From: dr_jeff on
Bob Officer wrote:
> On Sun, 09 May 2010 13:18:01 -0400, in,
> dr_jeff <utz(a)> wrote:
>> Bob Officer wrote:
>>> On Fri, 07 May 2010 22:23:44 -0400, in,
>>> dr_jeff <utz(a)> wrote:
>>>> Bob Officer wrote:
>>>> <...>
>>>>> And what type and the Amount of mercury they were exposed to and
>>>>> during exactly which part of fetal development matters.
>>>>> Donna is stuck in a fallacy loop.
>>>> Just one?
>>> Can one be stuck in multiple loops at the same time?
>> Yes.
> No wonder they are so confused. Watching the ditty do their loops
> makes one dizzy.

When you say that, it reminds me of a roller-coaster. They go from one
loop to another. I like the ones that go upside down or hold you buy
swiveling your seat 90 degrees so that when the coaster starts, your
chest is parallel to the ground (this one is called "Superman: Ultimate
Flight"). Likewise, the anti-vacs go from one fallacy to another, so
fast that it is like they are going on different loops on the Super
Duper Looper at Hershey Park or the Superman: Ultimate Flight.

The only difference is that the anti-vaccers are in different fallacies
at once.

From: Jan Drew on
Liar Jeffrey, Peter, Joseph Utz is not a doc, dr_jeff <u...(a)>
> Peter Bowditch wrote:
> > dr_jeff <u...(a)> wrote:
> >> Peter Bowditch wrote:
> >>> Donna <kevysmo...(a)> wrote:
> >>>> So, are you saying some can ingest poison chemicals and not have a
> >>>> reaction, while others can die from it? You dont make any sense.
> >>> The chemical most commonly used for suicide attempts in Australia is
> >>> acetaminophen. If this chemical was invented today it would probably
> >>> not be allowed to be sold without a prescription from a doctor because
> >>> of its toxicity to the liver, but right now a lethal dose can be
> >>> purchased in supermarkets for a few dollars.
> >> The lethal dose of alcohol and gasoline can be purchased for less in
> >> many places.
> > Yes, but they aren't commonly used to attempt suicide.
> >> What is more disturbing is that there are few efforts to make sure that
> >> there is a safe limit imposed on drugs with acetominophen in them, so
> >> that people don't take a toxic dose.
> > I've seen packets of 100 x 500mg pills on sale in a pharmacy for
> > $4.00. That same pharmacy wouldn't sell me 100mg caffeine tablets.
> I get my vitamin C in Diet Coke or Pepsi.

This shows you are not smart.

Vitamin C + sodium benzoate = death

Comment: Read your labels -- it may one day save your life.

Choose carefully what you put in your mouth

Supermarket Shelf Poisons

Anybody who takes Vitamin C (most people should) - avoid the following
soft drinks: Sunkist, Fanta, Diet Coke, Sprite, & Pepsi Max.

These drinks contain Sodium Benzoate 211 on the label. A chemical
between Vitamin C and Sodium Benzoate creates Benzine, a highly
Carcinogenic chemical.

Benzine has the ability to severely damage the DNA in the Mitochondria
the point that it totally inactivates it, knocks it out altogether.
Mitochondria consumes oxygen to give you energy, and if you damage it,
the cell starts to malfunction very seriously, often fatally. A whole
array of Diseases has been tied to the damage to the DNA, including
Parkinson's Disease and quite a lot of neuro-degenerative diseases..

This is a follow-up to the TV stations' story on Mentos and Diet Coke.
Don't mix these two, they cause a chemical reaction (explosion) in the
stomach. It's not only Mentos but also any mint products. Mint Life
Savers, Tic Tac's, Cool Mint's, etc. The Mint is not the culprit here
the Aspartame in the diet drinks, 951 on the label. Also avoid 950
Acelsultame F (same thing). Aspartame poisoning has been
linked to 92 Symptoms of disease.

Avoid all Toothpastes made in China! Especially Colgate. They contain
Ethylene Glycol. This is an anti-freezing agent, highly toxic and even
fatal. It destroys the liver, kidney, lung, blood cells, heart and the
nervous system. It is also in some mouth washes, make-up, aftershave,
powder and wipes, shampoo, and deodorants.

Avoid Smarties; they contain almost every toxic artificial colour on
market. To top it off Smarties are not even made of chocolate.
chocolate has no nutritional food value whatsoever.

