From: Chris on
On Aug 13, 9:22�am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 12, 6:07�pm, Chris <chrissype...(a)aol.com> wrote:
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> > On Aug 12, 9:27 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Aug 11, 10:33 pm, Chris <chrissype...(a)aol.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Aug 7, 3:32 pm, Myrl <wisgroup_lea...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On Aug 7, 9:36 am, "JOHN" <j...(a)nospam.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > "Myrl" <wisgroup_lea...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > > > > >news:68ad0b29-db73-4702-be80-451931b9d31c(a)a21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > > And sadly, while reporting these few incidents, in the midst of their
> > > > > > hystrionics, anti-vac folks won't address the 250,000 - 290,000 women
> > > > > > who die globally each year from Cervical Cancer. Nor do they speak
> > > > > > about the millions that require treatment for other HPV related
> > > > > > disease, such as genital warts, certain oral cancers, etc.
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> > > > > >http://www.whale.to/vaccines/gardasil_h.html
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> > > > > Hmmmm! "whale.com" - Now that's a "reliable" source of scientific
> > > > > study. . .LOL!
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> > > > Look it up in VAERS yourself. My niece happens to not be afraid of
> > > > needles or vaccines and still passed out.
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> > > One does not need to be afraid of needles, etc. to have a
> > > physiological reaction to a vaccination, or even just a plain
> > > injection. It is a fairly common reaction, and even has a medical name
> > > that I cannot recall. It can even mimic a seizure, thus causing a
> > > report to VAERS.
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> > > Doctors should never give any vaccination, or injection, to a person
> > > who is standing up. When I get my flu shot, there are several chairs
> > > where the nurses tell people to sit for five to ten minutes.- Hide quoted text -
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> > That's funny because my kids get their shots and out the door we go,
> > they sit on my lap or lay down with arms and legs held down, and off
> > we go, with them walking out on their own.-
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Right, because it must be a regional thing?
From: Chris on
On Aug 13, 9:23�am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 12, 6:09�pm, Chris <chrissype...(a)aol.com> wrote:
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> > On Aug 12, 9:46 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Aug 12, 9:27 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Aug 11, 10:33 pm, Chris <chrissype...(a)aol.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On Aug 7, 3:32 pm, Myrl <wisgroup_lea...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > On Aug 7, 9:36 am, "JOHN" <j...(a)nospam.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > "Myrl" <wisgroup_lea...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > > > > > >news:68ad0b29-db73-4702-be80-451931b9d31c(a)a21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > > > And sadly, while reporting these few incidents, in the midst of their
> > > > > > > hystrionics, anti-vac folks won't address the 250,000 - 290,000 women
> > > > > > > who die globally each year from Cervical Cancer. Nor do they speak
> > > > > > > about the millions that require treatment for other HPV related
> > > > > > > disease, such as genital warts, certain oral cancers, etc.
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> > > > > > >http://www.whale.to/vaccines/gardasil_h.html
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> > > > > > Hmmmm! "whale.com" - Now that's a "reliable" source of scientific
> > > > > > study. . .LOL!
>
> > > > > Look it up in VAERS yourself. My niece happens to not be afraid of
> > > > > needles or vaccines and still passed out.
>
> > > > One does not need to be afraid of needles, etc. to have a
> > > > physiological reaction to a vaccination, or even just a plain
> > > > injection. It is a fairly common reaction, and even has a medical name
> > > > that I cannot recall.
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> > > Vasovagal syncope
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> > >http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/vasovagal-syncope/DS00806
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> > > It can even mimic a seizure, thus causing a
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> > > > report to VAERS.
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> > > > Doctors should never give any vaccination, or injection, to a person
> > > > who is standing up. When I get my flu shot, there are several chairs
> > > > where the nurses tell people to sit for five to ten minutes.- Hide quoted text -
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> > The mere definition of vasovagal syncope infers there is stress
> > involved resulting in the drop in blood pressure
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> The stress of getting an injection. Kids feel stress for the strangest
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Yes, I know. That would be different than a side effect, correct?
From: Jan Drew on

"Mark Probert" <mark.probert(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1b789e23-8918-4738-be7f-3853188e29e2(a)m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 12, 6:07 pm, Chris <chrissype...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> On Aug 12, 9:27 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Aug 11, 10:33 pm, Chris <chrissype...(a)aol.com> wrote:
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> > > On Aug 7, 3:32 pm, Myrl <wisgroup_lea...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Aug 7, 9:36 am, "JOHN" <j...(a)nospam.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > "Myrl" <wisgroup_lea...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > >news:68ad0b29-db73-4702-be80-451931b9d31c(a)a21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > And sadly, while reporting these few incidents, in the midst of
> > > > > their
> > > > > hystrionics, anti-vac folks won't address the 250,000 - 290,000
> > > > > women
> > > > > who die globally each year from Cervical Cancer. Nor do they speak
> > > > > about the millions that require treatment for other HPV related
> > > > > disease, such as genital warts, certain oral cancers, etc.
>
> > > > >http://www.whale.to/vaccines/gardasil_h.html
>
> > > > Hmmmm! "whale.com" - Now that's a "reliable" source of scientific
> > > > study. . .LOL!
>
> > > Look it up in VAERS yourself. My niece happens to not be afraid of
> > > needles or vaccines and still passed out.
>
> > One does not need to be afraid of needles, etc. to have a
> > physiological reaction to a vaccination, or even just a plain
> > injection. It is a fairly common reaction, and even has a medical name
> > that I cannot recall. It can even mimic a seizure, thus causing a
> > report to VAERS.
>
> > Doctors should never give any vaccination, or injection, to a person
> > who is standing up. When I get my flu shot, there are several chairs
> > where the nurses tell people to sit for five to ten minutes.- Hide
> > quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
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> That's funny because my kids get their shots and out the door we go,
> they sit on my lap or lay down with arms and legs held down, and off
> we go, with them walking out on their own.-

Update your doctor.

The main problem with kids getting shots is the fact some parents tell
them *it is not going to hurt*.

I always told mine, *it will hurt for a very short time*, then it is over.
They learned this and did not fuss. I always rewarded them.

Where - as - the parents who told their kids it would not hurt
threw screaming fits. It took several office staff and nurses to
get them through the door.

From: Jan Drew on

"Chris" <chrissypete2(a)aol.com> wrote in message
news:e02a77bb-8de6-4580-9a5b-e9dde3f38be5(a)j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 13, 12:22�am, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> "Mark Probert" <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Aug 7, 9:36 am, "JOHN" <j...(a)nospam.com> wrote:
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> http://www.whale.to/vaccines/gardasil_h.html
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> > Look it up in VAERS yourself. My niece happens to not be afraid of
> > needles or vaccines and still passed out.
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> �*When I get my flu shot, there are several chairs
> where the nurses tell people to sit for five to ten minutes.*
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> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.attn-deficit/msg/b47238df1...
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> Anecdotes are not facts. They are, at best interesting stories. At
> worst, outright lies.

Oh, I should probably clarify that she passed out a day or so later
afterward....first time and last time so far since. She didn't finish
this particular series.

Ok, Chris. MHA should be a place to share personal experiences.
However, the *gang* ( Mark Probert) in this case posts many anecdotes, but
when others do it, this is one
of the things he posts.

From: JOHN on
CNN Reports on 9,749 Adverse Gardasil Reactions
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_13plsrydPY