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> Peter B. wrote:
>> "David" <me(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> Peter B. wrote:
>>>> "john" <nospam(a)bt.com> wrote in message
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>>>>> http://women.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> Krystal's story (Australia) as told by her mother Alison (As this
>>>>> story is posted, Krystal is in hospital after she fainted again today
>>>>> after two months of being OK)
>>>>>
>>>> As Jan would tell you, hearsay is just that, worthless and
>>>> unsubstantianted.
>>>>
>>>> No proof of cause, all pure conjecture. It does not help anyone, but it
>>>> can help generate unsubstantiated fears.
>>>>
>>>> None of the Dr.'s found it was related to Gardasil in any way.
>>> Would that be the Doctors that give it to people? How surprising!
>>
>> No, it wasn't the same Doctors. Why do you cling to unsubstaniated rumors
>> for your "truth"? Afraid of reality? Why do you self medicate? Have you
>> abused your body once too much?
> Do you mean to say that "those" doctors did not ever give it to any other
> people? That they had no bias? How could that be? If they were doctors,
> then it is a given that they support vaccines.

Are you really that ignorant? I know many specialists who give no vaccines.
Like brain surgeons. Usually it is the nurse that gives the vacccine


From: Mark Probert on
On May 15, 4:15 pm, David <m...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Peter B. wrote:
> > "David" <m...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> >> Peter B. wrote:
> >>> "john" <nos...(a)bt.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:PLSdnVb4Jri3I3DWnZ2dnUVZ8iWdnZ2d(a)bt.com...
> >>>>http://women.com/
>
> >>>> Krystal's story (Australia) as told by her mother Alison (As this story
> >>>> is posted, Krystal is in hospital after she fainted again today after
> >>>> two months of being OK)
>
> >>> As Jan would tell you, hearsay is just that, worthless and
> >>> unsubstantianted.
>
> >>> No proof of cause, all pure conjecture. It does not help anyone, but it
> >>> can help generate unsubstantiated fears.
>
> >>> None of the Dr.'s found it was related to Gardasil in any way.
> >>  Would that be the Doctors that give it to people? How surprising!
>
> > No, it wasn't the same Doctors. Why do you cling to unsubstaniated rumors
> > for your "truth"? Afraid of reality? Why do you self medicate? Have you
> > abused your body once too much?
>
>   Do you mean to say that "those" doctors did not ever give it to any
> other people? That they had no bias? How could that be? If they were
> doctors, then it is a given that they support vaccines.-

I can readily prove that wrong by naming one doctor who does not
support vaccines.

Doctor of Business, Joe Mercola.
Dr. Jay Gordon

Now, back to your drawing board and use some crayons to get the
picture.

From: Jan Drew on
On May 14, 6:12�pm, "Peter B." <.@.> wrote:
> "john" <nos...(a)bt.com> wrote in message
>
> news:PLSdnVb4Jri3I3DWnZ2dnUVZ8iWdnZ2d(a)bt.com...
>
> >http://women.com/

Thanks for showing your total dishonesty.

http://womenhurtbymedicine.wordpress.com/

Krystal's story (Australia) as told by her mother Alison (As this
story is
posted, Krystal is in hospital after she fainted again today after
two
months of being OK)
May 14, 2010 by Gertrude Green


In November 2008, my 17 year old daughter Krystal passed out at home
for the
first time ever (only for a matter of seconds). After a trip to the
Emergency Department we were told that this happens to a lot of
teenage
girls and it wasn't anything unusual. By January 2009, Krystal was
passing
out nearly everyday and I was having to pick her up from school (on
the days
she still went) by lunch time.


We were sent to a cardiologist in Wollongong who sent us to his
colleague at
the Royal Prince Alfred (RPA) hospital in Sydney. After having many
heart
monitors attached and a EPS (Electrophysiology Study of the heart )
plus
Echo scans and many days' stays in Cardiology wards we were told that
there
was nothing wrong with her heart. We then went through the same
process with
the Neurology side of things and were given the all clear, although a
specialist at Wollongong hospital still believes it may be fits coming
from
the centre of her brain that weren't picked up while others think that
it
could still be her heart . nobody knows.


By Feb/March Krystal was passing out everyday; sometimes twice (the
average
time she was unconscious was half an hour). She was bedridden, if we
tried
to take her out she had to be in a wheelchair but even that was to
much for
her. Obviously, she had to leave school (year 11) and her part time
job at
Bakers Delight that she had held from the time she turned 14.


