From: D. C. Sessions on
In message <b452583c-33bb-4ec0-8812-be90bd12293c(a)f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, Chris wrote:
> On Aug 12, 9:27?am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>> One does not need to be afraid of needles, etc. to have a
>> physiological reaction to a vaccination, or even just a plain
>> injection. It is a fairly common reaction, and even has a medical name
>> that I cannot recall. It can even mimic a seizure, thus causing a
>> report to VAERS.
>>
>> Doctors should never give any vaccination, or injection, to a person
>> who is standing up. When I get my flu shot, there are several chairs
>> where the nurses tell people to sit for five to ten minutes.- Hide quoted text -
>
> That's funny because my kids get their shots and out the door we go,
> they sit on my lap or lay down with arms and legs held down, and off
> we go, with them walking out on their own.

Sure -- lots of people get shots with all the fuss of buttoning
a shirt; I'm one of them. Similarly, lots of people aren't
bothered by the sight of blood, theirs or others'; again I'm
one. Lots and lots and lots of people eat peanuts without
the slightest problem.

However, that doesn't mean that peanut allergy doesn't exist,
nor that there aren't people who faint at the sight of blood,
nor that there aren't people who don't take shots well. It's
the difference between disproving a universal assertion and
proving its converse.

--
| The brighter the stupid burns, the more |
| chance that someone will see the light. |
+- D. C. Sessions <dcs(a)lumbercartel.com> -+
From: Mark Probert on
On Aug 12, 6:07 pm, Chris <chrissype...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> On Aug 12, 9:27 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 11, 10:33 pm, Chris <chrissype...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 7, 3:32 pm, Myrl <wisgroup_lea...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Aug 7, 9:36 am, "JOHN" <j...(a)nospam.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > "Myrl" <wisgroup_lea...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > >news:68ad0b29-db73-4702-be80-451931b9d31c(a)a21g2000prf.googlegroups..com...
> > > > > And sadly, while reporting these few incidents, in the midst of their
> > > > > hystrionics, anti-vac folks won't address the 250,000 - 290,000 women
> > > > > who die globally each year from Cervical Cancer. Nor do they speak
> > > > > about the millions that require treatment for other HPV related
> > > > > disease, such as genital warts, certain oral cancers, etc.
>
> > > > >http://www.whale.to/vaccines/gardasil_h.html
>
> > > > Hmmmm! "whale.com" - Now that's a "reliable" source of scientific
> > > > study. . .LOL!
>
> > > Look it up in VAERS yourself. My niece happens to not be afraid of
> > > needles or vaccines and still passed out.
>
> > One does not need to be afraid of needles, etc. to have a
> > physiological reaction to a vaccination, or even just a plain
> > injection. It is a fairly common reaction, and even has a medical name
> > that I cannot recall. It can even mimic a seizure, thus causing a
> > report to VAERS.
>
> > Doctors should never give any vaccination, or injection, to a person
> > who is standing up. When I get my flu shot, there are several chairs
> > where the nurses tell people to sit for five to ten minutes.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> That's funny because my kids get their shots and out the door we go,
> they sit on my lap or lay down with arms and legs held down, and off
> we go, with them walking out on their own.-

Update your doctor.
From: Mark Probert on
On Aug 12, 6:09 pm, Chris <chrissype...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> On Aug 12, 9:46 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 12, 9:27 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 11, 10:33 pm, Chris <chrissype...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Aug 7, 3:32 pm, Myrl <wisgroup_lea...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Aug 7, 9:36 am, "JOHN" <j...(a)nospam.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > "Myrl" <wisgroup_lea...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > > >news:68ad0b29-db73-4702-be80-451931b9d31c(a)a21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > > And sadly, while reporting these few incidents, in the midst of their
> > > > > > hystrionics, anti-vac folks won't address the 250,000 - 290,000 women
> > > > > > who die globally each year from Cervical Cancer. Nor do they speak
> > > > > > about the millions that require treatment for other HPV related
> > > > > > disease, such as genital warts, certain oral cancers, etc.
>
> > > > > >http://www.whale.to/vaccines/gardasil_h.html
>
> > > > > Hmmmm! "whale.com" - Now that's a "reliable" source of scientific
> > > > > study. . .LOL!
>
> > > > Look it up in VAERS yourself. My niece happens to not be afraid of
> > > > needles or vaccines and still passed out.
>
> > > One does not need to be afraid of needles, etc. to have a
> > > physiological reaction to a vaccination, or even just a plain
> > > injection. It is a fairly common reaction, and even has a medical name
> > > that I cannot recall.
>
> > Vasovagal syncope
>
> >http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/vasovagal-syncope/DS00806
>
> > It can even mimic a seizure, thus causing a
>
> > > report to VAERS.
>
> > > Doctors should never give any vaccination, or injection, to a person
> > > who is standing up. When I get my flu shot, there are several chairs
> > > where the nurses tell people to sit for five to ten minutes.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
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> The mere definition of vasovagal syncope infers there is stress
> involved resulting in the drop in blood pressure