Caution: Some soft drinks may seriously harm your health

May 27, 2007 ... 8� London Hi 10�C / Lo 7�C .... because when mixed
with the additive vitamin C in soft drinks, it causes benzene, a
carcinogenic substance. ... Coca-Cola and Britvic's Pepsi Max and Diet
Pepsi all contain sodium benzoate ...,30273,0.htm

vitamin C and soda
by jcr65566 on Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:00 AM

Quote | Reply
This is from Austraila if your in the US a soft drink is soda

Subject: Supermarket Shelf Poisons


This is a very interesting warning? Just what is safe to eat and use
these days? Goodness knows.


Supermarket Shelf Poisons

Anybody that takes Vitamin C (and most people should) avoid the
following Soft drinks Sunkist, Fanta, Diet Coke, Sprite, & Pepsi Max.
These drinks contain Sodium Benzoate 211 on the label.
A chemical reaction between Vitamin C and Sodium Benzoate creates
Benzine a highly Carcinogenic chemical (story by Channel 9) Benzine
has the ability to severely damage the DNA in the Mitochondria to the
point that it totally inactivates it, knock's it out altogether.

The Mitochondria consumes Oxygen to give you energy, and if you damage
it, then the cell starts to malfunction very seriously, often Fatally,
a whole array of Disease's has been tied to the damage to the DNA,
including Parkinson's Disease and quite a lot of Neuro-Degenerative

This is a follow-up of all the TV station's story on Mentos and Diet
Coke. Don't mix these two either, they cause a chemical reaction
(explosion) in the stomach, it's not only Mentos but also any Mint
products. Mint Life Savers, Tic Tac's, Cool Mint's, etc, the Mint is
not the culprit here but the Aspartame in the Diet Drink's, 951 on the
label, also avoid 950 Acelsultame F(same thing).
Aspartame poisoning has been scientifically linked to 92 Symptom's of
Disease. Still going to drink your Diet Drinks?????????

The Philippines has forbidden the Importing and use in their Country
of Aspartame including all makes of Saccharin, example Equal, Nutra-
Sweet, Spoonful, & Diet Drink's, including 6,000 consumer Good's and
Beverages, sold on the Supermarket shelves, this ban affect's all use
of this product in any type of consumable infringement and will carry
penalties that go from 9.000 euros to 90,000 Euros.

Mexico is also considering banning all 6,000 products of Aspartame on
its Supermarket shelves. In Mexico Aspartame is known as Rumsfeld's
Disease, after George Bush's mate Donald Rumsfeld.

The Nutra-Sweet company and Searle is owned by Monsanto who appointed
Rumsfeld as their General Manager, so they could use his clout with
Parliament to get this Deadly Poison passed by the FDA, and boost
their sales of Aspartame.

Avoid all Toothpaste's made in China , especially Colgate's they
contain Ethylene Glycol. This is an Anti-Freezing agent, Highly Toxic
and even Fatal, it destroys the Liver, Kidney's, Lung's, Blood Cells,
Heart and the Nervous System, also sold in some Mouth Washes, Make-up,
Aftershave, Baby
Powder and Wipes, Shampoo, and Deodorant's.

Avoid Smarties; they contain almost every Toxic artificial colour on
the market. The worst are 102, 104, and the worst of all 110
Carcinogenic, 124 undesirable, 127 Carcinogenic 128 Extreme Caution,
129,131, and 133 are also carcinogenic.

To top it off Smarties are not even made of Chocolate (neither are Tim
Tam's). Synthetic Chocolate has no nutritional food value whatsoever.

Read your label's it may one day save your life.

From: Jan Drew on
jeff Utz wrote:< work:

CDC= Organized medicine. A pity Jeffery Utz believes them.

Lawmakers sever ties between CDC and Big Pharma

In the wake of overhauling the FDA, lawmakers are also cracking down
on conflicts of interest within the Centers for Disease Control.

Last month, Representatives, Dr Dave Weldon (R-FL), and Carolyn
Maloney (D-NY), held a press conference to announce the introduction
of a bill that would give responsibility for vaccine safety to an
independent agency within the Department of Health and Human Services,
and remove most vaccine safety research from the CDC.

