From: Workingmom on
Workingmom skrev:
> Your son is now 8 weeks - that's the time when milk production have
> stabilized to be regulated by demand and not by hormones. It's very
> common to to feel 'full' at this point - ever.

NOT to feel full

Sorry!

Tine Ditmar
From: Irrational Number on
mhammers(a)gmail.com wrote:
>
> Sorry my son was born at 5 lbs 12 ozs and lost to 4 lbs 11 ozs in 5
> days.

First of all, it takes up to two weeks to regain
to birth weight. I think your son did do that.

> to move to complete breast milk in about 2 weeks.

Excellent.

> He weighed 9 lbs 3
> ozs one week ago.

Wow, so in 2 months, he almost doubled his weight.
He is doing awesome.

> Weight gain on the breast is good, only if he is
> nursing all the time. I mean all the time with maybe 2 hours off
> during day given at 30 minute times and a 6 hour stretch at night.

This is normal. Repeat after me, what your baby
is doing is normal. Infants are supposed to
nurse all the time. Yes, normal. Got that?

Pillbug nursed for 45 minutes per hour, every
hour, during the daytime. He went about 3 hours
at night. Rocky was latched on almost constantly
in the first few weeks, then went to cluster feeding,
where he nursed from 5pm to 9pm straight (well, okay,
I got 5-minute breaks here and there).

> Any
> other time, we were feeding. I am lucking to work for myself, but
> still need time during the day to work.

The reason new mothers need their village is that
nursing takes up so much time initially. I'm sorry
that you have to work so soon after giving birth.

> I have just never felt as though there was much milk. Even at times
> when most talk about engorgement and leaking, I never seemed to have
> any firmness to the breast at all.

That's fine. You don't have to ever feel engorgement.
Consider yourself lucky that you don't have to spend
a fortune on bra pads.

> I can feel the milk now but only 4
> hours after pumping and sometimes up to 8

Now, it seems to me you have great supply. Baby is
gaining weight well and he is doing this by nursing
exclusively. You do NOT have to pump. Unless you
are building up a freezer stash, stop pumping now.
Give yourself a break.

> Since he nursed all day, my breast got used to slowly producing milk.
> I need to speed that milk production up.

No, you do not need to "speed ... production up".
You are doing fine.

> If I could never get 4 ounces off both (2 oz each) breast with 20
> minutes at each breast(double pump), then I would say that maybe I
> could not pump.

When women pump in addition to nursing, getting 1 oz.
is average. When pumping instead of nursing (such as
at work), 3 oz. is average. You are pumping in
addition to nursing and getting 4 oz. That is
extremely good supply.

> But, I can when the breast get firm. I also can get
> close to the same production from a manual pump (it just causes my
> arms to hurt).

Stop pumping. You're fine. Stop pumping.

If you want to create a freezer stash, then pump
once a day and freeze that milk. Otherwise, stop
pumping. Don't stress. Give yourself some extra
free time.

Baby is doing great. Stop pumping.

-- Anita --
From: Irrational Number on
mhammers(a)gmail.com wrote:

> Since he nursed all day,

By the way, there are well-known growth spurts
at 3 weeks, 6 weeks, 3 months, and 6 months.
Brace yourself for baby to nurse EVEN MORE in
a month! Prepare to be unable to work for a
few days. ;)

-- Anita --
From: xkatx on

"Irrational Number" <nospam(a)nospam.com> wrote in message
news:IjJWh.7356$3P3.5116(a)newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> mhammers(a)gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Sorry my son was born at 5 lbs 12 ozs and lost to 4 lbs 11 ozs in 5
>> days.
>
> First of all, it takes up to two weeks to regain
> to birth weight. I think your son did do that.
>
>> to move to complete breast milk in about 2 weeks.
>
> Excellent.
>
>> He weighed 9 lbs 3
>> ozs one week ago.
>
> Wow, so in 2 months, he almost doubled his weight.
> He is doing awesome.


I was going to say exactly what you just said above, until my computer froze
and I had to start all over again lol
I heard it was about 10 days for birth weight, but I do agree that 14 days
is probably about average. Maybe the 10 days I heard was the high end of
average. I only remember 10 days because DD2 was about 2 oz over her birth
weight by 8 days when I weighed her, and the nurse made a comment about
awesome weight gain - and just above birth weight 2 days early.
I don't remember when mine doubled birth weight, but by 2 months, that is
definitely good weight gain. I know right now, DD2 was just over 14lbs when
weighed last, and that was 2 or so weeks ago. I'd guess she's over 15lbs
now for sure, and I'm preparing for another huge growth spurt real soon as
she's 6 months. She was 7lbs 3oz at birth.

