From: Jeff on
Mercury.sailor wrote:
> On May 25, 7:48 pm, Jeff <kidsdoc2...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Mercury.sailor wrote:
>>> On May 25, 7:21 pm, Jeff <kidsdoc2...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Mercury.sailor wrote:
>>>>>> The information you request are at sites likewww.cdc.gov. Read their
>>>>>> recommendations and reports for the vaccines. They have lots of data
>>>>>> about the efficacy of the vaccines.
>>>>>> In addition, the CDC has this site that should help you:http://www.cdc.gov/nip/default.htm
>>>>> Why dont you just post something directly from Pharma next time!
>>>> The CDC is not big pharma, whether you want to believe it or not.
>>>>> You
>>>>> do realize its Pharma paid Doctors that are promting this agenda at
>>>>> the CDC.
>>>> Evidence please.
>>>> > They are the ones that sit at the roundtable and tell the
>>>>> world what vaccines we need. And you expect me to read this???
>>>> Of course not.
>>>> You might learn something.
>>>> Jeff
>>>>> On May 25, 5:50 pm, Jeff <kidsdoc2...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Mercury.sailor wrote:
>>>>>>>> Vaccines save lives.
>>>>>>> Proove it with facts and graphs! Then I will believe you.
>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>> The information you request are at sites likewww.cdc.gov. Read their
>>>>>> recommendations and reports for the vaccines. They have lots of data
>>>>>> about the efficacy of the vaccines.
>>>>>> In addition, the CDC has this site that should help you:http://www.cdc.gov/nip/default.htm
>>>>>> Jeff- Hide quoted text -
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>>> Dr. Offit has been a member of the Centers for Disease Control's (CDC)
>>> Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. He is also an author and
>>> a consultant to pharmaceutical giant Merck, with whom he shares a
>>> rotavirus vaccine patent (number 353547). Dr. Offit has published more
>>> than 120 papers in medical and scientific journals in the areas of
>>> rotavirus-specific immune responses and vaccine safety and is the co-
>>> inventor of a rotavirus vaccine recently recommended for universal use
>>> in infants by the CDC.
>> Experts on the panels that help make determinations about the vaccines.
>> Excellent.
>>
>> Just because he has a patent (#5626851, not the number above;http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5626851.html) with Merck doesn't mean
>> he is not objective on matters of vaccination. I am sure he did not vote
>> on any matters involving Merck or his vaccine while he was on the committee.
>>
>> Jeff
>> Jeff- Hide quoted text -
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>
>
> Jeff,
>
> ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! What else can I say!
>
> Paul Offit, a member of the CDC advisory committee that determines
> which vaccines are recommended for use in the United States. How much
> money does he own in Pharmecutical stocks???

Ask him.

> You dont call this a
> conflict of intrest???

It depends. Did he vote on Merck interests while he was on the committee
and owned stock in Merck?

Had he voted on the vaccine, that would have been a conflict of interest.

> Sometimes I think you just post things to frustrate me!

;-)

Jeff

> Donna
>
>
From: Mark Probert on
Peter Bowditch wrote:

>> "Mark Probert" <markprobert(a)lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
>> news:YMf5i.12556$QP.37(a)trndny03...
>>> Kevysmom wrote:
>>>>>> Love is blind, and you sure do love Big Pharma.
>>>>> No. I detest the way big Pharma advertises to the general public and to
>>>>> docs.
>>>>
>>>> Wow, I am impressed with that comment!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Did you watch the documentray I had posted about aids coming from the
>>>> Polio Vaccine? It is scary. If you like I will repost it?
>>> I have a bridge from Brooklyn to Manhattan for sale. Interested?
>> You do not owe any bridge.
>
> Nobody could be that dumb. Nobody could be so out of touch with
> society's cliches to not recognise the allusion.

Actually, I do not *owe* any bridges. For that matter, I do not owe any
tunnels or the New Jersey Turnpike,

You see, I have an EZ Pass:

http://www.e-zpassny.com/
From: Mark Probert on
Kevysmom wrote:

> Mark you are a very sad person, I truly feel sorry for you.

Donna, I was just thinking the same thing. I have been hard on you for
no reason. I understand why you are so angry. You were pregnant for
ninemonths and expected a perfect child. Instead, you were given a child
who is less than perfect. I havemet many people who have been in your
circumstance before. They are angry and they blame themselves.

You do blame yourself. You may deny it, but your anger is based on your
taking the Rhogam shot and you believe that it caused your child's
problems. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Read this carefully:

Nothing you did caused your child's problems. NOTHING. Furthermore,
there was nothing you could have done to prevent your child's problems.
NOTHING.

