From: Mark Probert-Drew on
On Apr 27, 4:49 pm, mainframetech <mainframet...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 24, 10:01 pm, Mark Probert-Drew <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 24, 8:51 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 24, 12:42 pm, Happy Oyster <happy.oys...(a)ariplex.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 06:25:38 -0700 (PDT), mainframetech
>
> > > > <mainframet...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > Once again we see news of a teen being killed allegedly by a
> > > > >vaccine. Too many of these cases are mounting up.
>
> > > > That is insane bullshit.
>
> > > ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
>
> > Don't bother to wake up.
>
>    LOL!   It's so easy to draw out the usual suspects... :)  

Such as? Here, DREW was dozing off on her computer.

Just say
> something true and deleterious about a drug company or their products
> and they come skittering out of the cracks in the wall to defend their
> mommy...

Wrong, asswipe. You claim "truth" but have not posted anything.

>    Hang on kiddies, more truth to come... :)

Yes, kiddies will believe you. I deal with grown-ups.


From: Jan Drew on
http://www.pharmalive.com/News/index.cfm?articleid=699092&categoryid=27#


HPV Vaccine Kills 16-Year-Old Girl Lawsuit Alleges



(PRWEB) April 21, 2010 -- A lawsuit filed in the U.S. Federal Court of
Claims this week alleges that the HPV vaccine Gardasil caused the
death of a 16-year-old Missouri girl. Gardasil is a vaccine used to
prevent the transmission of a sexually transmitted disease called
human papillomavirus (HPV). Controversy regarding the safety of
Gardasil surrounded the vaccine since its FDA approval in 2006 and
continues to be the subject of intense debate.



Safety and efficacy of Gardasil in question

As on December 31, 2008 there were 12,424 reports of injuries related
to Gardasil in the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) (1).
These reports are used by the FDA to monitor the safety of vaccines
and it is well known that injuries are underreported (1). Of note, 68%
of the 12,424 reports of injury where written employees of Merck (1).
While there is risk of injury with every drug, including vaccines, at
least one report questions whether or not Gardasil provides enough
protection to counterbalance the risk of injury.

In a report issued by Judicial Watch, it was found that Gardasil was
not tested thoroughly enough to know whether it will be safe or
effective in the long term (2). The report goes on to state that it is
still unknown how long any protection provided by the vaccine lasts
(2).

Influence of Merck's money on doctor recommendations

Merck's 1 Less campaign, directed at every adolescent-aged female
instead of those populations at greatest risk, combined with the
generous education grants for professional medical associations like
the American Medical Society (3). These grants were made with the
primary goal of obtaining physician encouragement of Gardasil
vaccinations and proved successful as sales in 2008 were $1.4 billion
worldwide (3). However, the relationship between professional medical
associations and Merck raises questions concerning Merck's aggressive
anticancer campaign's influence on the responsibilities these
associations have to be impartial advocates for vaccinations (3).

The death of a 16-year-old girl two days after receiving her last
Gardasil shot

According to Court documents, two days after receiving her third and
final Gardasil shot, the 16 year old girl collapsed in seizure while
walking through a parking lot. She was rushed to the hospital and
passed away a short time later. "I think we can all agree that its not
normal for a healthy 16-year-old girl to suddenly suffer a seizure and
die" said attorney Mark Sadaka, MSPH who represents the family of the
girl. "What makes the case against Gardasil compelling is that the
seizure happened within two days of her last shot."

The lawsuit is pending in the vaccine injury compensation program
located in the U.S. Federal Court of Claims in Washington, DC case No.
10-175v.

About Mark Sadaka, MSPH

Mark Sadaka is an attorney and public health advocate. Mr. Sadaka is a
partner in the law firm of Potts Sadaka LLC and can be contacted at
1-800-810-3457 or by visiting VaccineInjuryHelpCenter.com.

(1) Slade et al. Postlicensure Safety Surveillance for Quadrivalent
Human Papillomavirus Recombinant Vaccine. JAMA: The Journal of the
American Medical Association (2009) vol. 302 (7) pp. 750-757.