Specifically, they said on July 26, 2006, the "Vaccine Safety and
Public Confidence Assurance Act of 2006," will create an independent
office to address, investigate, and head off potential safety problems
like the use of mercury in vaccines, in an objective and non-
conflicted office whose sole purpose is vaccine safety and

According to Dr Weldon in a prepared statement, Federal agencies
charged with overseeing vaccine safety research have failed. They have
failed to provide sufficient resources for vaccine safety research.
They have failed to fund extramural research and they have failed to
free themselves from conflicts of interest that serve to undermine
public confidence in the safety of vaccines, he said.

"The American public deserves better," Dr Weldon stated, "and
increasingly parents and the public at large are demanding better."

"There's an enormous inherent conflict of interest within the CDC," he
said, "and if we fail to move vaccine safety to a separate independent
office, safety issues will remain a low priority and public confidence
in vaccines will continue to erode."

He said that similar conflicts have been remedied in other federal
agencies, but in the vaccine program the conflicts persist unchecked.
"This bill will provide the independence necessary," Dr Weldon said,
"to ensure that vaccine safety research is robust, unbiased, and
broadly accepted by the public at large."

"Vaccines do wonders for public health, but when the government
requires them, it must also ensure that they're safe," Ms Maloney said
in her statement. "We need adequate, unbiased research on vaccines,
and this legislation would deliver that."

She applauded Dr Weldon for his tremendous commitment and leadership
on the issue. "He is truly dedicated," she said, "to protecting our
children and the public at large."

While announcing the new bill, Dr Weldon and Ms Maloney were joined by
several groups advocating vaccine safety reform, including the
National Autism Association, A-Champs, and safeMINDS.

According to the National Autism Association: "This landmark
legislation will provide critical government agency oversight and
implementation of vaccine safety research, which has not kept pace
with the rise in the number of vaccines routinely prescribed to
consumers including pregnant women and young children."

Additionally, the Act calls for $80 million in funding to conduct
vaccine analysis and safety research.

Currently the CDC oversees vaccine research, safety and promotion, a
situation that has been drawing more and more public criticism in
recent years. The CDC compiles the list of vaccines that doctors are
to give all children in the US, based on the recommendations of an
advisory panel, and in many states kids can not attend day care or
public schools unless they have received the CDC-endorsed vaccines.

A recommendation by the CDC guarantees a huge market for a vaccine and
enables the drug company to use the government as a marketing device
for its product. The annual global market for vaccines is expected to
be over $10 billion this year.

On July 21, 2003, United Press International published a report based
on a four-month investigation that found a pattern of problems linked
to vaccines recommended by the CDC, as well as a web of close ties
between the agency's advisory panel and the pharmaceutical industry.

By investigating members of an advisory panel of outside experts that
make vaccine recommendations, UPI found that members of the panel
received money from vaccine makers through relationships that
included: sharing a vaccine patent; owning stock in a vaccine company;
payments for research; money to monitor vaccine testing; and funding
for academic departments.

In fact, according to UPI, the CDC itself is in the vaccine business.
Under a 1980 law, UPI found the CDC had 28 licensing agreements with
drug companies and one university for vaccines or vaccine-related
products and eight ongoing projects to collaborate on new vaccines.

For instance, the CDC and SmithKline Beecham worked together on the
Lyme-disease vaccine. A 1992 CDC activity report, obtained by UPI,
says the agency had an agreement "with SmithKline Beecham that
currently funds three positions at (the CDC) for the purpose of
providing information of use in developing advanced test methods and
vaccine candidates."

In June 2001, the General Accounting Office delivered a report on the
issue to Senator Chris Dodd, (D-Conn), that noted that CDC employees
"are listed on two Lyme-disease related patents" including "a 1993
joint patent between CDC and SmithKline Beecham Corporation." The
report also said that six of 12 consultants working for the CDC on
Lyme vaccines "reported at least one interest related to a vaccine

According to CDC meeting transcripts where the committee weighed its
recommendation, 3 had conflicts of interest with SmithKlineBeecham.
The LYMERIX lyme-disease vaccine was approved by the CDC on February
18, 1999, and by October of 2000, more than 1.4 million people had
received the vaccine.

But 18 months later, according to UPI, in February 2002, SmithKline
Beecham pulled the vaccine off the market claiming that sales of
LYMERIX were insufficient to justify the continued investment.
However, according to UPI, the company also faced hundreds of lawsuits
by people who said they suffered side effects from the vaccines.

The government's database at the time, listed possible side effects
from LYMERIX as 640 emergency room visits, 34 life-threatening
reactions, 77 hospitalizations, 198 disabilities and six deaths after
people took the shots since the CDC endorsed it, according to UPI.