On Tuesday 23 February 2010 we saw yet another specialist at the RPA
who
believes Krystal may have a Post Viral Disorder. When Krystal
mentioned in
passing the Cervical Cancer Vaccine and the fact that this all
started
during the vaccinations, the doctor agreed that its very likely
Krystal has
had some sort of reaction to them. I could not believe it. After all
this
time this is the first time that somebody has taken the Gardasil
vaccination
on board and seen them as a link to what's been happening to our
daughter.
When we first asked our GP if there could be a connection he dismissed
it so
quickly that I felt silly for asking.
Some of Krystal's symptoms included: Passing out, Headaches/
Migraines,
Nausea, Poor circulation, Light intolerance, Feelings of hot and
cold,
blurred vision (usually with the headaches), Irregular heart beat and
general physical weakness. All of this in a bright, healthy,
independent,
social, happy teenage girl with no prior illness!


As for our home life we quickly got to a stage where we realised that
it was
to dangerous for Krystal to walk anywhere by herself and somebody had
to be
with her at all times she was on her feet for fear of a head injury as
she
had no warning when she passed out. So I gave up my full time work .We
made
this decision after a few very frightening experiences. The first one
was
when she passed out in the bathroom and hit her head on the back of
the door
(thankfully not the edge of the bath or vanity) and I couldn't get in
the
bathroom as her body was blocking the door. Another time Krystal
passed out
in the kitchen and I was in my bedroom so I hadn't actually seen her
fall
(although I heard it), but I hadn't seen if she had hit the corner of
the
bench and when I got to her, her eyes were open but she was
unresponsive
(for around 10 minutes ) and had a very weak pulse..I actually thought
I was
going to lose her. Obviously that involved two more ambulance trips.
After that if Krystal needed the toilet or a bath (she has passed out
in the
bath ), I took her. Even just to go from one room to the next either
myself
or my husband walked with her. We took our phones to bed in case she
needed
the bathroom at night and I often got up to check on her. We also had
carpet
laid just in case to make a softer landing than the polished
floorboards.
Stairs were out as the exertion was to much so far too dangerous .
Krystal
didn't see downstairs at home for 9 months (our main living area and
front
door are upstairs) and we all had a big laugh at her first time back
down
because it was like seeing it for the first time!


Luckily, Krystal is an extremely positive, happy and intelligent
teenager
who has kept the belief that she WILL get better and this is only a
hiccup
in her life. I think she had to believe that or else she would have
fallen
apart. Even during the worst time she tried to learn Italian and
guitar to
keep her mind active. Since she has been feeling better for the last
2
months (she still has bad days but also has really good periods), she
has
hit the ground running with her studies and her wonderful boss and
staff at
Bakers Delight have welcomed her back on a few short shifts to see how
she
goes. They watch her very closely.


I cannot change the fact that Krissy did get the Gardasil injections
but the
next best thing is to:


a) Get Gardasil off the market;


b) Inform as many people as possible of the potential side effects so
others
can make more informed and educated decisions than we did .


I cannot begin to explain the toll this has taken on Krystal's life
and our
family and I would love to be in touch with anyone who has
experienced
similar problems to learn more or help someone else if possible.


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Krystal's Story (Australia)
May 14, 2010 by Gertrude Green