(2) Judicial Watch, Examining the FDA's HPV Vaccine Records (June 30,
2008).

(3) Rothman and Rothman. Marketing HPV Vaccine: Implications for
Adolescent Health and Medical Professionalism. JAMA: The Journal of
the American Medical Association

What part of that do you not understand?



From: Mark Probert-Drew on
On Apr 29, 7:48 am, Bob Officer <boboffic...(a)127.0.0.7> wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 20:32:14 -0700 (PDT), in misc.health.alternative,
>
>
>
>
>
> Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >http://www.pharmalive.com/News/index.cfm?articleid=699092&categoryid=27#
>
> >HPV Vaccine Kills 16-Year-Old Girl Lawsuit Alleges
>
> >(PRWEB) April 21, 2010 -- A lawsuit filed in the U.S. Federal Court of
> >Claims this week alleges that the HPV vaccine Gardasil caused the
> >death of a 16-year-old Missouri girl. Gardasil is a vaccine used to
> >prevent the transmission of a sexually transmitted disease called
> >human papillomavirus (HPV). Controversy regarding the safety of
> >Gardasil surrounded the vaccine since its FDA approval in 2006 and
> >continues to be the subject of intense debate.
>
> >Safety and efficacy of Gardasil in question
>
> >As on December 31, 2008 there were 12,424 reports of injuries related
> >to Gardasil in the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) (1).
> >These reports are used by the FDA to monitor the safety of vaccines
> >and it is well known that injuries are underreported (1). Of note, 68%
> >of the 12,424 reports of injury where written employees of Merck (1).
> >While there is risk of injury with every drug, including vaccines, at
> >least one report questions whether or not Gardasil provides enough
> >protection to counterbalance the risk of injury.
>
> >In a report issued by Judicial Watch,
>
> http://www.judicialwatch.org/about-us
> <cite>
> Judicial Watch, Inc., a conservative, non-partisan educational
> foundation, promotes transparency, accountability and integrity in
> government, politics and the law. Through its educational endeavors,
> Judicial Watch advocates high standards of ethics and morality in our
> nation's public life and seeks to ensure that political and judicial
> officials do not abuse the powers entrusted to them by the American
> people. Judicial Watch fulfills its educational mission through
> litigation, investigations, and public outreach.
> </cite>
>
> Talk about Silly and lack of critical thinking. Jan Can you see the
> absolute contradiction in the 1st sentence of their own statement?
>
> I will explain it to you, since it is plain you are Stupid. The 1st
> line of their about statement  Claim to be non-partisan, but in the
> Very Next phrase or  set of words describes them as "Conservative".
> In other words they are "Partisan". This Deliberate Bias, (You can
> look up what those words mean on your own, Jan) will color any thing
> and everything they publish, won't it.
>
> it was found that Gardasil was
>
> <snip>
>
> >The death of a 16-year-old girl two days after receiving her last
> >Gardasil shot
>
> Two days? after her last shot. A Lot can happen in two days.
>
> >According to Court documents, two days after receiving her third and
> >final Gardasil shot, the 16 year old girl collapsed in seizure while
> >walking through a parking lot.
>
> Where, What time of the Day, what had she eaten, where had she been
> for the last two days? There is a host of questions, unanswered in
> your copy of the press release, which will be asked during the trial.
>
> >She was rushed to the hospital and
> >passed away a short time later. "I think we can all agree that its not
> >normal for a healthy 16-year-old girl to suddenly suffer a seizure and
> >die" said attorney Mark Sadaka, MSPH who represents the family of the
> >girl. "What makes the case against Gardasil compelling is that the
> >seizure happened within two days of her last shot."
>
> No it isn't normal, but it still happens. IT happens before the
> Vaccine was used. Sadly young people still have seizures, and
> sometimes they died. So yes it could be called normal.
>
> The Results of the autopsy will give more information. I see there is
> no mention of the results of any post mortem testing.
>
> >The lawsuit is pending in the vaccine injury compensation program
> >located in the U.S. Federal Court of Claims in Washington, DC case No.
> >10-175v.
>
> >About Mark Sadaka, MSPH
>
> >Mark Sadaka is an attorney and public health advocate. Mr. Sadaka is a
> >partner in the law firm of Potts Sadaka LLC and can be contacted at
> >1-800-810-3457 or by visiting VaccineInjuryHelpCenter.com.
>
> Sadly this is the only way some lawyers can advertise. Aren't you
> glad you can appearently help some lawyers find a way around their
> state bar rules about advertising.
>
> Oh look there goes an ambulance and behind it is a dozen chasers.
>
> <snip>
>
> >What part of that do you not understand?
>
> What Part you do not understand , Jan? Your personal bias, Your lack
> of critical thinking, your shilling of an ad for a law firm, (I
> thought you didn't like spam, Jan. You didn't know the service
> provided by the VaccineInjuryHelpCenter.com. is a law services and
> legal clinic?).
>
> The Fact is the Assessed Risk of any damage from the vaccine to the
> population is less than the Assessed Risk to the Population from HPV.
>