UPI also found other cases where vaccines endorsed by the panel were
pulled off the market after a number of people suffered devastating
side effects, and some died.

Congressman Dan Burton, (R-Ind), had already been investigating the
advisory panel for several years, and told UPI that the conflicts of
interest were a major problem. "This presents a real paradox," he
said, "when the CDC routinely allows scientists with blatant conflicts
of interest to serve on influential advisory committees that make
recommendations on new vaccines, as well as policy matters."

"All the while these same scientists," Representative Burton said,
"have financial ties, academic affiliations, and other vested
interests in the products and companies for which they are supposed to
be providing unbiased oversight."

An August 2001 report on the investigation by Rep Burton's House
Government Reform Committee, stated that "four out of eight CDC
advisory committee members who voted to approve guidelines for the
rotavirus vaccine in June 1998 had financial ties to pharmaceutical
companies that were developing different versions of the vaccine."

Critic say the conflicts of interest of Dr Paul Offit while sitting on
the advisory panel could not be more blatant. He was part of the team
that mandated the use of the RotaVirus vaccine, even though he
received a $350,000 grant from Merck to develop the vaccine, shared
the patent, and was paid to go around the country teaching doctors
that vaccines were safe, according to the Wall Street Journal.

UPI discovered that Merck also had bought and distributed copies of a
book written by Dr Offit titled, "What Every Parent Should Know About
Vaccines," to physicians with a Dear Doctor letter that stated:"Merck
Vaccine Division is pleased to present you with a copy of the recent
publication, 'What Every Parent Should Know About Vaccines.'"

"The authors designed the book," Merck's letter told doctors, "to
answer questions parents have about vaccines and to dispel
misinformation about vaccines that sometimes appears in the public

The book had a list price of $14.95, and Dr Offit told UPI that he did
not know how many copies Merck had purchased.

In 2001, Congressman Burton's investigation also found conflicts of
interest with the then chairman of the advisory panel, Dr John Modlin,
a Professor at Dartmouth Medical School, who owned $26,000 worth of
Merck stock.

In a phone interview in 2003, Dr Modlin told UPI that he had sold the
Merck stock, but that he had recently agreed to chair a committee to
oversee Merck vaccine clinical trials.

"Meeting transcripts over the past decade," UPI says, "showed that at
some meetings, half of the members present had potential conflicts
with vaccine manufacturers."

For instance, at a June 2002 meeting, four of the 11 members on the
panel acknowledged conflicts with Wyeth, GlaxoSmithKline, Merck,
Pfizer, Aventis Pasteur, and Bayer. Two of the four conducted research
or vaccine trials and one member was a co-holder of a patent.

The agency is currently facing a major credibility crisis over the
issue of whether vaccines containing the mercury-based preservative,
thimerosal, are responsible for the epidemic of neurological disorders
ranging from ADHD to autism in children all across the country.

The CDC is being accused of research manipulation and cover-ups of
vaccine maker culpability by an ever increasing number of activist
groups and is also facing tough questions from some of the powerful
members of Congress, both Republicans and Democrats alike.

The CDC continues to claim that there is no evidence to support a
connection between the epidemic and thimerosal, which they say is no
longer used in most pediatric vaccines.

It is however, included in the flu vaccine currently recommended for
all pregnant women and children more than 6 months old.

Earlier this year, a group of lawmakers initiated a new investigation
of the matter and basically directed the CDC to butt out. On February
22, 2006, they stated in a letter: "If the federal government is going
to have a study whose results will be broadly accepted, such a study
cannot be led by the CDC," in a letter to Dr David Schwartz, Director
of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences.

The letter was signed by Senators, Joe Lieberman (D-Conn) and Debbie
Stabenow (D-Mich), and members of the House Representatives including,
Dr Dave Weldon, (R-Fla) Chris Smith, (R-NJ), Carolyn Maloney, (D-NY),
Dan Burton, (R-Ind), Joseph Crowley, (D-NY), and Maurice Hinchey, (D-

The Institute of Environmental Health Sciences is part of the National
Institutes of Health, and was asked to convene a panel to decide how
to analyze the CDC database to determine whether autism rates have
dropped since thimerosal was removed from most vaccines.

The controversy picked up traction in April, "National Autism Month,"
when world renowned heavy metal experts, researchers, and physicians
traveled to Washington and rallied on Capital Hill moving the debate
beyond just the parents of autistic children.

