From: Mark Probert-Drew on
On May 8, 9:59 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> On May 8, 7:21 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
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> > On May 8, 3:45 pm, Ja...(a)nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > In article
> > > <024dd502-2671-4b4b-8a97-c0b149982...(a)z33g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>, Mark
>
> > > Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On May 6, 3:06=A0pm, Ja...(a)nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > > > In article
> > > > > <7f899bb1-3777-4a2c-b507-71ae49408...(a)h11g2000vbo.googlegroups.com>, Mark
>
> > > > > Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On May 6, 12:49=3DA0am, Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > I see you are still lying. =3DA0You proved with your own words, you a=
> > > > re
> > > > > > > not a doctor.
>
> > > > > > > Why would anyone believe anything you post?
>
> > > > > > Hmmmm...because he is educated FAR MORE than you are, writes
> > > > > > coherently, does not stalk, harass or abuse, is not a bigot, and is an
> > > > > > all around nice guy.
>
> > > > > > You should learn from him.
>
> > > > > > > On May 5, 5:58 am, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Jan Drew wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On May 3, 6:05 am, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> Jan Drew wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>> On May 2, 8:23 am, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>> Kevysmom wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> You now know the reason that most people in America (includi=
> > > > ng m=3D
> > > > > > yself) do
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> NOT waste our time watching PBS shows. PBS has to rely mainl=
> > > > y on=3D
> > > > > > =A0the gov't
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> for funding. They do collect donations but as far as I know-=
> > > > -mos=3D
> > > > > > t of their
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> funding comes from the government. If it was not for gov't f=
> > > > undi=3D
> > > > > > ng, PBS
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> would have gone out of business many years ago. Most all of =
> > > > thei=3D
> > > > > > r
> > > > > > > > >>>>>> producers and directors are very liberal
> > > > > > > > >>>>> Major funding for PBS is from tax payers donating moent to th=
> > > > e
> > > > > > > > >>>>> government by force, Then the government forces parents to va=
> > > > ccin=3D
> > > > > > ate
> > > > > > > > >>>>> their babies,
> > > > > > > > >>>> No one forces anyone to be vaccinated.
> > > > > > > > >>> A blatant lie.
> > > > > > > > >>>http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/WaterCooler/story?id=3D3D3880578&page=
> > > > =3D3D1
> > > > > > > > >> From the story: "Hundreds of parents and their children descende=
> > > > d on=3D
> > > > > > =A0a
> > > > > > > > >> suburban Maryland courtroom today to protest a judge's order req=
> > > > uiri=3D
> > > > > > ng
> > > > > > > > >> all children to be vaccinated in order to attend classes.."
>
> > > > > > > > >> The parents have the option of a religious exemption. In additio=
> > > > n, t=3D
> > > > > > hey
> > > > > > > > >> have the option of homeschooling.
>
> > > > > > > > >> Jeff
>
> > > > > > > > > Rather difficult when both parents have to work.
>
> > > > > > > > Really?
>
> > > > > > > Yes, really. =3DA0One cannot be at home with their kids if they are
> > > > > > > working. =3DA0Duh.
>
> > > > > > Well, if they have to work, then they have to go by the rules.
>
> > > > > > > =3DA0How difficult is it to get a religious exemption?
>
> > > > > > > They should not have to. =3DA0It is their right not to vaccine.
>
> > > > > > Yes, for themselves, but not for the community as a whole, and the
> > > > > > school community in particular. Their choice not to vaccinate may
> > > > > > impact on others.
>
> > > > > > > >As far as home schooling is concerned, that's their problem.
>
> > > > > > > > Jeff
>
> > > > > > > How nice, since you don't have any kids, you have not a clue.
>
> > > > > > People have choices and choices lead to consequences.
>
> > > > > Mark,
> > > > > This is related to a point you made in another post. You stated that
> > > > > babies were born with a fully developed immune system.
>
> > > > I believe you mis-read it. Try to find it.
>
> > > >  I stated that
> > > > > babies were born with an immune system that was NOT fully developed. I
> > > > > done some research and found out that I was correct. Babies are born with
> > > > > an immune system but it is NOT fully developed.
>
> > > > However, what the baby has is a very robust immune system. The baby
> > > > has hundreds, if not thousands "assaults" a day and handles them.
>
> > > > If a baby is breast fed,
> > > > > the immune system in a baby develops much faster than in a baby that is
> > > > > bottle fed. You can find out this same info. if you google the correct
> > > > > terms.
>
> > > > I am sure I could. However, try reading what I said again.
>
> > > If you really believe that babies are born with a fully developed immune
> > > system--there is nothing I can do about it. However, almost every doctor
> > > and nurse knows for a fact that babies are NOT born with a fully developed
> > > immune system.
>
> > Lets not twist my words. I said babies have robust immune systems that
> > respond to hundreds, if not thousands, of assaults per day.
>
> > As a direct result, that is one of the primary reasons it
>
> > > is NOT wise to give them a vaccine that contains a neurotoxin. Millions of
> > > mothers and fathers are NOT allowing their babies and children to get
> > > vaccines that contains a neurotoxin called mercury.
>
> > Millions of parents? With hyperbole like that, are you Patrick Bolen?
>
> > Eventually mercury
>
> > > will NOT be in any vaccines and that will be a good thing.-
>
> > As I pointed out and Jan Drew proved, a child can go through all of
> > the childhood vaccinations without getting a drop of mercury. (Note
> > that there is no mercury in ANY vaccine, ever. Thimerosal contained
> > only one atom of mercury per molecule. No big deal).
>
> Of course Mark is lying again.  I posted no such thing.

