From: Chris on
On Aug 7, 11:21�am, Myrl <wisgroup_lea...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 7, 6:11�am, Coleah <col...(a)pacifier.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > I do hope that by posting this you are not claiming this girl's
> > Epilepsy was a direct 'reaction' to Gardasil vaccine.
>
> > Many (delicate flower) girls faint from injections (or blood tests for
> > that matter). �Aside from injections, some girls are taken to
> > headaches and �fainting spells at times of phychological stress.. �It
> > used to be referred to as 'the Vapors'.
>
> > Soreness at an injection site is not an unusual reaction. �Ten years
> > of study done. �Followup reports provide no proof of Gardasil being a
> > direct cause for incidental health issues (such as a case of
> > Epilepsy) .
>
> > I'm not sure how many of these incidental reports involved receiving
> > multiple vaccinations at the same time. �My boot camp memories of
> > getting multiple vaccinations were of walking in a line, receiving air-
> > gun type injections in both arms, simultaneously....and then we 'ran'
> > out a door and down a flight of stairs. �A couple of 'delicate
> > flowers' did faint on the way down the stairs.
>
> > It is wonderful that followup's are being tracked and analyzed, but
> > IMHO there is nothing being reported that should strike fear in the
> > hearts of man. � Except for the very nervous and angry "fear-mongers".
>
> And sadly, while reporting these few incidents, in the midst of their
> hystrionics, anti-vac folks won't address the 250,000 - 290,000 women
> who die globally each year from Cervical Cancer. �Nor do they speak
> about the millions that require treatment for other HPV related
> disease, such as genital warts, certain oral cancers, etc.
>
> They are so focused on their fear mongering, that they can't see the
> proverbial forest, for the trees.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

No, they just choose to not be part of the ongoing clinical trials the
first 5 years out of the gate. As for the numbers of those you quote
above, how many qualify as those the vaccine is made precisely for --
those who don't have regular Pap smears and hadn't had one in the last
5 years or longer?
From: Chris on
On Aug 7, 3:32�pm, Myrl <wisgroup_lea...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 7, 9:36�am, "JOHN" <j...(a)nospam.com> wrote:
>
> > "Myrl" <wisgroup_lea...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:68ad0b29-db73-4702-be80-451931b9d31c(a)a21g2000prf.googlegroups.com....
> > And sadly, while reporting these few incidents, in the midst of their
> > hystrionics, anti-vac folks won't address the 250,000 - 290,000 women
> > who die globally each year from Cervical Cancer. �Nor do they speak
> > about the millions that require treatment for other HPV related
> > disease, such as genital warts, certain oral cancers, etc.
>
> >http://www.whale.to/vaccines/gardasil_h.html
>
> Hmmmm! �"whale.com" - Now that's a "reliable" source of scientific
> study. . .LOL!

Look it up in VAERS yourself. My niece happens to not be afraid of
needles or vaccines and still passed out.
From: Chris on
On Aug 7, 9:11�am, Coleah <col...(a)pacifier.com> wrote:
> On Aug 7, 4:51�am, "JOHN" <j...(a)nospam.com> wrote:
>
> > Girls report severe reactions to Gardasil vaccine July 10th, 2008 Katherine
> > Kimzey, 14, talks about suffering seizures, fainting, headaches and
> > stiffness after her second dose of Gardasil. Girls and women around the
> > country have reported severe reactions to the vaccine designed to protect
> > against the human papillomavirus and cervical cancer.http://www.whas11.com/video/index.html?nvid=262209
>
> > [June 2008] HPV vaccine's suspected side effects cause concern; CDC says
> > drug is safehttp://www.whale.to/vaccine/hpv_vaccine1.html
>
> > Katherine Kimzey started suffering debilitating headaches, fainting spells
> > and arthritis-like stiffness last November. Six weeks later, the 14-year-old
> > Dallas resident became so dizzy she could barely walk. She was hospitalized
> > and missed three weeks of school. Then, she had a seizure. For weeks, she
> > bounced back and forth between specialists and was eventually diagnosed with
> > epilepsy.
>
> ====================
>
> I do hope that by posting this you are not claiming this girl's
> Epilepsy was a direct 'reaction' to Gardasil vaccine.
>
> Many (delicate flower) girls faint from injections (or blood tests for
> that matter). �Aside from injections, some girls are taken to
> headaches and �fainting spells at times of phychological stress. �It
> used to be referred to as 'the Vapors'.
>
> Soreness at an injection site is not an unusual reaction. �Ten years
> of study done. �Followup reports provide no proof of Gardasil being a
> direct cause for incidental health issues (such as a case of
> Epilepsy) .
>
> I'm not sure how many of these incidental reports involved receiving
> multiple vaccinations at the same time. �My boot camp memories of
> getting multiple vaccinations were of walking in a line, receiving air-
> gun type injections in both arms, simultaneously....and then we 'ran'
> out a door and down a flight of stairs. �A couple of 'delicate
> flowers' did faint on the way down the stairs.
>
> It is wonderful that followup's are being tracked and analyzed, but
> IMHO there is nothing being reported that should strike fear in the
> hearts of man. � Except for the very nervous and angry "fear-mongers".

