From: Greegor on
KBW > Question to Greg:
KBW > Why are you refusing, again, to address
KBW > the point raised? By YOUR standards,
KBW > you have offered the tacit admission
KBW > that the reason you bring up that
KBW > which has been answered, multiple times,
KBW > is due to your use and abuse of
KBW > illegal drugs.

Kent Wills classical fallacy G.1 and G.2
You often declare yourself victorious.
You're like "Baghdad Bob" in that way.


KBW > Do you regret DEMANDING that the tacit
KBW > admission standard be applied to
KBW > others yet? Way to go, stupid.

G > Who expunged your birthday from

KBW > As you have already admitted, the date
KBW > listed was never my real date of birth.

> >> >the birthday page YOU webmastered?
>
> >>      As you already know, having commented on it in the past, the page
> >> vanished when the domain expired.  The domain is back up but I'm not
> >> using it.

KBW > I should have checked before making
KBW > the above claim.  The domain, pcpages.com,
KBW > was back up once, but as Greg allows
KBW > anyone with an interest to verify, it
KBW > expired again.
KBW > In Greg's mind, this will mean I've expunged the site.

Kent, You had your name and birthday removed
from the list long BEFORE the domain lapsed.

KBW > He makes the claim

The claims about the doain lapse are all yours.

My claim is about your removal of your
name and birthday from the list BEFORE
the domain lapse.

> near the end of the post to which I am replying.  Greg's
> admitted use and abuse of illegal drugs gives him many delusions.


> >>      It's possible the information is still located within the
> >> archives of pcpages' servers, but I can't be bothered to find out.
>
> >http://www.legalspring.com/articles/misc-legal/20080327/566781_Kent-B...
>
KBW > Whereas it was PROVED you edited the list

Lie. Kent is constantly declaring himself victorious.

KBW > (unless you wish to
> admit someone else did and you posted it without checking), linking to
> your edited list only serves to prove how desperate you are to
> continue lying.

The archive of posts and references
to the birthday list proves you are
telling lies, Kent.

KBW > Why do you have the overpowering psychological
KBW > NEED to lie, Greg? Serious question.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question

http://www.sjsu.edu/depts/itl/graphics/adhom/loaded.html


> >http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:wEMvzeKwaFIJ:www.legalspring.com/....
>
>      Again, posting a link to that which you edited, and that which
> you have admitted isn't about me doesn't prove your current claim.  It
> only adds more proof you are psychologically UNABLE to be honest,
> unless you make a mistake or are forced. Not that any more proof is
> needed.

Kent, Usenet posts prior to late July 2008
and shortly after, reflect the truth of
what your birthday page said.

You weren't in the habit of using x-no-archive
then but even if you deleted some of
the messages where you acknowledged
the late July change, they probably
exist, reflected in others posts quoting you.





> >http://www.pcpages.com/altfriends/bday.html
> >alt.friends birthday list Names are in no particular order.
> >Name Birthday Email
> >1 Nancy (Cranky Cat) Mar 13, 1957 crankycat1 at hotmail.com
> >2 Sharon (Stinkweed) Apr 6
> >3 Bianca (Motherbink) Apr 28, 1960 motherbink at yahoo.com
> >4 Matthew May 12, 1982 troutd at localnet.com
> >5 Vijay Kumar R Zanvar May 19, 1977 vijoeyz at hotmail.com
> >6 Warren Davies May 24, 1931 w.davies at comcast.net
> >7 Gayle (Piper) June 3, 1944 shamrea at hotmail.com
> >8 Augustin (Jean Claude) Jun 18, 1938 jean.toussaint at bluewin.ch
> >9 Old Codger(TX) Jul 10 old.codger at overthehill.com
> >10 Erica Visser Sep 02, 1931 ha.visser at hccnet.nl
> >11 Doug Best Sep 13, 1950 dbest at mail.geneseeschools.org
> >12 Bigbazza (Barry)..Oz Oct 15, 1939 big underscore bazz at bigpond
> >dot net dot au
> >13 Kent Wills (Your Webmaster) Jan 8, 1969 compuelf at gmail dot
> >com
>
>      You've already admitted you stalk the members of alt.friends due
> to your use and abuse of illegal drugs.  I quote your open admission
> in my sig.  Aside from listing who wrote what, it's a direct copy and
> paste of one of your posts.
>      While it's nice that you wish to offer more PROOF that you're
> nothing but a drug addled loser, it's no longer necessary.  No one has
> tried to counter the truth of your admission.
>
> >Nancy is from Canada.
> >Sharon is from Wisconsin.
> >Motherbink lives in Slidell, Louisiana, USA.
> >Matthew is from Baltimore, Maryland, USA.
> >Vijay is from Bangalore, India.
> >Warren is from Petaluma, California.
> >Gayle is from Alabama, USA.
> >Augustin is in Switzerland.
> >Old Codger is from Texas.
> >Erica Visser lives in Amsterdam, The Netherlands.
> >Dough Best is from Genesee Michigan.
> >Bigbazza lives in Sydney, Australia.
>
> >http://www.nnseek.com/e/ia.talk.misc/our_kent_wills_is_a_convicted_bu...
>
>      Linking to your own post only serves to prove that you were
> lying.  Of course, this truth is so accepted, NO ONE has ever tried to
> counter it.
>
>
>
> >http://WWW.pcpages.com/altfriends/bday.html
>
>      From the URL:
>
> The domain pcpages.com has expired. If you owned this domain, please
> contact your domain registration service provider for further
> assistance. If you need help identifying your service provider, visithttp://tucowsdomains.com/help/.
>
>      Looks like the people in charge of pcpages has allowed the domain
> to expire again.
>     Will you claim, once again, that this means I expunged the Friends
> web site?  You make the claim below, so you'll have to again. Either
> that or admit another of your MANY drug induced lies has been exposed.
>
> >alt.friends birthday list Names are in no particular order.