This spring, a full-page ad appeared in USA Today, the most widely-
circulated newspaper in the US, and accused the CDC of "causing an
epidemic of autism" by recommending that kids receive a series of
vaccinations that contained thimerosal at least as late as 2001.

The ad quoted one of the most recent and famous advocates to join the
cause, environmental lawyer, Robert F Kennedy Jr, as saying: "It's
time for the CDC to come clean with the American public."

The ad was funded by a coalition of advocacy groups led by Generation
Rescue, and directed readers to the web site, www.PutChildren, to view internal CDC documents, many of which were obtained
under the FOIA, that includes transcripts of meetings and e-mails that
the groups contend support their allegations of a CDC cover-up.

Congressman Weldon has a theory about why the CDC continues the
charade of denying the link between vaccines and autism. "If it is
eventually determined that an entire generation of kids was
essentially poisoned," he says, "a class-action suit against the
federal government could be on the order of hundreds of billions of
dollars, and so there's very good reason for them to try to cover this

And Dr Weldon's prediction is proving true. Vaccine injury lawsuits
are being filed and won against the vaccine makers and the government.
Implemented in 1988, the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of
1986, established a mandatory, federally administered no-fault claims
process for individuals who allege that they were harmed by the
administration of childhood vaccines.

The vaccine compensation fund was created to supposedly ensure an
adequate supply of vaccines, and to stabilize vaccine costs. A small
fee charged on each vaccines funds the program. According to
statistics on the vaccine compensation web site, in fiscal year 2006,
a total of $38.2 million has been paid out in cases involving 47

In what is reported to be one of the largest settlements ever, in July
2006, a quadriplegic boy was awarded $43.1 million. The case alleged
that now 7-year-old, Mario Rodriguez, became a quadriplegic after
receiving a measles, mumps and rubella vaccine on January. 25, 2000.

Under the guidelines of the vaccine compensation fund program, the
lawsuit was filed against the Department of Health and Human Services.
Kansas City attorney, Leland Dempsey, who represented the child, told
the Kansas City Star: "One unusual aspect of the case is that Mario is
expected to have a normal lifespan, and therefore will require more
years of care that will cost more money."

"He will need round-the-clock care, including extensive medical
intervention, throughout his life," Mr Dempsey said.

Many other vaccine related lawsuits have been filed against drug
makers. For instance, Eli Lilly, the company that invented thimerosal
back in the 1930s, informed its shareholders in its 2005 Annual Report
filed with the SEC on April 1, 2006: "We have been named as a
defendant in approximately 340 actions in the U.S., involving
approximately 1,020 claimants, brought in various state courts and
federal district courts on behalf of children with autism or other
neurological disorders."

Lilly also stated, we believe that "the majority of the cases should
not be prosecuted in the courts in which they have been brought
because the underlying claims are subject to the National Childhood
Vaccine Injury Act of 1986."

Under the Act, claims must first be brought before the US Court of
Claims for an award determination under the guidelines established by
the Act. However, as Lilly points out in its filing, "Claimants who
are unsatisfied with their awards under the Act may reject the award
and seek traditional judicial remedies."

Critics of MMR vaccines say Danish researcher’s alleged fraud casts
doubt on studies refuting connection between shots and autism

A Danish autism researcher is being investigated by police for
defrauding an estimated 10 million kroner from Aarhus University while
he was employed there.

Dr. Poul Thorsen, one of the researchers involved in two well-known
autism reports that appeared in the influential New England Journal of
Medicine, was accused of fraud last month by the university and East
Jutland Police have now got involved in the case.

Thorsen resigned on Tuesday from his position in the US as adjunct
professor at Drexel University in Philadephia, Pennsylvania in the
wake of the investigation.

Thorsen’s fraud charges stem from the time of the reports, when he was
employed at Aarhus University. Police are currently investigating the
disappearance of around 10 million kroner from grants given to it by
the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, used to help fund
the autism project.

According to Aarhus University, Thorsen was in charge of appropriating
the funds from the CDC. In addition to the fraud charges, Thorsen was
allegedly working for Emory University in the US since 2003 in
violation of his contract at Aarhus University.

The timing of the investigation and Thorsen’s resignation from Drexel
coincide with a US Court of Federal Claims last Friday, which ruled
against parents asserting that the MMR vaccines were responsible for
their children’s health problems.