On 27th March, 2008, I received my first cervical cancer vaccination
dose.
The second vaccination was on 5th June 08 and the third on 19th Nov
08. In
November 2008, I passed out for the first time.
My mother, who thought it best to go to the hospital just to be safe,
had
her mind eased when we were told it was probably just low blood
pressure.
Then, in January 2009, I passed out for approximately 10-15 seconds
at
school. I was sent home, and we again went to the hospital, just to be
told
by a doctor that "some girls just pass out".
When it started happening for a third time, and then a fourth and so
on,
obviously we started worrying. We went to our GP and he recommended
that I
wore a halter monitor for 24hours which showed I had an irregular
heartbeat.
As all this came on, I started getting bad headaches and migraines,
which I
have never in my life had. I would feel sick and queasy in the
stomach, like
throwing up, daily. The colour from my whole body was literally
drained, I
was as white as a ghost.
By now, this was occurring on a daily basis, so we were referred to a
local
heart specialist in Wollongong. He recommended that I wear another
halter
monitor, have a CAT scan, and an EEG neurological test. I received
all
three, with the CAT scan, and EEG neurological test coming out clear.
I received the same results with the halter monitor as I did with the
last
one; I was having palpitations, my pulse would start racing highly all
of a
sudden, and an irregular heartbeat was recorded. The specialist in
Wollongong, believed I had a case of Vaso Vagal, but decided to send
us to a
more qualified heart specialist in Sydney.
The specialist in Sydney, believed I had an irregular heartbeat, which
was
shown even whilst sleeping. My heart rate would increase dramatically,
at
the slightest changes. If I was sitting down, my pulse would be
normal,
around 70-85beats, then when I stood up, the monitor recorded that my
pulse
increased to 180beats. When I was in hospital, if I would stand up to
walk
around the corridor, my monitor would constantly beep, because my
heart rate
had increased so dramatically. The heart specialist recommended I have
a
mini operation on my heart (called an EPS) to determine whether
anything
drastic needed to be done.
After the operation it was determined that there was nothing wrong
with my
heart. When I was coming-to, from the anaesthetic, I started having
what
looked like a seizure, only when the neurologist came to help, he said
it
wasn't a normal seizure. I hadn't wet myself, did not bite my tongue
etc. I
stayed in cardiology at RPA for a week during that time and even
though I
passed out in the shower and my heart rate would go through the roof
if I
stood up and was generally unwell all day, they couldn't find any
answers.
My heart specialist, then transferred me over to this neurologist, who
put
me on a waiting list for a week long EEG, to see if my 20minute long
EEG
(that I'd had previously) had missed anything.
I had gotten so bad, that by March I had to leave school, because I
was only
there for a maximum of an hour, before I'd passed out again. My length
of my
pass outs were increasing dramatically, it went from 10seconds, to
five
minutes, then ten minutes, fifteen, etc.
When it was time to have the week long EEG, it had gotten to the point
where
I couldn't walk ANYWHERE. If I was exposed to too much sunlight, I
would
pass out, or get a migraine. Sitting upright in the wheelchair for too
long,
would cause me to faint. My blood pressure was permanently low. I
could do
nothing, and go nowhere. I couldn't even walk myself to the bathroom
without
someone needing to come with me. All dignity was lost, and I would get
so
frustrated with the fact that I could do NOTHING on my own. Trying to
stay
positive was difficult, but I would not let myself melt down and come
to
pieces with whatever this was. That would just make things so much
harder,
not only on me, but my family and loved ones. Having a shower,
obviously,
was out of the question, as my blood pressure was permanently low at
this
point. So I would have a bath instead. One time I got so frustrated
with
anything and everything, and I just wanted to have a bath on my own
for
once, which before all this happened, I would be able to do freely
whenever
I wanted.
And of course, I passed out in the bath. That was so scary, one of the
most
terrifying moments of my life I think. I remember waking up, and my
Mum and
Dad were pulling me out of the bath, I had no idea what was going on.
I just
remember coughing up the water, I was so scared, and I remember mum's
face,
she was terrified and crying I think. This was my life for over a
year.
Hospital trips, ambulance rides, and then the hospital stays. The
worst
thing was, we had no idea what was happening, and what was causing it.
The
days that I wasn't in hospital, I was at home, all day, every day.
Being in
the wheelchair was such a horrible experience for me, I hated it.
We would go through times when nothing would happen for a week or two,
and I
would get so excited, thinking whatever it was that had been ruining
my
life, had finally left! When I then passed out, it was heartbreaking.
I
wanted so badly for everything to get back to normal.
It started getting scary; the amount of time I was unconscious for
was
increasing dramatically still. The longest time I have ever been
unconscious
for was 40minutes straight. That was when the hospitals finally
started
taking things seriously, and doing tests, and more tests, which
finally led
my family and I, to discovering that it could be from having the
three
cervical cancer vaccinations.
If only people knew how much this has impacted not only on my life,
but on
my family's life too. Having no idea what was going on, we all thought
that
this might be a permanent factor.
There were times in that period, where I thought I was going to die.
Times
where I'd passed out on a main road, outside on my driveway, in the
bath, in
the shopping centre, when I was asleep and when I was home alone
(after we
thought I was getting better). The impact it has had on my 8 year old
sister, is just heart breaking. I remember on her birthday, Mum and I
went
shopping for her birthday cake, and I passed out in the shops. I felt
so
horrible that I couldn't be there, and that Mum had to stay in
hospital with
me. My sister wasn't left alone with me very often, but there has been
a
time where I passed out on the driveway, and she was the only one
here. That
was heartbreaking, that she had the weight of that on her shoulders.
I am infuriated that I had to postpone 18 months of my life, leave
school,
not be able to drive, not be able to work, have no social life. I had
to
live with this EVERY DAY. There was no escape, I virtually could do
nothing.
I am outraged that it has taken so long for my family and I to find
out the
true cause of this, and I believe we deserve to be heard from. This
vaccination should never have been allowed into Australia without
proper
testing.
I will not stop until we have been listened to, and action has been
taken,
and this vaccination is taken off the market completely.