Excellent takedown and analysis. Judicialwatch is so often wrong, I
sent them a pair of my old prescription glasses to help them watch
better.

They did not think I was funny.

I am still laughing, and I am due for a new pair...

From: Mark Probert-Drew on
On Apr 29, 7:57 pm, Bob Officer <boboffic...(a)127.0.0.7> wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 06:27:26 -0700 (PDT), in misc.health.alternative,
>
>
>
>
>
> Mark Probert-Drew <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Apr 29, 7:48 am, Bob Officer <boboffic...(a)127.0.0.7> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 20:32:14 -0700 (PDT), in misc.health.alternative,
>
> >> Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >> >http://www.pharmalive.com/News/index.cfm?articleid=699092&categoryid=27#
>
> >> >HPV Vaccine Kills 16-Year-Old Girl Lawsuit Alleges
>
> >> >(PRWEB) April 21, 2010 -- A lawsuit filed in the U.S. Federal Court of
> >> >Claims this week alleges that the HPV vaccine Gardasil caused the
> >> >death of a 16-year-old Missouri girl. Gardasil is a vaccine used to
> >> >prevent the transmission of a sexually transmitted disease called
> >> >human papillomavirus (HPV). Controversy regarding the safety of
> >> >Gardasil surrounded the vaccine since its FDA approval in 2006 and
> >> >continues to be the subject of intense debate.
>
> >> >Safety and efficacy of Gardasil in question
>
> >> >As on December 31, 2008 there were 12,424 reports of injuries related
> >> >to Gardasil in the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) (1)..
> >> >These reports are used by the FDA to monitor the safety of vaccines
> >> >and it is well known that injuries are underreported (1). Of note, 68%
> >> >of the 12,424 reports of injury where written employees of Merck (1).
> >> >While there is risk of injury with every drug, including vaccines, at
> >> >least one report questions whether or not Gardasil provides enough
> >> >protection to counterbalance the risk of injury.
>
> >> >In a report issued by Judicial Watch,
>
> >>http://www.judicialwatch.org/about-us
> >> <cite>
> >> Judicial Watch, Inc., a conservative, non-partisan educational
> >> foundation, promotes transparency, accountability and integrity in
> >> government, politics and the law. Through its educational endeavors,
> >> Judicial Watch advocates high standards of ethics and morality in our
> >> nation's public life and seeks to ensure that political and judicial
> >> officials do not abuse the powers entrusted to them by the American
> >> people. Judicial Watch fulfills its educational mission through
> >> litigation, investigations, and public outreach.
> >> </cite>
>
> >> Talk about Silly and lack of critical thinking. Jan Can you see the
> >> absolute contradiction in the 1st sentence of their own statement?
>
> >> I will explain it to you, since it is plain you are Stupid. The 1st
> >> line of their about statement  Claim to be non-partisan, but in the
> >> Very Next phrase or  set of words describes them as "Conservative".
> >> In other words they are "Partisan". This Deliberate Bias, (You can
> >> look up what those words mean on your own, Jan) will color any thing
> >> and everything they publish, won't it.
>
> >> it was found that Gardasil was
>
> >> <snip>
>
> >> >The death of a 16-year-old girl two days after receiving her last
> >> >Gardasil shot
>
> >> Two days? after her last shot. A Lot can happen in two days.
>
> >> >According to Court documents, two days after receiving her third and
> >> >final Gardasil shot, the 16 year old girl collapsed in seizure while
> >> >walking through a parking lot.
