded with approximately $2 million of CDC
>> research money and is the target of an international police manhunt. We also
>> learned that the Univ. of Aarhus, Denmark, where Thorsen was employed when
>> conducting the studies (naturally in close cooperation w/ the CDC) has
>> released a letter detailing Thorsen's recently uncovered crimes. These
>> crimes include but are not limited to: theft, forgery and assorted serious
>> breaches of ethical norms.
>>
>> Apparently Thorsen was a very, very busy scientist. He was simultaneously
>> and secretly employed at the Univ of Aarhus, Emory University, Drexel
>> University and as a "visiting scientist at the CDC." Emory and Drexel have,
>> some might say, inappropriately close relationships with the CDC. There
>> appears to be very little room for independent or unbiased science at these
>> research centers. All three are heavily invested in denying any
>> relationships between vaccines and autism. The CDC owns numerous vaccine
>> patents and Emory and Drexel receive tremendous financial support from
>> vaccine companies.
>>
>> Hmmmm.I know some of you might be thinking "Emory University is in the news
>> a lot lately!" Yes, Emory has been in the news a great deal thanks to the
>> amazing anti- corruption work of Senator Charles Grassley. Ms. Sebelius
>> should dump Arthur Allen and have a conversation with someone who is
>> actually doing something to restore public confidence in our health systems
>> by fighting the fraud and greed inherent at places like Emory. Grassley is
>> conducting an investigation a pervasive pattern of corruption among Emory
>> researchers who fail to disclose significant financial conflicts of interest
>> in the outcomes of the research they conduct. Isn't it interesting that
>> Thorsen found a second home there?
>>
>> Thorsen was working hard for everyone's benefit: his own, his employers,
>> pharmaceutical companies- everyone's benefit, that is, except the public's.
>> The health and safety of American kids being administered the world's most
>> aggressive infant vaccine schedule was last on his list. Thorsen was also
>> employed as a consultant on the official revisions of the all-important DMS
>> V. Thorsen was advising how to count and classify autism cases. It is
>> absolutely frightening that a wanted felon has such an enormous and
>> pervasive influence on the lives of our children.
>>
>> So I am trying to get this straight Ms. Sebelius. Help me out here. We
>> should take lying thieves with no interest in operating in the public's
>> interest at their word but the media should ignore parents and legitimate
>> scientists who question the validity of vaccine science research performed
>> by alleged criminals? I'm really confused!
>>
>> Wouldn't it be great if Sebelius lifted her fatwa on vaccine research
>> reporting and someone discovered what this creep Thorsen was actually up to
>> at Drexel and Emory? Why was Thorsen a "visiting scientist at the CDC" at
>> the same time? Apparently the CDC has known about this theft (of our money)
>> for some time but has chosen to remain silent. I wonder why? How likely is
>> it that Thorsen was the only scientist involved in what appears to be a
>> massive and long term scheme to manipulate and forge scientific documents?
>> Most importantly, why should the public believe that a thief and a liar with
>> no ethical standards would be honest and scrupulous in his research? I
>> shudder at the thought of Thorsen recounting "the facts" of his studies to
>> students while asserting, as he frequently did, that "absolutely no more
>> vaccine/autism research is warranted." Now there's a guarantee you can take
>> to the bank. Oops, maybe a bank Thorsen hasn't robbed.
>>
>> Katie Wright is a Contributing Editor for Age of Autism.
>>
>> ______
>
> Ms. WRONG has a serious reading comprehension problem. This yarn is
> taken from a Readers Digest article by Arthur Allen, who is certainly
> diametrically the opposite of Mr. Allen on the issue of vaccines. Mr.
> Allen quotes:
>
> "We have reached out to media outlets to try to get them to not give
> the views of these people equal weight in their reporting to what
> science has shown and continues to show about the safety of vaccines."
>
> http://www.rd.com/health-slideshows/h1n1-the-report-card/article174741-1.html
>
> These is NO call for censorship or anything else Katie WRONG whines
> about. Madame Secretary is correctly pointing out that the views of
> the anti-vaxxers arenot supported by sceince or facts. Thus, they
> should not be given equal weight.
>
> I see nothing wrong with that. It is akin to having to give equal
> weight to flat-earthers, moon-landing hoaxers, Holocausr deniers and
> 9/11 truthers.
>
You, sir, are truly part of the problem.
From: Mark Probert-Drew on
On Mar 16, 7:08 pm, Lefty <Jusle...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Mark Probert wrote:
> > On Mar 16, 5:21 pm, "john" <nos...(a)bt.com> wrote:
> >> "...That's right. Kathleen Sebelius, the President of the HHS, has asked
> >> newspapers, magazines, television journalists, who knows who else-
> >> specifically NOT to listen to parents and scientists in the autism
> >> community, not to respect their concerns, not to take seriously the
> >> condition of chronically ill children with autism and to disregard a growing
> >> body of evidence questioning the safety of our infant and toddler's
> >> immunization schedule..."