13 Kent Wills (Your Webmaster) Jan 8, 1969 compuelf at gmail

KBW > That NEVER appeared on the site.  You
KBW > edited what was listed, as was proved
KBW > a very long time ago.

Got a LINK?

KBW > People did visit the site and
KBW > they saw that the name and date of birth
KBW > were not what you claimed and claim.

Please LINK to their posts!
You liar.


> The original listed my name as Brian Jones.
> I didn't commit the date of birth I listed
> to memory, but I think it was July something of
> 1974.  I do recall it was the early 70's.
> If you have the original list, not the one PROVED to have been
> edited, you are free to post the actual date listed.  
> Will you be man enough to post the original, if you have it, or
> will you once again PROVE you are psychologically UNABLE to be honest,
> except by accident or force?
> If you only posses the edited list, please state so.

> >http://alt.nntp2http.com/adoption/2008/08/a91af7682c78247592ea1de5b0b...
>
>      Trying to use that which was PROVED to be a lie to support your
> lie isn't going to work, Greg.  Not to any rational mind.
>      YM WILL V, of course.
>
> >http://www.pcpages.com/altfriends/bday.html
> >alt.friends birthday list   Names are in no particular order.
> >13  Kent Wills (Your Webmaster)  Jan 8, 1969  compuelf at gmail
> >[ Kent altered this in late July 2008 (or had somebody else) ]
>
>      Why do you lie?
>      I've asked this of you MANY time, yet you have never answered.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question

http://www.sjsu.edu/depts/itl/graphics/adhom/loaded.html


> >http://www.advancedlegalhelp.com/articles/misc-legal/20080312/563984_...
>
>     Wow.  Betty quoting you, showing the flaws in your drug inspired
> claims, then asking you to prove your claim that I am the same Kent
> Wills you claimed I am.
>     You have since admitted my name in real life isn't Kent and that
> the information you post as if it was and is about me isn't about me.
>
> >4/14/2008 7:57:08 AM
> >[ Posted THREE MONTHS BEFORE Kent edited it out ]
>
>      How do you propose I can edit out Betty's posts?  And if I did
> edit out Betty's post, how do you explain your ability to link to it?
>      Do you even think before you post, or are you too stoned to do
> so?  Serious question.
>
>
>
> >Here's his birthday, from Kent's OWN alt.friends birthday web page.
> >http://www.pcpages.com/altfriends/bday.html
> >alt.friends birthday list Names are in no particular order.
> >13 Kent Wills (Your Webmaster) Jan 8, 1969 compuelf at gmail

KBW > The text was PROVED, long ago, to have
KBW > been edited. Since it was proved, why
KBW > do you continue to present it as if it
KBW > wasn't proved to have been edited?
KBW > Serious question, Greg.

G.1. and G.2.

Kent's stock deceptions/logical fallacies

F. Ad Hominem calling opponents
1. Drunks or drunk drivers
2. Druggies or on drugs
3. Mentally Ill often as result of drug use
G. Res Judicata
1. Already conceded to Kent's argument
2. Question already asked and answered.
H. Fallacy of Suppressed Evidence
1a. Missing Middle, False Dilemma, False Dichotomy, bifurcation
1b. Fallacy of Complex Question - loaded question with presupposition
2. Withholding proof saying it's already on the table
3. ""Check is in the mail"" as proof of something.
4. Proof held hostage awaiting opponents proof on something else
J. Lie claimed to be based on opponents standards - a type of strawman

Claim that a lack of proof disproves something.
Claim that a lack of proof proves something.
Flat out outright lies.

It's as if Kent is an automation that is WAY too simple.


> >[ Also quoted by dragonsgirl"  4/15/2008 11:50:12 PM
> >THREE MONTHS before it was ""mysteriously"" expunged.]

KBW > That she quoted YOUR lie does not equate
KBW > to her making the claim, no matter how
KBW > much your drug addled mind DEMANDS you
KBW > claim it to be so.

Please LINK and quote to where the
content of YOUR birthday page was
challenged before late July of 2008.

Betty didn't challenge what was
self evident at the time.

Did you deny what the birthday page
said WHILE it was actually up, Kent?


> BTW, the domain no longer being active isn't an indication of
> anyone expunging anything.  I realize your admitted use and abuse of
> illegal drugs causes you numerous delusions, but contrary to what you
> must believe (unless you're lying), I don't have the authority or
> power to cause the expiration of a domain.  Really.  Only time, and a
> lack of desire to renew on the part of the PTB within the domain, can
> do that.
>      As much as you HATE it, this is the truth.
>      Now be a good little monkey and either RUN from the truth I've
> presented or attempt to distract from it.  You ALWAYS do one or the
> other, since admitting the truth is IMPOSSIBLE for you.  At least
> intentionally.


KBW > A select number of items that really are about

Kent is such a liar that even HE
feels he has to add the words
"really are" to try to convince
people that he's telling the truth.

Kent is like the boy who cried Wolf!

Kent tends to tell bits of truth
ONLY as a means to fob off lies.