From: john on

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw43QDiaDnE
VaccinePrimer Oct23 mp4. Physicians and health professionals are now
speaking out clearly of the risks and dangers of vaccination.
We have tip toed around the American Medical model long enough. Vaccines
come with a great risk including juvenile diabetes, asthma, ADD, ADHD, and
Autism. And never mind the more subtle injury of teenagers who can't focus
and are depressed.


From: PeterB - Original on
On Nov 3, 6:42 am, "john" <nos...(a)bt.com> wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw43QDiaDnE
> VaccinePrimer Oct23 mp4. Physicians and health professionals are now
> speaking out clearly of the risks and dangers of vaccination.
> We have tip toed around the American Medical model long enough. Vaccines
> come with a great risk including juvenile diabetes, asthma, ADD, ADHD, and
> Autism. And never mind the more subtle injury of teenagers who can't focus
> and are depressed.

When my cousin was killed by vaccine some years ago, the public still
believed in the absolute safety of any medicine approved by
government. Those days are over. This lesson also extends to areas
beyond medicine. Thanks for the link.



From: dr_jeff on
PeterB - Original wrote:
> On Nov 3, 6:42 am, "john" <nos...(a)bt.com> wrote:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw43QDiaDnE
>> VaccinePrimer Oct23 mp4. Physicians and health professionals are now
>> speaking out clearly of the risks and dangers of vaccination.
>> We have tip toed around the American Medical model long enough. Vaccines
>> come with a great risk including juvenile diabetes, asthma, ADD, ADHD, and
>> Autism. And never mind the more subtle injury of teenagers who can't focus
>> and are depressed.
>
> When my cousin was killed by vaccine some years ago, the public still
> believed in the absolute safety of any medicine approved by
> government. Those days are over. This lesson also extends to areas
> beyond medicine. Thanks for the link.

Nothing is absolutely safe. When ones poops, there is a risk of bacteria
entering the blood stream. The government never claimed that vaccines
are absolutely safe. The lesson of how dangerous vaccine-preventable
diseases are has not been lost, either. That's why vaccines save lives.

Jeff
From: Mark Probert on
On Nov 3, 6:04 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
> PeterB - Original wrote:
> > On Nov 3, 6:42 am, "john" <nos...(a)bt.com> wrote:
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw43QDiaDnE
> >> VaccinePrimer Oct23 mp4. Physicians and health professionals are now
> >> speaking out clearly of the risks and dangers of vaccination.
> >> We have tip toed around the American Medical model long enough. Vaccines
> >> come with a great risk including juvenile diabetes, asthma, ADD, ADHD, and
> >> Autism. And never mind the more subtle injury of teenagers who can't focus
> >> and are depressed.
>
> > When my cousin was killed by vaccine some years ago, the public still
> > believed in the absolute safety of any medicine approved by
> > government.  Those days are over.  This lesson also extends to areas
> > beyond medicine.  Thanks for the link.
>
> Nothing is absolutely safe. When ones poops, there is a risk of bacteria
> entering the blood stream. The government never claimed that vaccines
> are absolutely safe. The lesson of how dangerous vaccine-preventable
> diseases are has not been lost, either.

I disagree. There are many people who claim that the diseases are mild
and cause no long term problems. They claim the risk is higher with
vaccination.

I would love to see a nice, extensive herpes zoster epidemic and have
these people have a lesson. The immunity one gets from the disease
does not last a lifetime. The complications of the disease often wait
for adulthood.


That's why vaccines save lives.
>
> Jeff

From: PeterB - Original on
On Nov 3, 6:02 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
> john wrote:
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw43QDiaDnE
> > VaccinePrimer Oct23 mp4. Physicians and health professionals are now
> > speaking out clearly of the risks and dangers of vaccination.
> > We have tip toed around the American Medical model long enough. Vaccines
> > come with a great risk including juvenile diabetes, asthma, ADD, ADHD, and
> > Autism. And never mind the more subtle injury of teenagers who can't focus
> > and are depressed.
>
> That's totally untrue. Vaccines have been shown to be safe and
> effective. They are not 100% safe: There are some risks. However, the
> benefits greatly outweigh the risks. There is no evidence that vaccines
> cause ADHD, autism, difficulty focusing or depression. If I am
> incorrect, please provide the citations to the peer-reviewed journal
> articles.

In the absence of proper safety data on vaccine, it's use violates a
responsible application of the Precautionary Principle, which states
that proponents of any intervention (medical or otherwise) be required
to prove such safety. As a proponent of vaccine, it is YOUR
responsibility to produce that data. Unfortunately, you can't,
because it doesn't exist. BTW, VAERS (which your own CDC claims is a
valid repository of adverse vaccine reports) has not been vetted by
the vaccine makers despite decades of access. You might want to talk
to your sponsors about that.