>> Weight gain on the breast is good, only if he is
>> nursing all the time. I mean all the time with maybe 2 hours off
>> during day given at 30 minute times and a 6 hour stretch at night.
>
> This is normal. Repeat after me, what your baby
> is doing is normal. Infants are supposed to
> nurse all the time. Yes, normal. Got that?
>
> Pillbug nursed for 45 minutes per hour, every
> hour, during the daytime. He went about 3 hours
> at night. Rocky was latched on almost constantly
> in the first few weeks, then went to cluster feeding,
> where he nursed from 5pm to 9pm straight (well, okay,
> I got 5-minute breaks here and there).
>
>> Any
>> other time, we were feeding. I am lucking to work for myself, but
>> still need time during the day to work.
>
> The reason new mothers need their village is that
> nursing takes up so much time initially. I'm sorry
> that you have to work so soon after giving birth.
>
>> I have just never felt as though there was much milk. Even at times
>> when most talk about engorgement and leaking, I never seemed to have
>> any firmness to the breast at all.
>
> That's fine. You don't have to ever feel engorgement.
> Consider yourself lucky that you don't have to spend
> a fortune on bra pads.
>
>> I can feel the milk now but only 4
>> hours after pumping and sometimes up to 8
>
> Now, it seems to me you have great supply. Baby is
> gaining weight well and he is doing this by nursing
> exclusively. You do NOT have to pump. Unless you
> are building up a freezer stash, stop pumping now.
> Give yourself a break.
>
>> Since he nursed all day, my breast got used to slowly producing milk.
>> I need to speed that milk production up.
>
> No, you do not need to "speed ... production up".
> You are doing fine.
>
>> If I could never get 4 ounces off both (2 oz each) breast with 20
>> minutes at each breast(double pump), then I would say that maybe I
>> could not pump.
>
> When women pump in addition to nursing, getting 1 oz.
> is average. When pumping instead of nursing (such as
> at work), 3 oz. is average. You are pumping in
> addition to nursing and getting 4 oz. That is
> extremely good supply.
>
>> But, I can when the breast get firm. I also can get
>> close to the same production from a manual pump (it just causes my
>> arms to hurt).
>
> Stop pumping. You're fine. Stop pumping.
>
> If you want to create a freezer stash, then pump
> once a day and freeze that milk. Otherwise, stop
> pumping. Don't stress. Give yourself some extra
> free time.
>
> Baby is doing great. Stop pumping.
>
> -- Anita --

LOL good advice!


From: mhammers on
On Apr 22, 8:21 am, Irrational Number <nos...(a)nospam.com> wrote:
> mhamm...(a)gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Sorry my son was born at 5 lbs 12 ozs and lost to 4 lbs 11 ozs in 5
> > days.
>
> First of all, it takes up to two weeks to regain
> to birth weight. I think your son did do that.
>
> > to move to complete breast milk in about 2 weeks.
>
> Excellent.
>
> > He weighed 9 lbs 3
> > ozs one week ago.
>
> Wow, so in 2 months, he almost doubled his weight.
> He is doing awesome.
>
> > Weight gain on the breast is good, only if he is
> > nursing all the time. I mean all the time with maybe 2 hours off
> > during day given at 30 minute times and a 6 hour stretch at night.
>
> This is normal. Repeat after me, what your baby
> is doing is normal. Infants are supposed to
> nurse all the time. Yes, normal. Got that?
>
> Pillbug nursed for 45 minutes per hour, every
> hour, during the daytime. He went about 3 hours
> at night. Rocky was latched on almost constantly
> in the first few weeks, then went to cluster feeding,
> where he nursed from 5pm to 9pm straight (well, okay,
> I got 5-minute breaks here and there).
>
> > Any
> > other time, we were feeding. I am lucking to work for myself, but
> > still need time during the day to work.
>
> The reason new mothers need their village is that
> nursing takes up so much time initially. I'm sorry
> that you have to work so soon after giving birth.
>
> > I have just never felt as though there was much milk. Even at times
> > when most talk about engorgement and leaking, I never seemed to have
> > any firmness to the breast at all.
>
> That's fine. You don't have to ever feel engorgement.
> Consider yourself lucky that you don't have to spend
> a fortune on bra pads.
>
> > I can feel the milk now but only 4
> > hours after pumping and sometimes up to 8
>
> Now, it seems to me you have great supply. Baby is
> gaining weight well and he is doing this by nursing
> exclusively. You do NOT have to pump. Unless you
> are building up a freezer stash, stop pumping now.
> Give yourself a break.
>
> > Since he nursed all day, my breast got used to slowly producing milk.
> > I need to speed that milk production up.
>
> No, you do not need to "speed ... production up".
> You are doing fine.
>
> > If I could never get 4 ounces off both (2 oz each) breast with 20
> > minutes at each breast(double pump), then I would say that maybe I
> > could not pump.
>
> When women pump in addition to nursing, getting 1 oz.
> is average. When pumping instead of nursing (such as
> at work), 3 oz. is average. You are pumping in
> addition to nursing and getting 4 oz. That is
> extremely good supply.
>
> > But, I can when the breast get firm. I also can get
> > close to the same production from a manual pump (it just causes my
> > arms to hurt).
>
> Stop pumping. You're fine. Stop pumping.
>
> If you want to create a freezer stash, then pump
> once a day and freeze that milk. Otherwise, stop
> pumping. Don't stress. Give yourself some extra
> free time.
>
> Baby is doing great. Stop pumping.
>
> -- Anita --

Thanks Anita for making me feel a little better. The only thing is
since he was feeding so much I thought that he was not getting enough.
I went to bottle feeding but pumping the breastmilk and limited
formula. He is feeding every 2 hours and taking 4 to 5 ounces. I was
trying to pump and get as much as he needed to fill the bottles. After
a week and a half break, last night after posting and xkatx responded,
I put him back on the breast. He took it with no problems and is
actually stronger feeding that he used to be. I guess that is coming
with him getting bigger. I think maybe I was expecting myself to do
much more than what is possible.
I will put him back on the breast when not working. I do need to try
and pump to meet his demands while I work. Every formula I have tried
him on he throws it up after a couple of bottles.

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