Two Danish studies from 2002 and 2003 are at the heart of that issue
because they are widely referred to by groups refuting the vaccine
connection and are considered to be among the most comprehensive
studies ever done on the subject. A spokesman for the US Surgeon
General’s Office called the reports’ conclusions that no connection
exists ‘irrefutable’.

The issue has been one of heated controversy in the US between two
opposing sides – the more powerful one that supports the research and
the one that believes many more studies need to be done in the area.

The first report was based on studies of over 500,000 children born in
Denmark from 1991 through 1998. The study indicated conclusively that
there was no connection between measles, mumps and rubella (MMR)
vaccines and autism.

The other report used a much smaller group in its study but came to
the same conclusion.

Robert Kennedy Jr. has been the most high-profile person to question
the acceptance of the studies’ results, ruffling feathers within the
pharmaceutical industry, the medical profession and with other
politicians. Kennedy came out this week to say that if Thorsen is
found guilty of fraud then it would cast serious doubt on the validity
of both studies.

Numerous internet-based autism groups have also indicated that
Thorsen’s research should be considered compromised if he is

Two other scientists behind the Danish reports, Mads Melbye of Statens
Serum Institut and Kreesten Meldgaard Madsen of Aarhus University
Hospital, told the Philadelphia Enquirer newspaper that Thorsen was
only one researcher in the groups behind the studies and had little or
no influence on the ultimate conclusions.

Denmark ceased to use mercury-based substances in its vaccines in
1992. However, autism cases continue to rise here as well, although
the percentage continues to be far under that of children in the US.

Many experts also say that the increase can be partly explained by the
fact that more doctors are now recognising the disorder.

1. Vaccines are toxic.

Vaccines contain substances poisonous to humans (i.e. mercury,
formaldehyde, aluminum, etc.) Vaccine package inserts contain this and
other information required by law to be disclosed to the public.
Although these inserts are produced for consumers, doctors do not make
them available to their patients.
Vaccines are grown on and contain foreign tissue and altered genetic
material of both human and animal origin.
2. Immunization (the act of injecting vaccines) depresses and disables
brain and immune function. Honest, unbiased scientific investigation
has shown vaccinations to be a causative factor in many illnesses

Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (aka SIDS, crib or cot death)
Developmental disorders (autism, seizures, mental retardation,
hyperactivity, dyslexia, etc.)
Immune deficiency (i.e. AIDS, Epstein Barre Syndrome, etc.)
Degenerative disease (i.e. muscular dystrophy, multiple sclerosis,
arthritis, cancer, leukemia, lupus, fibromyalgia, etc.)
3. The high rate of adverse vaccine reactions is being ignored and
denied by conventional medicine.

Prior to 1990, doctors were not legally required to report adverse
reactions to the Center for Disease Control (CDC).
Adverse reactions are considered "normal", are ignored or diagnosed as
other diseases. Even with this poor system, reported damage is
Despite their current legal obligation, less than 10% of doctors
report the damage they witness to the CDC.
Throughout history, many prominent medical and non-medical health
professionals around the world have voiced their vehement opposition
to vaccination calling it scientific fraud.
4. Mass Vaccination Programs systematically and recklessly endanger
the public while disregarding our rights.

Since vaccination breaks the skin, it is technically a surgery. All
surgeries by law require informed consent. Informed consent is rarely
attained before vaccines are administered.
Doctors vaccinate the unwitting and uninformed. The vaccine
manufacturers' package inserts which contain biased industry claims
and the bare minimum required by law to reveal are not routinely made
available to consumers so that they can make a more informed choice.
Double-talk and unethical enforcement such as threats, intimidation
and coercion are used to ensure vaccination compliance.
5. There is no proof that vaccinations are safe or effective.

There are no control group studies. Authorities consider that "to not
vaccinate" is unethical and have refused to study unvaccinated
volunteers. If control studies were done according to honest science,
vaccination would be outlawed.
Studies which have been done are not designed to eliminate the
examiners bias. Authorities who compile and report disease statistics
work closely with and have a vested interest in companies which
produce the vaccines. In other industries, this kind of bias is not
tolerated. Injuries and deaths in these studies are attributed to
anything but vaccination to skew the results and make it appear that
vaccines have some merit.
6. Laws allow drug companies to violate the public trust.

In private vaccine damage suits, information is revealed condemning
vaccines as deadly.
Vaccine manufacturers use "gag orders" as a leverage tool in vaccine
damage legal settlements to restrict the plaintiff from disclosing to
the public the truth about the dangerous nature of vaccines. Our
government has allowed these unethical tactics to be used which
jeopardize public welfare.
7. The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1987 is a pacifier.