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Check this video from the USA with Lauren's experience after Gardasil
http://www.wxii12.com/health/23519907/detail.html
May 13, 2010 by Gertrude Green


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March 26, 2010 by Gertrude Green


Naomi's Story (Melbourne, Australia)
The video of my story is
here http://www.twitvid.com/5213A


I was a happy healthy 25 year old girl working full-time and studying
and to
complete a degree at Monash University. I went to get my gardasil
vaccination after being prompted by the strong government campaign. I
was
never asked whether I was pre disposed to auto immune conditions, had
a
compromised immune system or had any family history of such. If I had
of
been asked I would not have gotten the shot. After my first shot I had
a
really sore arm for weeks. I have never experienced that before with
other
vaccinations but at the time I thought it a small price to pay to
reduce the
risk of cervical cancer.


I went in for my second shot and was never asked if I'd had any
problems
since the first shot. A few weeks later I started having some problems
with
my legs. They felt stiff and walking wasn't as easy and it should be.
I
couldn't get comfortable at night and my hands and feet kept cramping.
I was
also experiencing moving pains and was in quite a bit of discomfort.
I
started to get regular phsyio, massages and cupping therapy to
alleviate my
symptoms. I was also running (about 5kms a day) as I thought this may
help
loosen me up if my pain was postural. It never occurred to me that it
could
have something to do with my vaccination.


I went for my third gardasil shot and was never asked about my health
post
the initial two vaccinations. Within a week my knee became inflamed
and then
started collapsing underneath me. My pains became debilitating and I
could
not sleep at night. All my joints were aching and even made a clicking
noise
when I tried to go up or down stairs. My knees had a spastic feeling
when I
tried to walk and my legs became very shaky. My knee seized up and
locked in
a bent position.


My doctor ordered some blood tests and they showed up a positive ANA
test
which is indicative of some kind of auto immune problem. I was in a
bit of a
mess and was put on 25 mg of prednisolone and referred to a
rheumatologist.
The rheumatologist told me that my problems were probably down to
'anxiety'.
I have never heard of anxiety giving anyone an inflamed knee before
but she
was getting paid the big bucks. I refused to accept what she was
saying and
so she ordered an MRI.


Apparently steroids (like prednisolone) can take evidence from your
MRIS so
I had to stop taking them in the lead up to the MRI. And then my world
fell
apart. I was so weak and shaky I could not stand. My body was tingling
and
numb and all of my bodily responses felt delayed. I could not feel
strands
of hair when I picked them up. My feet were cramping and I was
dropping
things. I was going to the toilet all the time! My legs were jumping
and
giving me shocks, tremors and mini seizures. And then I got
dissociation
from my legs. My legs did not feel like they fitted on my body. I
would walk
and it didn't feel like I was using my own legs.


My skin felt uncomfortable at times as though it was crawling and
didn't fit
properly. I was also feeling dizzy, tired and sick and could not
follow the
Dr's pen with my eyes. My eyes were jumping and playing up randomly. I
also
got sick with some kind of gastro bug and I kept vomiting until I had
to go
to E.D. I have never been melodramatic when it comes to health and I
actually think I have a high pain threshold but tt one stage of that
visit I
did actually fear that I might be dying, though I was assured I would
not.


My MRI showed up a lesion of demyelination on my brain indicative of
an
episode of multiple sclerosis and I was sent to see a neurologist.
She
explained to me that it was not a typical result and further evidence
would
be needed for any kind of diagnosis. I did an evoked visual response
test
and passed. The follow up MRI (6 months later) showed no progression
of the
demyelination since steroid treatment and finishing Gardasil. I have
changed
some meds for neurological conditions, pain and am slowly weaning off
the
steroids � a milligram at a time. Every time I reduce my dosage it
knocks me
around and gives me chronic fatigue. So far I have reduced my dosage
by more
than half but I still have a long way to go.


Fourteen months after my last vaccination I still have chronic
fatigue
syndrome, pain and some neurological difficulties. I have my fingers
crossed
that my steroid use will not result in diabetes or osteoperosis. I
know I
still have a long hard fight ahead of me. I still have no formal
diagnosis
or medical explanation as to what has occurred. All I know is that
there is
a lot of other girls with the exact same story as me and the only
common
thread we can find is Gardasil.


