From: Mark Probert-Drew on
On Mar 19, 11:34 am, Happy Oyster <happy.oys...(a)ariplex.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:42:19 -0400, Mike <M...(a)localhost.localdomain> wrote:
> >Bob Officer wrote:
> >> There is no coupling mechanism between Autism and Vaccines.
>
> >There is no coupling mechanism between autism and anything,
> >for that matter. The mechanisms are not known - yet.
>
> That is a damned lie.

Actually, Mikey got it right for once.
From: Mark Probert-Drew on
On Mar 18, 10:10 pm, Mike <M...(a)localhost.localdomain> wrote:
> Bob Officer wrote:
> >>> Ms. WRONG has a serious reading comprehension problem. This yarn is
> >>> taken from a Readers Digest article by Arthur Allen, who is certainly
> >>> diametrically the opposite of Mr. Allen on the issue of vaccines. Mr.
> >>> Allen quotes:
>
> >>> "We have reached out to media outlets to try to get them to not give
> >>> the views of these people equal weight in their reporting to what
> >>> science has shown and continues to show about the safety of vaccines."
>
> >>>http://www.rd.com/health-slideshows/h1n1-the-report-card/article17474....
>
> >>> These is NO call for censorship or anything else Katie WRONG whines
> >>> about. Madame Secretary is correctly pointing out that the views of
> >>> the anti-vaxxers arenot supported by sceince or facts. Thus, they
> >>> should not be given equal weight.
> >> No Sir, this IS censorship when it comes from the government.
>
> > Nope, It is statement based in facts. The Stance has no support and
> > is doing the public harm by giving them any weight at all.
>
> It is straight from a dictator's playbook: facts are on the side of our
> beloved leader and the so-called views of so-called opposition are not
> supported by evidence. Giving them any exposure will do enormous public
> harm.
>
> > What she said it is like giving flat earthers any attention at all.
> > "The Sky" isn't falling.
>
> >> Saying "they should not be given equal weight" is one thing,
> >> saying the same thing from a position of a Cabinet Secretary is quite
> >> different. Reaching out to the media and asking them for preferential
> >> treatment for yourself and limiting opposing views IS censorship.
> >> Even if you believe that you are censoring the bad guys (and even if
> >> they were bad guys) it is censorship.
>
> > Nope. The sky isn't falling and giving them air time contributes to
> > the failing american health program.
>
> You just expressed explicit support for censorship. Why not say so?
>
>
>
> >>> I see nothing wrong with that. It is akin to having to give equal
> >>> weight to flat-earthers, moon-landing hoaxers, Holocausr deniers and
> >>> 9/11 truthers.
>
> >> If a NASA official would ask the media not to give equal weight to
> >> moon-landing hoaxers it would indicate that NASA has a credibility
> >> problem.
>
> > Nope, it is simply asking people not to spread baseless lies and
> > rumors.
>
> And people will make conclusions - what is this guy afraid of?
>
>
>
> > It is like yelling fire in a crowded theater. The person yelling
> > 'Fire' is liable and responsible for any and all harm caused by the
> > panic.
>
> There is a huge difference - time for deliberation. When somebody cries
> fire the building management does not have time to inspect and to
> communicate their findings to the public. You are pro-censorship because
> you are afraid people will hear something you do not want them to hear.-

Your position, i.e. censor the government employee, is counter
Orwellian.

From: Happy Oyster on
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:47:07 -0700 (PDT), Mark Probert-Drew
<mark.probert(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mar 19, 11:34�am, Happy Oyster <happy.oys...(a)ariplex.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:42:19 -0400, Mike <M...(a)localhost.localdomain> wrote:
>> >Bob Officer wrote:
>> >> There is no coupling mechanism between Autism and Vaccines.
>>
>> >There is no coupling mechanism between autism and anything,
>> >for that matter. The mechanisms are not known - yet.
>>
>> That is a damned lie.
>
>Actually, Mikey got it right for once.

Look at the trap: it is the word "yet"!

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From: Mark Probert-Drew on
On Mar 19, 1:11 pm, Happy Oyster <happy.oys...(a)ariplex.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:47:07 -0700 (PDT), Mark Probert-Drew
>
> <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Mar 19, 11:34 am, Happy Oyster <happy.oys...(a)ariplex.com> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:42:19 -0400, Mike <M...(a)localhost.localdomain> wrote:
> >> >Bob Officer wrote:
> >> >> There is no coupling mechanism between Autism and Vaccines.
>
> >> >There is no coupling mechanism between autism and anything,
> >> >for that matter. The mechanisms are not known - yet.
>
> >> That is a damned lie.
>
> >Actually, Mikey got it right for once.
>
> Look at the trap: it is the word "yet"!

That is the subject of research. I feel it is a fair statement.
From: Happy Oyster on
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:41:02 -0700 (PDT), Mark Probert-Drew
<mark.probert(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mar 19, 1:11�pm, Happy Oyster <happy.oys...(a)ariplex.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:47:07 -0700 (PDT), Mark Probert-Drew
>>
>> <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Mar 19, 11:34�am, Happy Oyster <happy.oys...(a)ariplex.com> wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:42:19 -0400, Mike <M...(a)localhost.localdomain> wrote:
>> >> >Bob Officer wrote:
>> >> >> There is no coupling mechanism between Autism and Vaccines.
>>
>> >> >There is no coupling mechanism between autism and anything,
>> >> >for that matter. The mechanisms are not known - yet.
>>
>> >> That is a damned lie.
>>
>> >Actually, Mikey got it right for once.
>>
>> Look at the trap: it is the word "yet"!
>
>That is the subject of research. I feel it is a fair statement.


THAT is a catch. The homeopaths use "yet" to declare that "science" "yet" has
not found the way homeopathy works. THIS WAY they inmply that it works AND they
wear the camouflage of being scientific.
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