Have you noticed the special precautions listed on various pro-sites
for this vaccine indicating syncope is common and the patient should
be required to remain seated for a certain length of time? What other
vaccines are accompanied by such a request? If it were ONLY because of
the patient's potential fear/stress, they would be required to be
seated/lying down for ALL vaccines.
From: Mark Probert on
On Aug 11, 10:33 pm, Chris <chrissype...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> On Aug 7, 3:32 pm, Myrl <wisgroup_lea...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Aug 7, 9:36 am, "JOHN" <j...(a)nospam.com> wrote:
>
> > > "Myrl" <wisgroup_lea...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:68ad0b29-db73-4702-be80-451931b9d31c(a)a21g2000prf.googlegroups.com....
> > > And sadly, while reporting these few incidents, in the midst of their
> > > hystrionics, anti-vac folks won't address the 250,000 - 290,000 women
> > > who die globally each year from Cervical Cancer. Nor do they speak
> > > about the millions that require treatment for other HPV related
> > > disease, such as genital warts, certain oral cancers, etc.
>
> > >http://www.whale.to/vaccines/gardasil_h.html
>
> > Hmmmm! "whale.com" - Now that's a "reliable" source of scientific
> > study. . .LOL!
>
> Look it up in VAERS yourself. My niece happens to not be afraid of
> needles or vaccines and still passed out.

One does not need to be afraid of needles, etc. to have a
physiological reaction to a vaccination, or even just a plain
injection. It is a fairly common reaction, and even has a medical name
that I cannot recall. It can even mimic a seizure, thus causing a
report to VAERS.

Doctors should never give any vaccination, or injection, to a person
who is standing up. When I get my flu shot, there are several chairs
where the nurses tell people to sit for five to ten minutes.
From: Mark Probert on
On Aug 11, 10:36 pm, Chris <chrissype...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> On Aug 7, 9:11 am, Coleah <col...(a)pacifier.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 7, 4:51 am, "JOHN" <j...(a)nospam.com> wrote:
>
> > > Girls report severe reactions to Gardasil vaccine July 10th, 2008 Katherine
> > > Kimzey, 14, talks about suffering seizures, fainting, headaches and
> > > stiffness after her second dose of Gardasil. Girls and women around the
> > > country have reported severe reactions to the vaccine designed to protect
> > > against the human papillomavirus and cervical cancer.http://www.whas11.com/video/index.html?nvid=262209
>
> > > [June 2008] HPV vaccine's suspected side effects cause concern; CDC says
> > > drug is safehttp://www.whale.to/vaccine/hpv_vaccine1.html
>
> > > Katherine Kimzey started suffering debilitating headaches, fainting spells
> > > and arthritis-like stiffness last November. Six weeks later, the 14-year-old
> > > Dallas resident became so dizzy she could barely walk. She was hospitalized
> > > and missed three weeks of school. Then, she had a seizure. For weeks, she
> > > bounced back and forth between specialists and was eventually diagnosed with
> > > epilepsy.
>
> > ====================
>
> > I do hope that by posting this you are not claiming this girl's
> > Epilepsy was a direct 'reaction' to Gardasil vaccine.
>
> > Many (delicate flower) girls faint from injections (or blood tests for
> > that matter). Aside from injections, some girls are taken to
> > headaches and fainting spells at times of phychological stress. It
> > used to be referred to as 'the Vapors'.
>
> > Soreness at an injection site is not an unusual reaction. Ten years
> > of study done. Followup reports provide no proof of Gardasil being a
> > direct cause for incidental health issues (such as a case of
> > Epilepsy) .
>
> > I'm not sure how many of these incidental reports involved receiving
> > multiple vaccinations at the same time. My boot camp memories of
> > getting multiple vaccinations were of walking in a line, receiving air-
> > gun type injections in both arms, simultaneously....and then we 'ran'
> > out a door and down a flight of stairs. A couple of 'delicate
> > flowers' did faint on the way down the stairs.
>
> > It is wonderful that followup's are being tracked and analyzed, but
> > IMHO there is nothing being reported that should strike fear in the
> > hearts of man. Except for the very nervous and angry "fear-mongers".
>
> Have you noticed the special precautions listed on various pro-sites
> for this vaccine indicating syncope is common and the patient should
> be required to remain seated for a certain length of time? What other
> vaccines are accompanied by such a request? If it were ONLY because of
> the patient's potential fear/stress, they would be required to be
> seated/lying down for ALL vaccines

I get the same instructions after my flu shot.