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See Judy Wilyman post in Background section and an Editorial in
Obstetrics
and Gynecology that suggests all girls and women receiving Gardasil
should
be put on contraception for the whole period of the 3 shots (+ 30 days
more)
so that babies born with disabilities can be avoided. This sheds yet
another
light on the Gardasil saga: too dangerous to give to any girl/woman!!
(To
put 11 year old girls on hormonal contraceptives is surely not a good
idea.)
March 14, 2010 by Gertrude Green


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August 31, 2009 by Gertrude Green


Jessica's Story (USA ) - as told by her mother Malinda


My daughter, Jessica, had the Gardasil Vaccination between August 2006
and
April 2007. She had her first one before she left for college.
Shortly
thereafter, she started calling us and telling us that she was losing
a lot
of hair. Next came the stomach aches. Soon, she had such bad
stomach
aches. Soon came issues with constipation. We had gone to a few
doctors
that tried her on Irritable Bowel Syndrome medicine and probiotics
for
stomach acid. Nothing seemed to make a difference.


Over the next two years her symptoms progressively got worse. Also, in
the
meantime we went from one doctor to the next. We even went to Mayo
Clinic
in Rochester, MN. Their final diagnosis was Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
and
Fibromyalgia. Why? What caused this to a girl that used to be
perfectly
normal, healthy, athletic and super bright?


Her symptoms have progressed to extreme fatigue, swollen lymph
nodes,
inflammation, achy muscles, sores in her nose, bladder infections,
yeast
infections, abnormal pap smear, insomnia, heart palpitations, foggy
concentration, headaches, extreme stomach bloating and stomach
pains,
horrendous menstrual cycles, and an overall ill feeling. Never
really
feels good. Some days are worse than others. Jessica can get a good
night's
sleep and then feel like she has a hangover in the morning.


Some of the issues I am concerned about with her is did Gardasil push
her
body into menopause? Will Gardasil cause her cervical cancer? Will
Gardasil cause her to have infertility issues? Did Gardasil push her
body
into an auto immune disorder which causes this overall general ill
feeling
she has??


We are currently using food supplements and vitamins to try to make
her feel
better. It seems like she may have a better day and then boom, the
next day
is not soo good.


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August 31, 2009 by Gertrude Green


Elif (Australia)
My condition got worse after the second and especially the third
vaccination
(2008 July). As nobody informed me of the adverse side effects, I
unfortunately kept having the last shot. Simultaneously, I also had a
gynaecological problem which ended up being a chronic inflammation
and
chronic pain condition.


My first symptoms were numbness, pins and needles in the extremities,
nausea, extreme fatigue, dizziness, confusion, depression, seizures,
trembling, metallic taste in the mouth. I also had a major Candida
outbreak,
which is still present. It is unfortunately getting worse and worse,
although I'm on a diet and I tried taking some antifungals, nothings
working, my immune system is falling apart. I am currently diagnosed
with
Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, Vulvodynia, and my recent
test
results show that I am also developing an autoimmune disease, in
addition to
chronic inflammations in my body.


For treatment and management, I'm having a rest and avoiding food
allergies
to speed my recovery. I have visited at least 10 doctors and none
believed
that the vaccination was the cause of this. This broke my trust and
made me
vulnerable as I don't know where to seek help from. Even though I'm
convincing myself that maybe there is nothing to do but wait, I am
developing new symptoms and not knowing how to deal with managing and
treating them. I recently developed an inflammation in the back part
of my
head with severe pain and burning sensation, this is a new symptom
and
again, confusing. This whole experience is very difficult to deal
with, both
emotionally and physically. I do believe that things would be easier
with
less damage if medical professionals were informed properly and
careful with
what they are doing. I really feel like a victim and still hoping to
find a
solution and help.


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Check background information for critical Editorial by Charlotte Haugh
in
the Journal of the American Medical Association stating what a lot of
critics have said: HPV vaccination has a lot of adverse effects and
its
efficacy is unproven
August 19, 2009 by Gertrude Green


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Megan's Story (USA) - as told by her mother Karen
July 20, 2009 by Gertrude Green