This compensation program pretends to acknowledge the existence of
vaccine damage by making "right" the wrongs done. Nothing in this Act
attempts to avert these adverse events from happening in the future.
This Act is the result of vaccine producers pressuring the government
to "immunize" them from private lawsuits which can run an average of
$4 million per case.
The fund is made up of tax added into the cost to the consumer of each
vaccine, thereby making vaccine consumers pay for one another's and
perhaps their own injury; the vaccine manufacturers have made
themselves quite "immune" from accountability. In recent years it has
become even more difficult to be compensated through this program due
to the parameters for determining vaccine damage changing and coroners
now ruling out vaccine damage and charging the parents with Shaken
Baby Syndrome.
8. Private insurance companies, which do the best liability studies,
have totally abandoned coverage for damage to life and property due

Acts of God
Nuclear war and nuclear power plant accidents
9. Vaccination is not emergency medicine.

It is claimed that vaccines avert a possible future risk and yet
people are pressured to decide on the spot. A doctor's use of fear and
intimidation to force compliance is not ethical. Vaccines are drugs
with potential serious adverse reactions. Time and forethought should
be given before a decision is made.
10. There is no law enforcing vaccination for babies or anyone else.

Vaccination is linked with school attendance but is not compulsory.
Exemptions from vaccinations, although restricted and monitored, are
part of every state public health law and can be expanded by public
Departments of Health, Education and the American Medical Association
personnel profit from the sale of vaccines. They keep the existence of
and details about exemptions relatively unknown.
About the Book

Dr. Tenpenny provides an in-depth examination of the adverse reactions
to vaccines. With incisive reasoning and over 8,000 hours of research
over the course of eight years in preparation for writing this book,
Saying No To Vaccines is an eye-opening educational guide which will
give parents and adults the information they need to have confidence
when they say no to vaccines. Citations taken directly from CDC
documents and respected peer-reviewed journals are facts not easily
refuted by conventional pro-vaccination dogma.

Most people are not aware that they should be asking the question -
Should I vaccinate?

Since the first mandatory vaccination law was passed in the U.S.
(1903), the belief in vaccination has been promoted by a pro-vaccine
government, a pro-vaccine school system and a pro-vaccine western
allopathic medicine industry.

The government:

The U.S. government is the largest purchaser of vaccines in the
country. In fact, nearly 30 percent of the Centers for Disease
Control’s (CDC) annual budget is composed of purchasing vaccines and
ensuring vaccination is completed for every child in the country.
Laws have been passed to protect vaccine manufactures from liability
while at the same time, state laws require parents to inject their
children with up to 100 vaccination antigens prior to entering school.
If a vaccine injury – or death – occurs after a vaccine, parents
cannot sue the doctor, the drug company or the government; they are
required to petition the Vaccine Court for damages, which can take
years and is often denied.
The schools:

Each state has school vaccination laws which require children of
appropriate age to be vaccinated for several communicable diseases.
State vaccination laws mandate that children be vaccinated prior to
being allowed to attend public or private schools. Failure to
vaccinate children can result in children being denied from attending
school, civil fines and criminal penalties against their parents or
guardians. What schools don’t tell parents is that in every state, an
exemption exists allowing parents to legally refuse vaccines and
allowing children to attend school.
The medical industry:

The medical industry advocates vaccines, often demanding that parents
vaccinate their children or be dismissed from the medical practice. A
sizable portion of a pediatrician’s income is derived from insurance
reimbursement for vaccinations. The ever-expanding vaccination
schedule that includes increasingly more expensive vaccines has been a
source of increased revenues for vaccinating doctors. Unfortunately,
many doctors have not read the package insert for the vaccines which
they so readily inject into their little patients. They are not aware
of the full range of chemicals coming through that needle. As a
parent, grandparent, aunt, uncle, brother, sister or legal guardian
you have the right to know…and to choose.
Parents are busy. They don’t have time to spend hundreds of hours
researching the medical literature about problems associated with
vaccines. Saying No To Vaccines does the work for you. Fully
referenced and indexed, you will refer to this book time and again to
find support for your decisions about vaccinating.

