From: Jeff on
john wrote:
> GULF WAR TOXINS IN SWINE FLU VACCINE
>
>
>
> RISK: Squalene has been blamed for Gulf War syndrome
> Sunday August 23,2009
> By Lucy Johnston
> THE new swine flu vaccine �contains a deadly brain toxin linked to autism,
> Alzheimer's and multiple sclerosis.
>
>
> Mercury, a vaccine preservative, was withdrawn from childhood jabs five
> years ago after evidence linked it to brain damage.

Actually, a more accurate statement is because of theoretical risk,
rather than proven damage.

> However, the Sunday Express has discovered the pandemic �vaccine, to be
> rolled out across the country within weeks, contains the heavy metal.
>
> It also contains a chemical called squalene, used to stimulate the immune
> system to respond to the vaccine. Some scientists believe squalene is linked
> to autoimmune illnesses including multiple sclerosis, rheumatoid arthritis
> and lupus.

Keywords: some, believe. In other words, there is very little evidence.
And, one has to look at doses. Are the doses of squalene high enough to
cause harm?

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From: Mark Probert on
On Aug 23, 6:01 pm, Jeff <kidsdoc2...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> john wrote:
> > GULF WAR TOXINS IN SWINE FLU VACCINE
>
> > RISK: Squalene has been blamed for Gulf War syndrome
> > Sunday August 23,2009
> > By Lucy Johnston
> > THE new swine flu vaccine ­contains a deadly brain toxin linked to autism,
> > Alzheimer's and multiple sclerosis.
>
> > Mercury, a vaccine preservative, was withdrawn from childhood jabs five
> > years ago after evidence linked it to brain damage.
>
> Actually, a more accurate statement is because of theoretical risk,
> rather than proven damage.
>
> > However, the Sunday Express has discovered the pandemic ­vaccine, to be
> > rolled out across the country within weeks, contains the heavy metal.
>
> > It also contains a chemical called squalene, used to stimulate the immune
> > system to respond to the vaccine. Some scientists believe squalene is linked
> > to autoimmune illnesses including multiple sclerosis, rheumatoid arthritis
> > and lupus.
>
> Keywords: some, believe. In other words, there is very little evidence.
> And, one has to look at doses. Are the doses of squalene high enough to
> cause harm?

This should be an excellent replacement for the garbage John posted:

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=851

"Dr. Joseph Mercola’s recent screed foisted upon the public is no such
source. “Squalene: The Swine Flu Vaccine’s Dirty Little Secret”
reveals his exceptionally poor grasp of the immune system, asserts
that influenza is not worth preventing (36,000 deaths, 200,000
hospitalizations from seasonal flu, I suppose one could see his
point), and perpetuates the thoroughly refuted toxin gambit.
Nevertheless, at the time of this writing his article has misinformed
nearly 250,000 readers."

Here is the BEST quote, in my opinion:

"Ah, but earlier I promised you a punch line. Remember this quote?

[Mercola's article claimed that] The U.S. government has contracts
with several drug companies to develop and produce swine flu vaccines.
At least two of those companies, Novartis and GlaxoSmithKline, are
using an adjuvant in their H1N1 vaccine."

"Novartis and GSK are indeed developing influenza vaccines containing
adjuvants – for use in Europe, where squalene containing adjuvants
have been safely used for over a decade. The US is indeed conducting
H1N1 vaccine safety and efficacy studies that include the use of
adjuvants. Given the unpredictable nature of the upcoming season and
the very real potential that vaccine demand will outstrip its supply,
it would be irresponsible for the US not to be prepared with a well
studied contingency plan that includes possible adjuvant use.

However, it must be clearly stated that there are no adjuvants, nor
have there ever been, in the US influenza vaccines. Furthermore,
barring the highly unlikely failure of the standard unadjuvanted
vaccines currently in trial, the H1N1 vaccines available in the US
will also be adjuvant free.7"



Can it be that we have a documented case of Mercola lying? Or, is he
just a bad researcher?

It does not matter.When a medical doctor pontificates as Mercola has,
he has the ethical, moral and professional responsibility to be
accurate.

From: Jan Drew on
The core group includes:

Management:

Steven Novella, MD – Founder and Executive Editor
David H. Gorski, MD, PhD – Managing Editor
Associate Editors:

Kimball C. Atwood IV, MD
Mark A. Crislip, MD
Harriet Hall, MD
Val Jones, MD
Peter A. Lipson, MD
In addition, we have regular contributors who post here every other
week or less frequently and provide invaluable additional commentary.

Contributors:

Joseph Albietz, MD
Timothy Krieder
David J. Kroll, PhD
David W. Ramey, DVM
John M. Snyder, MD
Wallace Sampson, MD
From: Mark Probert on
On Aug 23, 8:57 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>  The core group includes:
>
> Management:
>
> Steven Novella, MD – Founder and Executive Editor
> David H. Gorski, MD, PhD – Managing Editor
> Associate Editors:
>
> Kimball C. Atwood IV, MD
> Mark A. Crislip, MD
> Harriet Hall, MD
> Val Jones, MD
> Peter A. Lipson, MD
> In addition, we have regular contributors who post here every other
> week or less frequently and provide invaluable additional commentary.
>
> Contributors:
>
> Joseph Albietz, MD
> Timothy Krieder
> David J. Kroll, PhD
> David W. Ramey, DVM
> John M. Snyder, MD
> Wallace Sampson, MD

Many fine experts and writers who spend long hours researching and
documenting their articles. Unlike MERC(ury)OLA who writes toxic
articles to promote his websites sales.



From: Happy Oyster on
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 17:57:14 -0700 (PDT), Jan Drew <jdrew63929(a)aol.com> wrote:

> The core group includes:

Says Janet Mae Stidd, who is too goddamed stupid to count to 2.

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