>
> >> Sebelius Asks Media to Censor Autism Debate
>
> >> By Katie Wright
>
> >>http://www.ageofautism.com/2010/03/sebelius-asks-media-to-censor-auti....
>
> >> By Katie Wright
>
> >> "There are groups out there that insist that vaccines are responsible for a
> >> variety of problems, despite all scientific evidence to the contrary. We
> >> (the office of Secretary of Health and Human Services) have reached out to
> >> media outlets to try to get them not to give the views of these people equal
> >> weight in their reporting."
>
> >> That's right. Kathleen Sebelius, the Secretary of HHS, has asked newspapers,
> >> magazines, television journalists, who knows who else- specifically NOT to
> >> listen to parents and scientists in the autism community, not to respect
> >> their concerns, not to take seriously the condition of chronically ill
> >> children with autism and to disregard a growing body of evidence questioning
> >> the safety of our infant and toddlers' immunization schedule. If I have got
> >> anything wrong I would love to hear a tape or see a transcripts of these
> >> media "outreaches."
>
> >> Pretty frightening stuff. Thank you to Jake Crosby who uncovered this frank
> >> and disturbing exchange between Arthur (autism is not so bad and there is no
> >> increase anyway) Allen and Ms. Sebelius.
>
> >> I am taking Ms. Sebelius at her word. Ms. Sebelius has unilaterally said
> >> that she knows that every single American parent who saw their child regress
> >> post vaccination or experience a severe adverse reaction is wrong and she
> >> knows better. Ms. Sebelius has ordered, suggested, beseeched, implored (?)
> >> American journalists NOT to "give these people (anyone concerned with
> >> vaccine safety) equal weight in their reporting" because she has decided by
> >> informal governmental decree that the debate is closed?
>
> >> Sounds like something that would happen in a communist dictatorship, right?
> >> Was there a similar decree when "citizen dissidents" questioned the safety
> >> of hormone replacement therapy for women? Was the media instructed to ignore
> >> those nuisances who were suspicious of a long denied link between hormone
> >> therapy and breast cancer? Did the HHS order a first amendment crackdown of
> >> those trouble-making women who had long complained that Fibromalgia was a
> >> real disease and not a psychosomatic condition. Menaces everywhere who dared
> >> to question medical authorities! They must be silenced! You have got to be
> >> kidding.
>
> >> Sebelius boasts that she holds an H1N1 meeting every single day but cannot
> >> find the time to attend one IACC meeting or meet with any autism
> >> organizations. Well, not exactly, apparently Ms. Sebelius is personal
> >> friends with Ms. Alison Singer, leader a vaccine marketing/ autism org
> >> financed in part by Dr. Paul Offit. Newsflash Ms. Seblius: 1 in 100 American
> >> children, and rising, have autism and this is a much bigger deal than H1N1.
> >> One in four American parents do not think vaccines are safe for their
> >> children.  At least half of all families affected by autism believe too many
> >> vaccines too soon triggered their child's autism.  Hundreds of thousands of
> >> parents saw their child regress post multiple vaccinations. Sebelius' answer
> >> to this massive crisis of confidence is media censorship?
> >> Hmmmm...Censorship has a long and illustrious history- of not working.
> >> Thankfully, we live in a democracy with a free press. So I don't know what
> >> is worse, the fact Sebelius asked that journalists censor the autism debate
> >> or the fact that they did.
>
> >> While I have not read more than a few reasoned, balanced or well written
> >> pieces of journalism on the subject of autism and vaccines I have read a
> >> host of spoon fed press releases masquerading as "news" stories about
> >> supposedly important autism research. Journalists from "Time", "Newsweek",
> >> "The New York Times", online health resources etc. have reported in depth on
> >> such "breakthroughs" as a recent study concluding that "maternal
> >>  sensitivity" is a good thing for autistic children, or Kennedy Krieger's
> >> incredible finding that autistic kids have bad handwriting (amazing, I
> >> know!) or the Children's Hospital of Boston study which found that cousins
> >> from the Middle East who marry are more likely to produce autistic kids. I
> >> know, stop the presses, a cure is within sight!
> >> In this embarrassing interview with Arthur Allen Ms. Sebelius asserts all
> >> the science  is a closed book. At the top of the list of the science of
> >> vaccine safety studies are the definitive 2001 and 2003 "Pediatrics"
> >> articles. While the media has kept us front row center in the breaking
> >> developments regarding ASD kids with bad handwriting, journalists have
> >> neglected to report on perhaps one of the most striking recent events
> >> concerning the subject of autism research.