Here is an article about a recent study that shows you have nothing to
feel guilty about:

Study Finds No Link Between Autism And Thimerosal In Vaccines
Science Daily � The increase in the number of diagnosed cases of autism
in recent years has sparked concern that environmental toxins may cause
this complex disorder. However, a new University of Missouri-Columbia
study concludes that exposure to Rh immune globulin preserved with
mercury-containing thimerosal before birth was no higher for children
with autism.


"This study adds to the evidence that there is no casual association
between thimerosal and childhood autism," said Judith Miles, who is the
William S. Thomson Endowed Chair of Autism and professor of pediatrics
and pathology in the MU School of Medicine. "We conclude that there is
no indication that pregnancies resulting in children with autism were
more likely to be complicated by Rh immune globulin/thimerosal exposure."

The study investigated thimerosal exposure during pregnancies that
resulted in the birth of a child subsequently diagnosed with autism.
Although experts anticipate that autism will be the first
behavioral/psychiatric disorder for which major genes will be
identified, there is still fierce debate that thimerosal, a preservative
commonly used in vaccines and is almost 50 percent ethylmercury, is
responsible for the rise in the disorder. Rh negative women are
routinely treated with Rh immune globulin (RhIg) during the third
trimester to prevent hemolytic disease, in which the mother's immune
system attacks fetal blood cells. Like many vaccines, RhIg manufactured
in the United States contained thimerosal prior to 2001. Since young
fetal brains are more susceptible to neurotoxic effects, researchers led
by Miles, of the MU Thompson Center for Autism and Neurodevelopmental
Disorders, assessed Rh status and thimerosal exposure of mothers of
children with autism.

The study included 214 mothers of 230 children diagnosed with an autism
spectrum disorder. Rh status, RhIg with thimerosal exposure and Rh
incompatibility (in which the mother's Rh status is different than the
fetus's) were established by reviewing medical records. The results
showed that in children with autism, Rh negative status was no higher in
their mothers than in the general population, that exposure to RhIg
(preserved with thimerosal) before birth was no higher and that
pregnancies were not more likely to be Rh incompatible.

"We hope this report of no association between autism, Rh negativity and
thimerosal exposure during pregnancy will offset some of the decreased
compliance with immunization recommendations which is known to increase
morbidity and mortality from childhood infectious diseases," Miles said.

Autism diagnoses have increased significantly during the past two
decades, which coincides temporally with the addition of five pediatric
vaccines to the immunization schedule, exposing children to increasing
doses of ethylmercury, a known toxin. Though the vast majority of
studies indicate no association between vaccines and autism, the FDA,
CDC and American Academy of Pediatrics recommended that thimerosal be
removed from all routinely recommended early childhood vaccines; this
was accomplished by 2002.

Miles points out that even though RhIg and childhood vaccines are now
free of thimerosal in the United States, it is important to analyze
questions of safety since thimerosal continues to be used in many places
around the world to preserve vaccines to help make them affordable.

Miles said that few studies have focused on pregnancies of Rh negative
mothers who received RhIg during pregnancy, probably because the
thimerosal is diluted before reaching the fetus and has been assumed to
be innocuous. Nevertheless, there is a concern that even very small
doses delivered when the brain is especially sensitive can be toxic.
Numerous Internet sites and one research study assert that RhIg causes
autism and that a high percentage of mothers of children with autism are
Rh negative, neither of which was shown to be true in the current study.
In addition, a recent study hypothesized that Rh incompatibility itself
could disrupt fetal neurodevelopment, thus playing a role in autism, but
the current study found no increase in the proportion of Rh
incompatibility in mothers of autistic children. In response to the
claim that only certain groups of children are at risk, the authors also
analyzed specific autism spectrum disorder subgroups and found that none
had significant increases in either Rh negativity or thimerosal exposure
during pregnancy.

The study -- "Lack of Association Between Rh Status, Rh Immune Globulin
in Pregnancy and Autism" -- was published in the May 2007 issue of the
American Journal of Medical Genetics.

Note: This story has been adapted from a news release issued by
University of Missouri-Columbia.

---

You have nothing to be angry about. Put it behind you and get on with
being a great parent.

Remember, our children feel our anger.


From: Mark Probert on
Kevysmom wrote:

> Mark you are a very sad person, I truly feel sorry for you.

Donna, I was just thinking the same thing. I have been hard on you for
no reason. I understand why you are so angry. You were pregnant for
ninemonths and expected a perfect child. Instead, you were given a child
who is less than perfect. I have met many people who have been in your
circumstance before. They are angry and they blame themselves.

You do blame yourself. You may deny it, but your anger is based on your
taking the Homogamy shot and you believe that it caused your child's
problems. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Read this carefully:

Nothing you did caused your child's problems. NOTHING. Furthermore,
there was nothing you could have done to prevent your child's problems.
NOTHING.