I'm writing this about my daughter so that anyone who may read this
will
know what happened to my beautiful daughter Megan.
Last November 15th 2008 my daughter Megan had made plans with the
family to
paint the outside of the home. We live in New Mexico, USA and it can
still
be pretty warm in late fall.
She had called that morning and asked what time I wanted her over and
I had
told her that she could come at any time. It was early in the morning,
still
a little cool and I had told her she could come and we would get
started
after it had warmed a bit. She said, "OK Mom I'm going to get in the
shower
and then I'll be over."
Megan lived about 6 miles away. She was going to college and had her
own
place. She was 20 and would be 21 in a week and a half, Thanksgiving
Day.
The family started painting, we broke for lunch, no Megan yet. We
finished
up lunch and went back out to continue painting. I thought about her
not
showing up yet but I figured she changed her plans, forgot to call, or
her
boyfriend and she decided to go do something. Not a worry. Kids,
right?
I got the call, come quick. I did. I got there to see emergency
vehicles
everywhere so I just stopped my car and ran. I saw in her room the
EMTs
working on her. It was too late she had been in the shower for about
two
hours. My beautiful daughter was gone.
The pathologist told us that there was no cause of death to be found.
We had
asked about the Gardasil as we knew Megan did not drink, do drugs or
smoke.
The pathologist said that they could not find a cause to her death. We
still
have no answers and still continue to search. They did say however
that her
lungs were filled with foamy fluid. Many of the parents who have lost
their
daughters and who have had the Gardasil vaccine have had this same
diagnosis. Not that this is the cause of death. Could it be a seizure?
Could
it be some kind of breakdown of their lungs?
At first we thought she had fallen in the shower and hit her head and
drowned but that was not the case. The showerhead was found turned
toward
the wall and she had gotten herself on her knees and laid her head on
the
edge of the tube and passed away, the water was not in her face.
Megan had some of the symptoms that other young women who passed away
have
experienced. She was extremely fatigued. We thought it was just her
classes
etc. She had had a rash on her face. Migraine headaches. Megan also
had
severe pains in her stomach. She had these pains the night before she
passed
away. She also had told me she felt like she was getting the flu.
We all need answers: why are these young women having these symptoms
after
the Gardasil vaccine? The symptoms are all similar but these girls are
being
told that the medical field does not know what is happening and they
also
tell them it is not the vaccine that has caused their injuries. Why is
it
that no one is helping to find out what the problem is? It makes us
all
wonder what the Government is up to when they will not help in solving
this
problem and yet more and more girls are coming down with these same
symptoms
who have had the Gardasil vaccine. Not just here in the US but there
are
reports of these same symptoms worldwide.
If you are a parent or a young woman reading this and are thinking
about
having the Gardasil vaccine, please research it yourself before you
make
your decision.


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Marian's Story (Australia)
July 20, 2009 by Gertrude Green


Most of my adult life I have lived with the knowledge that I am at
increased
risk of cervical cancer. As a DES Daughter I have a lifetime risk of a
rare
clear-cell cancer of the cervix/vagina. This cancer, causally linked
to in
utero exposure to DES, is aggressive, symptomless and the usual Pap
smear
will not pick it up. I have to have an annual "DES examination" that
involves colposcopy. (For more on the DES story: www.desaction.org.au
)