Read the Table of Contents


Saying No to Vaccines is absolute must reading for any rational parent
or individual who is interested in optimal health for their children
and themselves. Dr. Sherri Tenpenny is a brave, heroic, and honorable
physician. ~ Christiane Northrup, MD, best-selling author of Mother-
Daughter Wisdom (Bantam, 2005), The Wisdom of Menopause (Bantam,
revised 2006), and Women's Bodies, Women's Wisdom (Bantam, revised

The Talmudic saying, "He who saves one life, it is as if he saves the
whole world." Dr. Tenpenny's well written, brilliant book, says it
all. Saying No to Vaccines is recommended for all professionals
involved with the treatment of children, all parents and grandparents
concerned about mandated vaccines and all politicians, members of
administrative bodies and medical societies who have the
responsibility of passing vaccine legislation that impact our
children. ~ Mayer Eisenstein, MD, JD, MPH. Under his medical
leadership, doctors with Homefirst Health Services in metropolitan
Chicago have delivered more than 15,000 babies at home. Eisenstein
said. "I don't think we have a single case of autism in an
unvaccinated child."

Saying No to Vaccines paves the way for a greater truths soon to be
revealed. Trust yourself; trust Dr. Tenpenny, this physician has your
best interests at heart. ~Dr. Andrew Moulden BA, MA, MD, PhD. Pres-CEO
CNAPS Medical Devices Inc.; Pres-CEO IMan - I M.A.S.S. Awareness
Network Inc.; Pres-CEO - CPAN - Care Please Autism Network Inc.

About the Author

Dr. Sherri Tenpenny is respected as one of the country's most
knowledgeable and outspoken physicians regarding the impact of
vaccines on health. As a member of the prestigious National Speaker’s
Association, Dr. Tenpenny is an outspoken advocate for free choice in
healthcare, including the right to refuse vaccination. As an
internationally known speaker, she is highly sought after for her
ability to present scientifically sound information regarding
vaccination hazard and warnings that are rarely portrayed by
conventional medicine. Most importantly, she offers hope through her
unique treatments offered at OsteoMed II for those who have been

Dr. Tenpenny is a graduate of the University of Toledo in Toledo,
Ohio. She received her medical training at Kirksville College of
Osteopathic Medicine in Kirksville, Missouri. Dr. Tenpenny is Board
Certified in Emergency Medicine and Osteopathic Manipulative Medicine.
Prior to her career in alternative medicine, Dr. Tenpenny served as
Director of the Emergency Department at Blanchard Valley Regional
Hospital Center in Findlay, Ohio, from 1987 to 1995. In 1994, she and
a partner opened OsteoMed, a medical practice in Findlay limited to
the specialty of osteopathic manipulative medicine. In 1996, Dr.
Tenpenny moved to Strongsville, Ohio, and founded OsteoMed II,
expanding her practice and her vision of combining the best of
conventional and alternative medicine.

From: dr_jeff on
Jan Drew wrote:
> Liar Jeffrey, Peter, Joseph Utz is not a doc, dr_jeff <u...(a)>
> wrote:
>> Peter Bowditch wrote:
>>> dr_jeff <u...(a)> wrote:
>>>> Peter Bowditch wrote:
>>>>> Donna <kevysmo...(a)> wrote:
>>>>>> So, are you saying some can ingest poison chemicals and not have a
>>>>>> reaction, while others can die from it? You dont make any sense.
>>>>> The chemical most commonly used for suicide attempts in Australia is
>>>>> acetaminophen. If this chemical was invented today it would probably
>>>>> not be allowed to be sold without a prescription from a doctor because
>>>>> of its toxicity to the liver, but right now a lethal dose can be
>>>>> purchased in supermarkets for a few dollars.
>>>> The lethal dose of alcohol and gasoline can be purchased for less in
>>>> many places.
>>> Yes, but they aren't commonly used to attempt suicide.
>>>> What is more disturbing is that there are few efforts to make sure that
>>>> there is a safe limit imposed on drugs with acetominophen in them, so
>>>> that people don't take a toxic dose.
>>> I've seen packets of 100 x 500mg pills on sale in a pharmacy for
>>> $4.00. That same pharmacy wouldn't sell me 100mg caffeine tablets.
>> I get my vitamin C in Diet Coke or Pepsi.
> This shows you are not smart.

I was making a joke, talking about caffiene, which is in Diet Pepsi and
Diet Coke. Perhaps you need to grow a sense of humor.

From: Ken on
On May 9, 2:26 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)>

CCPed a shitload of endless BS

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