>
> >> Where, What time of the Day, what had she eaten, where had she been
> >> for the last two days? There is a host of questions, unanswered in
> >> your copy of the press release, which will be asked during the trial.
>
> >> >She was rushed to the hospital and
> >> >passed away a short time later. "I think we can all agree that its not
> >> >normal for a healthy 16-year-old girl to suddenly suffer a seizure and
> >> >die" said attorney Mark Sadaka, MSPH who represents the family of the
> >> >girl. "What makes the case against Gardasil compelling is that the
> >> >seizure happened within two days of her last shot."
>
> >> No it isn't normal, but it still happens. IT happens before the
> >> Vaccine was used. Sadly young people still have seizures, and
> >> sometimes they died. So yes it could be called normal.
>
> >> The Results of the autopsy will give more information. I see there is
> >> no mention of the results of any post mortem testing.
>
> >> >The lawsuit is pending in the vaccine injury compensation program
> >> >located in the U.S. Federal Court of Claims in Washington, DC case No..
> >> >10-175v.
>
> >> >About Mark Sadaka, MSPH
>
> >> >Mark Sadaka is an attorney and public health advocate. Mr. Sadaka is a
> >> >partner in the law firm of Potts Sadaka LLC and can be contacted at
> >> >1-800-810-3457 or by visiting VaccineInjuryHelpCenter.com.
>
> >> Sadly this is the only way some lawyers can advertise. Aren't you
> >> glad you can appearently help some lawyers find a way around their
> >> state bar rules about advertising.
>
> >> Oh look there goes an ambulance and behind it is a dozen chasers.
>
> >> <snip>
>
> >> >What part of that do you not understand?
>
> >> What Part you do not understand , Jan? Your personal bias, Your lack
> >> of critical thinking, your shilling of an ad for a law firm, (I
> >> thought you didn't like spam, Jan. You didn't know the service
> >> provided by the VaccineInjuryHelpCenter.com. is a law services and
> >> legal clinic?).
>
> >> The Fact is the Assessed Risk of any damage from the vaccine to the
> >> population is less than the Assessed Risk to the Population from HPV.
>
> >Excellent takedown and analysis. Judicialwatch is so often wrong, I
> >sent them a pair of my old prescription glasses to help them watch
> >better.
>
> >They did not think I was funny.
>
> >I am still laughing, and I am due for a new pair...
>
> It doesn't matter what noise these people make trying to generate
> fear, it is the assessed risks which matter.

Unfortunately, the noise matters. It reinforces the fears of parents
who have limited critical thinking skills, and scares more people. It
is hard to unring the bell.

I am not saying that
> this case above was connected to the Vaccine, but the Assessed risk
> of getting HPV and Cancer is greater than possible side effects of
> the vaccine.
>
> A simple class in critical thinking and logic, and maybe basic
> reading comprehension is needed for too many people today. I suspect
> the TV has made then more illiterate. Skills like critical reading
> and reading for comprehension are skills which need to be practiced.
>
> --
> Bob Officer
> Posting the truthhttp://www.skeptics.com.au

From: D. C. Sessions on
In message <903c8d6a-da3a-4809-9baa-ba74ce628050(a)u34g2000yqu.googlegroups.com>, Steelclaws wrote:

> What did the autopsy report say the cause of death was?

Doesn't matter what the autopsy report showed unless it
supports Scudamore's delusions. Otherwise it can be
written off as a "Pharma Shill" cover-up.

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