>
> >> An author of one of the most frequently cited "vaccines do not trigger
> >> autism" articles is Dr. Poul Thorsen. Well, well, well. this week we learned
> >> that Thorsen has allegedly absconded with approximately $2 million of CDC
> >> research money and is the target of an international police manhunt. We also
> >> learned that the Univ. of Aarhus, Denmark, where Thorsen was employed when
> >> conducting the studies (naturally in close cooperation w/ the CDC) has
> >> released a letter detailing Thorsen's recently uncovered crimes. These
> >> crimes include but are not limited to: theft, forgery and assorted serious
> >> breaches of ethical norms.
>
> >> Apparently Thorsen was a very, very busy scientist. He was simultaneously
> >> and secretly employed at the Univ of Aarhus, Emory University, Drexel
> >> University and as a "visiting scientist at the CDC." Emory and Drexel have,
> >> some might say, inappropriately close relationships with the CDC. There
> >> appears to be very little room for independent or unbiased science at these
> >> research centers. All three are heavily invested in denying any
> >> relationships between vaccines and autism. The CDC owns numerous vaccine
> >> patents and Emory and Drexel receive tremendous financial support from
> >> vaccine companies.
>
> >> Hmmmm.I know some of you might be thinking "Emory University is in the news
> >> a lot lately!" Yes, Emory has been in the news a great deal thanks to the
> >> amazing anti- corruption work of Senator Charles Grassley. Ms. Sebelius
> >> should dump Arthur Allen and have a conversation with someone who is
> >> actually doing something to restore public confidence in our health systems
> >> by fighting the fraud and greed inherent at places like Emory. Grassley is
> >> conducting an investigation a pervasive pattern of corruption among Emory
> >> researchers who fail to disclose significant financial conflicts of interest
> >> in the outcomes of the research they conduct. Isn't it interesting that
> >> Thorsen found a second home there?
>
> >> Thorsen was working hard for everyone's benefit: his own, his employers,
> >> pharmaceutical companies- everyone's benefit, that is, except the public's.
> >> The health and safety of American kids being administered the world's most
> >> aggressive infant vaccine schedule was last on his list. Thorsen was also
> >> employed as a consultant on the official revisions of the all-important DMS
> >> V. Thorsen was advising how to count and classify autism cases. It is
> >> absolutely frightening that a wanted felon has such an enormous and
> >> pervasive influence on the lives of our children.
>
> >> So I am trying to get this straight Ms. Sebelius. Help me out here. We
> >> should take lying thieves with no interest in operating in the public's
> >> interest at their word but the media should ignore parents and legitimate
> >> scientists who question the validity of vaccine science research performed
> >> by alleged criminals? I'm really confused!
>
> >> Wouldn't it be great if Sebelius lifted her fatwa on vaccine research
> >> reporting and someone discovered what this creep Thorsen was actually up to
> >> at Drexel and Emory?  Why was Thorsen a "visiting scientist at the CDC" at
> >> the same time? Apparently the CDC has known about this theft  (of our money)
> >> for some time but has chosen to remain silent. I wonder why? How likely is
> >> it that Thorsen was the only scientist involved in what appears to be a
> >> massive and long term scheme to manipulate and forge scientific documents?
> >> Most importantly, why should the public believe that a thief and a liar with
> >> no ethical standards would be honest and scrupulous in his research? I
> >> shudder at the thought of Thorsen recounting "the facts" of his studies to
> >> students while asserting, as he frequently did, that "absolutely no more
> >> vaccine/autism research is warranted." Now there's a guarantee you can take
> >> to the bank. Oops, maybe a bank Thorsen hasn't robbed.
>
> >> Katie Wright is a Contributing Editor for Age of Autism.
>
> >> ______
>
> > Ms. WRONG has a serious reading comprehension problem. This yarn is
> > taken from a Readers Digest article by Arthur Allen, who is certainly
> > diametrically the opposite of Mr. Allen on the issue of vaccines. Mr.
> > Allen quotes:
>
> > "We have reached out to media outlets to try to get them to not give
> > the views of these people equal weight in their reporting to what
> > science has shown and continues to show about the safety of vaccines."
>
> >http://www.rd.com/health-slideshows/h1n1-the-report-card/article17474...
>
> > These is NO call for censorship or anything else Katie WRONG whines
> > about. Madame Secretary is correctly pointing out that the views of
> > the anti-vaxxers arenot supported by sceince or facts. Thus, they
> > should not be given equal weight.
>
> > I see nothing wrong with that. It is akin to having to give equal
> > weight to flat-earthers, moon-landing hoaxers, Holocausr deniers and
> > 9/11 truthers.
>
>   You, sir, are truly part of the problem.

Coming from you, I will take that as a compliment. Apparently, anyone
who is informed, documents their posts, and is not afraid to speak
out, is a problem to you and your ilk.