In addition, also because of my DES exposure, I have a 4-fold increase
risk
of squamous-cell cancer of the cervix - the cervical cancer the Pap
smear is
designed to detect.
Since first finding out I am a DES Daughter (nearly 30 years ago) I
have
learnt to live with this risk, to put it into perspective and get on
with my
life. Part of this process involved becoming informed about cervical
cancer
by reading medical journal updates. More important, however, was the
sharing
of experiences with other DES daughters. In this way over the years
members
of DES Action have built up a unique knowledge base and "expertise"
of
cervical cancer, from the consumer perspective.
So when there was news of a "cervical cancer "vaccine being developed,
we
naturally were very interested and read up on it. However, the more we
read,
the less sense it made. It wasn't a "cervical cancer" vaccine but a
part-vaccine for HPV. The unanimous consensus we came to was "Why
bother?"
[As outlined in 'Gardasil: All cost and no benefit.']
We were very concerned about the "hard sell" the pharmaceutical
industry was
using to put pressure on the Government to have Gardasil listed on
the
National Immunisation Program.
But our greatest concern, based on our DES experience, was the lack
of
evidence of long term safety of the drug. Could Gardasil, like DES, be
a
time-bomb with serious, unforeseen adverse outcomes emerging months,
years
or even decades after the initial injections?
Here is an extract from DES Action's newsletter DESPATCH, March 2007:
Gardasil: Hype & Hard Sell
by Marian Vickers
Last November saw the most extraordinary example of manipulating the
media
for commercial gain when CSL, which shares Australian marketing rights
for
Gardasil with Merck, orchestrated the listing of this new cervical
cancer
vaccine on the National Immunisation Program.
CSL's initial proposal was rejected by the Pharmaceutical Benefits
Advisory
Committee (PBAC) because of "uncertainty about the duration of effect
and
unfavourable cost-effectiveness."
All hell broke loose and the first casualty was informed public
debate. What
followed was emotive, sensational lobbying and political opportunism,
culminating in political interference from the highest level when the
Prime
Minister, John Howard, intervened and effectively vetoed the PBAC
decision.
This "decision-making by media" has compromised the PBAC and
potentially
Australia's drugs safety system.1
The lack of informed public debate has made decision making difficult
on a
personal level. Many parents will be wondering whether to recommend
the
vaccine to their daughters. Given that the vaccine is targeted at
young
teenage girls, there is an issue of informed consent. Next month the
school
immunisation program commences and consent forms will be sent home.
How are
parents meant to make an informed decision on behalf of their
daughters?
Just how effective and safe is this vaccine?
Because of the DES experience, I'm most interested in looking at drug
safety. A concerning aspect of the debate on Gardasil is the lack of
information on its safety, particularly long-term safety.
In the media, any mention of 'safety' is in fact talking about
'efficacy' -
i.e. will the vaccine work for a lifetime, or is a booster necessary?
Worryingly, in the government "fact sheet" for health providers, there
are
only 2 sentences relating to 'safety':
"Gardasil is generally well tolerated, with a small increase in
reports of
injection site reactions and fever compared to aluminium containing
placebo
(injection site reactions 83% vs 73%, fever 13% vs 11%). Very few
serious
adverse reactions were reported in clinical trials." 2
There is no information on how long the clinical trials went for, and
whether any large-scale trials were conducted on 12-13 year old
girls.
Given that there is going to be wide-scale immunisation of thousands
of
young girls starting next month, the health authorities better be very
sure
there will be no unforeseen, unexpected side effects in the future. It
would
be truly tragic if the young girls receiving the vaccine faced an
increased
risk of, for example, infertility or autoimmune disease in 5, 10 or 20
years
hence.
Hopefully animal modelling studies have been done to rule out this
possibly.
References:
1. Gina McColl: 'Health care's sticking point', The Sunday Age, News
Extra
12, February 25, 2007
2. Fact Sheet 'Human papillomavirus vaccines for Australians:
Information
for GPs and immunisation providers', National Centre for Immunisation
Research and Surveillance of Vaccine Preventable Diseases, page 4,
September
2006
From DESPATCH #54, March 2007, page 1
At the time of writing this my 2 daughters were aged in their early
20s and
therefore not part of this school vaccination program. I might have
mentioned in passing that I thought they didn't need Gardasil, but I
didn't
make a big deal of it.
What I didn't realise was that the "hard sell" had been extended and
was
directly targeting all young women. During 2007 every time my
daughters went
to the doctor for some other reason, they were urged (one could almost
say
harassed) to have their Gardasil shots. They each received letters
from
various medical centres they had attended in recent years. These
letters
were sent out to all "eligible" young women urging them to have
Gardasil
while it was free. [I only found this out later as my daughters were
not
living at home but sharing a unit a couple of suburbs away.]
My younger daughter, aged 24 years, had the first 2 shots of Gardasil
in
late 2007. In March-April 2008 she had to take a number of sick days
off
work due to extreme tiredness and lethargy. She had a test for
glandular
fever (it was negative) and upped her intake of vitamins. Luckily she
didn't
get around to having her 3rd shot of Gardasil and, after seeing what
happened to her sister, she gives a serve to any doctor who suggests
it!
My elder daughter Zoe was fit and healthy in May 2008 when she passed
a
thorough medical examination. Two months later - and one month after
receiving the 3rd Gardasil injection - she was a housebound invalid:
she
couldn't walk, drive or work.
I bought her a "health diary" and she recorded her symptoms, what she
ate
and what medication she was on. Looking back over this diary I don't
know
how we got through those following weeks. I'm just so impressed with
Zoe's
strength of character.
Her symptoms started off with a terrible rash (urticaria) which she
had
every day for 7 months. Her face would swell up (angioedma) so she