The stress of getting an injection. Kids feel stress for the strangest
things.
From: Coleah on
On Aug 13, 8:23 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 12, 6:09 pm, Chris <chrissype...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 12, 9:46 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 12, 9:27 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Aug 11, 10:33 pm, Chris <chrissype...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Aug 7, 3:32 pm, Myrl <wisgroup_lea...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Aug 7, 9:36 am, "JOHN" <j...(a)nospam.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > "Myrl" <wisgroup_lea...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > > > >news:68ad0b29-db73-4702-be80-451931b9d31c(a)a21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > > > And sadly, while reporting these few incidents, in the midst of their
> > > > > > > hystrionics, anti-vac folks won't address the 250,000 - 290,000 women
> > > > > > > who die globally each year from Cervical Cancer. Nor do they speak
> > > > > > > about the millions that require treatment for other HPV related
> > > > > > > disease, such as genital warts, certain oral cancers, etc.
>
> > > > > > >http://www.whale.to/vaccines/gardasil_h.html
>
> > > > > > Hmmmm! "whale.com" - Now that's a "reliable" source of scientific
> > > > > > study. . .LOL!
>
> > > > > Look it up in VAERS yourself. My niece happens to not be afraid of
> > > > > needles or vaccines and still passed out.
>
> > > > One does not need to be afraid of needles, etc. to have a
> > > > physiological reaction to a vaccination, or even just a plain
> > > > injection. It is a fairly common reaction, and even has a medical name
> > > > that I cannot recall.
>
> > > Vasovagal syncope
>
> > >http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/vasovagal-syncope/DS00806
>
> > > It can even mimic a seizure, thus causing a
>
> > > > report to VAERS.
>
> > > > Doctors should never give any vaccination, or injection, to a person
> > > > who is standing up. When I get my flu shot, there are several chairs
> > > > where the nurses tell people to sit for five to ten minutes.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > The mere definition of vasovagal syncope infers there is stress
> > involved resulting in the drop in blood pressure
>
> The stress of getting an injection. Kids feel stress for the strangest
> things.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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> The stress of getting an injection. Kids feel stress for the strangest
> things.

Boy, isn't that the truth. I was attending a drawing for a new TV set
with my daughter when she was about 14. She wanted that TV so bad
that just before they announced the winner, she out of her chair onto
the floor and appeared to be having a seizure. That prompted doctor
visits to see what was going on with her and it turned out to be
nothing more than 'the vapors'.

Interestingly enough, during that time I shared that experience with
many women who confessed to the same kind of fainting spells when they
were teenagers. They said they out grew it, but at the time I was in
a panic that my child had some affliction that was lifetime serious.

With these particular injections, which are recommended for girls
'before' they become sexually active.....I can't help but wonder how
many girls are hiding that they actually already have been sexually
active, and that causes some internal overwhelm.

From: Chris on
On Aug 13, 12:22�am, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> "Mark Probert" <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Aug 7, 9:36 am, "JOHN" <j...(a)nospam.com> wrote:
>
> http://www.whale.to/vaccines/gardasil_h.html
>
>
>
> > Look it up in VAERS yourself. My niece happens to not be afraid of
> > needles or vaccines and still passed out.
>
> �*When I get my flu shot, there are several chairs
> where the nurses tell people to sit for five to ten minutes.*
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.attn-deficit/msg/b47238df1...
>
> Anecdotes are not facts. They are, at best interesting stories. At
> worst, outright lies.

Oh, I should probably clarify that she passed out a day or so later
afterward....first time and last time so far since. She didn't finish
this particular series.