Wrong, dumbDREW. You posted a link to a chart which proves my point.

> It should be pointed out tnat not doc lied, and posted there is no
> mercruy in vaccines.

According to your chart, a child can get all the usual vaccinations
without any thimerosal.

> http://vaccineresistancemovement.org/?p=557

Anti-vax liar website.

> VRM: Top Ten Reasons Why Children Should Avoid The H1N1 Vaccine
>
> 1) FLU SHOTS CONSISTENTLY DO NOT WORK IN CHILDREN; INSTEAD MAY CAUSE
> HARM
>
> Not in babies: In a review of more than 51 studies involving more than
> 294,000 children, it was found there was “no evidence that injecting
> children 6-24 months of age with a flu shot was any more effective
> than placebo. In children over 2 yrs, it was only effective 33% of the
> time in preventing the flu.
> Reference: Vaccines for preventing influenza in healthy children.” The
> Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews. 2 (2008).

This study does not apply to the H1N1 vaccine, BECAUSE IT WAS BEFORE
THE VACCINE WAS DEVELOPED. Imbeclile.


> 2) SQUALINE HAS NEVER BEEN TESTED ON CHILDREN

These morons are even more stupid that Jan. Squalene was not used in
the US version of the vaccine. Squalene is produced by the liver in a
normal human being.

Two down, why bother with the rest of this bullDREW?

From: Mark Probert-Drew on
On May 8, 10:04 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> On May 8, 7:23 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On May 8, 5:54 pm, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn...(a)ratbags.com> wrote:
>
> > > Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >On May 7, 6:24 pm, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn...(a)ratbags.com> wrote:
> > > >> Donna <kevysmo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >So, are you saying some can ingest poison chemicals and not have a
> > > >> >reaction, while others can die from it? You dont make any sense.
>
> > > >> The chemical most commonly used for suicide attempts in Australia is
> > > >> acetaminophen. If this chemical was invented today it would probably
> > > >> not be allowed to be sold without a prescription from a doctor because
> > > >> of its toxicity to the liver, but right now a lethal dose can be
> > > >> purchased in supermarkets for a few dollars.
>
> > > >> The reaction that most people have to the millions of doses consumed
> > > >> around the world each day is that their headaches and other pains go
> > > >> away.
>
> > > >> The dose makes the poison.
>
> > > >Interestingly, APAP has one of the narrowest margines between the
> > > >therapuetic dose and the toxic dose.
>
> > > That's what I meant by my comment about prescription only. Actually,
> > > if it was invented today it probably wouldn't even make it to market
> > > because it is so dangerous. It would have to be a better painkiller
> > > than opiates.
>
> > Agreed. It has become one of the many home brew suicide pills. I have
> > seen several claims for liver failure when the workers comp
> > beneficiary overused APAP which resulted in the failure. One of my
> > clients does not even bother to invesitgate the claim and just pays.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.attn-deficit/msg/b47238df1...
>
> ****Anecdotes are not facts. They are, at best interesting stories.
> At
> worst, outright lies.****  Mark Probert


You are a real DREWhole. You want dead kids.

From: Peter Bowditch on
Jan Drew <jdrew63929(a)aol.com> wrote:

>Dr. James R. Shannon, former director of the National institute of
>health declared, "the only safe vaccine is one that is never used."

When did he say that, Jan, and in what context?

As usual, your own words please.

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From: VacSeens are safe on

"Jan Drew" wrote..
>Vaccines are NOT SAFE.

As usual you misread and mis-represent the article entotal.

My offer to you still stands: a one way ticket out of the USA
to any middle eastern country in the world.

From: Mark Probert-Drew on
On May 10, 3:53 am, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn...(a)ratbags.com> wrote:
> Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >Dr. James R. Shannon, former director of the National institute of
> >health declared, "the only safe vaccine is one that is never used."
>
> When did he say that, Jan, and in what context?
>
> As usual, your own words please.

I have looked for the context of that quote several times, and cannot
find it. I doubt it is a quote, and believe that it is something that
has been adulterated after being quote mined and taken out of
context.

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