looked
like a boxer who had lost a fight. Her tongue had strange bald patches
on
it. She was having weekly blood tests. Initially these were normal but
then
her CRP levels (an indicator of inflammatory disease) were elevated
and
getting higher by the week. Her wrists and hands were swollen like
severe
rheumatoid arthritis. They ached and she had trouble holding things.
Her
knees and ankles were swollen and aching. The soles of her feet were
so
swollen she couldn't walk and could only hobble short distances. There
was
inflammation of connective tissue and more tests were ordered looking
for
Lupus. By the end of July she started getting indigestion, gastric
problems,
severe abdominal pain and gastric reflux. She had 3 episodes where
her
throat swelled up and she had trouble breathing. In early September,
while
being examined by a Rheumatologist, a suspected heart murmur was
picked up
and she was sent for more tests. When she'd had the medical 4 months
previously in May there was no heart murmur present.
Any one of these symptoms is painful and difficult to deal with. To
have
them occur suddenly, all at once, and with increasing severity was
distressing and very frightening -particularly when the treatment
(high
doses of antihistamines) wasn't working.
During this time Zoe's younger sister was put under enormous stress as
she
had the responsibility of looking after Zoe on a day to day basis.
A breakthrough, in terms of understanding what was going on, came
mid-
August when we were given information on Ketotifen, a mast cell
stabiliser.
Apparently people with chronic urticaria and angioedma do not suffer
from
specific allergies, but rather an unstable mast cell system. According
to
the fact sheet, the unstable mast cells leak histamine, prostaglandins
and
leucotrienes, which result in other associated symptoms. For example,
due to
the release of these chemicals, patients also suffer from headaches,
tiredness, lethargy, irritability and difficulty in concentration. It
can
also affect the gastro-intestinal tract causing cramping, bloating,
indigestion, regurgitation, flatulence, intermittent diarrhoea and
constipation. Many patients suffer from joint pains and muscle pain.
These
symptoms are due to the inflammatory properties of leaked histamines,
prostaglandins and leucotrienes.
As the Clinical Immunologist we saw in October explained, unstable
mast
cells underlie autoimmune responses. So finally we had a diagnosis of
Zoe's
condition that explained the symptoms - chronic uritcaria/angioedma,
an
autoimmune response due to an unstable mast cell system.
Having a diagnosis was only the beginning of the journey. Doing a rush
job
on reading up on the immune system and autoimmune disease left my
head
spinning.
Quite by chance the ABC TV program 'Catalyst' ran a special on 'The
Immune
System', 7 August 2008. The gist of the program was that our immune
systems
are fantastically complex, responsive and adaptive. Science is only
now
starting to unravel the wonders and complexity of the immune system.
Even more complex is the autoimmune response: this is when the body's
immune
system defences turn back on itself and start attacking healthy cells
and
tissues. Autoimmune diseases include asthma, rheumatoid arthritis,
irritable
bowel, motor neurone disease, multiple sclerosis. What triggers this
autoimmune response is unknown. Why some people get it and others
don't isn't
understood.
That's why I get so angry when I think about Gardasil. Here we have a
vaccine which deliberately meddles with the individual's immune
system. It
is a new type of vaccine never used before. It uses new technology -
recombinant DNA technology (which is like cloning) - to trick the
immune
system and artificially rev it up. No thought of triggering an
autoimmune
response, all they look for are injection site redness and fever
within 24
hours. How dare they! Talk about irresponsible cowboys. Boys with
their
toys!
I think the diverse and varied adverse reactions to Gardasil may be
immune
responses. Our immune systems have evolved over eons. We are
programmed with
primitive survival reactions. Everyone has heard of the "fight or
flight"
reaction. However it appears there may be a 3rd primitive programmed
reaction: "freeze". When studying humans under extreme duress,
researchers
have found that people often become lethargic, they freeze up, shut
down,
becoming limp and still. This may be a primitive survival response -
playing
dead may discourage a predator from attacking. [Refer to 'The
Unthinkable:
Who Survives Disasters - And Why' (2008) by Amanda Ripley]
So maybe the many reports of girls fainting or experiencing temporary
paralysis can be explained as an immune response - a response to the
assault
on the immune system by Gardasil.
It's time to start asking questions of the drug manufacturers and the
drug
safety authorities. Specifically, exactly what studies were done prior
to
its release to show Gardasil is safe, that it doesn't trigger
immune/autoimmune responses? Where is the evidence of its safety?
Marian Vickers, Convenor DES Action Australia


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> > >>>> Krystal's story (Australia) as told by her mother Alison (As this story
> > >>>> is posted, Krystal is in hospital after she fainted again today after
> > >>>> two months of being OK)
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> > >>> As Jan would tell you, hearsay is just that, worthless and
> > >>> unsubstantianted.
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> > >>> No proof of cause, all pure conjecture. It does not help anyone, but it
> > >>> can help generate unsubstantiated fears.
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> > >>> None of the Dr.'s found it was related to Gardasil in any way.
> > >> �Would that be the Doctors that give it to people? How surprising!
>
> > > No, it wasn't the same Doctors. Why do you cling to unsubstaniated rumors
> > > for your "truth"? Afraid of reality? Why do you self medicate? Have you
> > > abused your body once too much?
>
> > � Do you mean to say that "those" doctors did not ever give it to any
> > other people? That they had no bias? How could that be? If they were
> > doctors, then it is a given that they support vaccines.-
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> I �can readily prove that wrong by naming one doctor who does not
> support vaccines.
>
> Doctor of Business, Joe Mercola.

God Bless him, and it is Dr Mercola