Here is an article about a recent study that shows you have nothing to
feel guilty about:

Study Finds No Link Between Autism And Thimerosal In Vaccines
Science Daily � The increase in the number of diagnosed cases of autism
in recent years has sparked concern that environmental toxins may cause
this complex disorder. However, a new University of Missouri-Columbia
study concludes that exposure to Rh immune globulin preserved with
mercury-containing thimerosal before birth was no higher for children
with autism.


"This study adds to the evidence that there is no casual association
between thimerosal and childhood autism," said Judith Miles, who is the
William S. Thomson Endowed Chair of Autism and professor of pediatrics
and pathology in the MU School of Medicine. "We conclude that there is
no indication that pregnancies resulting in children with autism were
more likely to be complicated by Rh immune globulin/thimerosal exposure."

The study investigated thimerosal exposure during pregnancies that
resulted in the birth of a child subsequently diagnosed with autism.
Although experts anticipate that autism will be the first
behavioral/psychiatric disorder for which major genes will be
identified, there is still fierce debate that thimerosal, a preservative
commonly used in vaccines and is almost 50 percent ethylmercury, is
responsible for the rise in the disorder. Rh negative women are
routinely treated with Rh immune globulin (RhIg) during the third
trimester to prevent hemolytic disease, in which the mother's immune
system attacks fetal blood cells. Like many vaccines, RhIg manufactured
in the United States contained thimerosal prior to 2001. Since young
fetal brains are more susceptible to neurotoxic effects, researchers led
by Miles, of the MU Thompson Center for Autism and Neurodevelopmental
Disorders, assessed Rh status and thimerosal exposure of mothers of
children with autism.

The study included 214 mothers of 230 children diagnosed with an autism
spectrum disorder. Rh status, RhIg with thimerosal exposure and Rh
incompatibility (in which the mother's Rh status is different than the
fetus's) were established by reviewing medical records. The results
showed that in children with autism, Rh negative status was no higher in
their mothers than in the general population, that exposure to RhIg
(preserved with thimerosal) before birth was no higher and that
pregnancies were not more likely to be Rh incompatible.

"We hope this report of no association between autism, Rh negativity and
thimerosal exposure during pregnancy will offset some of the decreased
compliance with immunization recommendations which is known to increase
morbidity and mortality from childhood infectious diseases," Miles said.

Autism diagnoses have increased significantly during the past two
decades, which coincides temporally with the addition of five pediatric
vaccines to the immunization schedule, exposing children to increasing
doses of ethylmercury, a known toxin. Though the vast majority of
studies indicate no association between vaccines and autism, the FDA,
CDC and American Academy of Pediatrics recommended that thimerosal be
removed from all routinely recommended early childhood vaccines; this
was accomplished by 2002.

Miles points out that even though RhIg and childhood vaccines are now
free of thimerosal in the United States, it is important to analyze
questions of safety since thimerosal continues to be used in many places
around the world to preserve vaccines to help make them affordable.

Miles said that few studies have focused on pregnancies of Rh negative
mothers who received RhIg during pregnancy, probably because the
thimerosal is diluted before reaching the fetus and has been assumed to
be innocuous. Nevertheless, there is a concern that even very small
doses delivered when the brain is especially sensitive can be toxic.
Numerous Internet sites and one research study assert that RhIg causes
autism and that a high percentage of mothers of children with autism are
Rh negative, neither of which was shown to be true in the current study.
In addition, a recent study hypothesized that Rh incompatibility itself
could disrupt fetal neurodevelopment, thus playing a role in autism, but
the current study found no increase in the proportion of Rh
incompatibility in mothers of autistic children. In response to the
claim that only certain groups of children are at risk, the authors also
analyzed specific autism spectrum disorder subgroups and found that none
had significant increases in either Rh negativity or thimerosal exposure
during pregnancy.

The study -- "Lack of Association Between Rh Status, Rh Immune Globulin
in Pregnancy and Autism" -- was published in the May 2007 issue of the
American Journal of Medical Genetics.

Note: This story has been adapted from a news release issued by
University of Missouri-Columbia.

---

You have nothing to be angry about. Put it behind you and get on with
being a great parent.

Remember, our children feel our anger.


From: Mark Probert on
Mercury.sailor wrote:
>> There is a risk with everything we do or not do.
>>
>> The benefits of vaccines far outweigh the risks, IMHO.
>
>
> That is your opinion, and you are entitled to it. But facts are facts
> and
> the facts are diseases were almost completely diminished before mass
> production of vaccines. Dont give vaccines credit where its not due.
>
> Have you watched on you tube about AIDS and the Polio Vaccine yet??
>
> Here it is again. After you watch it lets Debate Jeff.

Note that the prevalence of polio was fairly steady prior to the
introduction of the vaccine. Now, the US is polio free, except for those
who import it.