From: Mark Probert on
On May 2, 8:41 am, Donna <kevysmo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 1, 11:17 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 1, 2:56 pm, Kevysmom <kevysmo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > And wouldn't supporting vaccines and the drug industry, as in this case,
> > > > be supporting a conservative bias, not a liberal one?
>
> > > > Jeff
>
> > > WHY didnt PBS show films of vaccine injured babies in the PICU
> > > fighting for life? They didnt show one vaccine injured baby, WHY?
>
> > Good question....hmmm./.I KNOW!
>
> > Vaccine injured babies do not exist.
>
> MARK!!!!!!!! That is the lamest and cruelest thing Ive ever seen you
> write. Yes, its cruel you knowing very well that vaccines do injury
> babies and actually cause death in babies, so AGAIN why didnt PBS show
> the infants in PICU suffering, yet they showed a baby with measles?

I would have preferred an hour long show of the consequences of not
vaccinating. A nice tour of an iron lung ward, rehab centers where 15
year old children babble because of meningitis destroying their
brains, children wearing hearing aids, blue babies trying to breath
inspite of their diptheria, and things like that.

> Thats not being fair and balanced in journalism.

There are issues that are subject to fair and balanced. Those subjects
have two valid sides. In the issue of vaccination, there is only one
valid side.

Its using FEAR to get
> young parents to keep BLINDLY vaccinating their newborn babies with
> toxins

You whine about fear? Both sides use fear. The difference is that the
fear of these diseases is valid. The "fear" of vaccines is bullshit.
From: Mark Probert on
On May 2, 8:41 am, Donna <kevysmo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 1, 11:17 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 1, 2:56 pm, Kevysmom <kevysmo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > And wouldn't supporting vaccines and the drug industry, as in this case,
> > > > be supporting a conservative bias, not a liberal one?
>
> > > > Jeff
>
> > > WHY didnt PBS show films of vaccine injured babies in the PICU
> > > fighting for life? They didnt show one vaccine injured baby, WHY?
>
> > Good question....hmmm./.I KNOW!
>
> > Vaccine injured babies do not exist.
>
> MARK!!!!!!!! That is the lamest and cruelest thing Ive ever seen you
> write. Yes, its cruel you knowing very well that vaccines do injury
> babies and actually cause death in babies, so AGAIN why didnt PBS show
> the infants in PICU suffering, yet they showed a baby with measles?
> Thats not being fair and balanced in journalism. Its using FEAR to get
> young parents to keep BLINDLY vaccinating their newborn babies with
> toxins
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > Are they scared parents would rather their child have the damn measles
> > > than take a risk of having a dead or severely disabled child from
> > > injecting toxins into their baby?
>
> > > Interesting
>
> > >http://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/
>
> > > PBS show Religion and Ethics is funded by Eli Lilly makers of
> > > thimerosal
>
> > > Funding
> > > Funding for RELIGION & ETHICS NEWSWEEKLY is provided by Lilly
> > > Endowment Inc. with additional support from the Corporation for Public
> > > Broadcasting and Mutual of America Life Insurance Company.
> > >  The Indianapolis-based Lilly Endowment Inc. was founded in 1937 by
> > > three members of the Lilly family through gifts of stock in their
> > > pharmaceutical business, Eli Lilly and Company. The Endowment is a
> > > separate entity from the company, with a distinct governing board,
> > > staff and location, and is devoted to the causes of religion,
> > > education and community development.
>
> > Do you know the meaning of distinct?
>
> > I am on the board of an endowment, and we are totally independent of
> > everything.
>
> And I own the Brooklyn Bridge!

Nope. I co-chair a special scholarship committee to help kids who have
potential to succeed at school, but, for reasons beyond their control,
did not do well in high school. We had a kid this year who the
principal insisted did not deserve an award, but, we did it anyway,
simply because the kid showed potential and his problems were not
within his control.

From: Mark Probert on
On May 2, 6:08 pm, Ja...(a)nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article
> <0b3c12a7-8b8c-477f-ba80-f1163fc89...(a)i9g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>, Mark
>
>
>
>
>
> Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > On May 1, 8:12=A0pm, Ja...(a)nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > In article <ZZednbMOtJFkxEHWnZ2dnUVZ_tydn...(a)giganews.com>, u...(a)msu.edu =
> > wrote:
> > > > Jason wrote:
>
> > > > <...>
>
> > > > > You now know the reason that most people in America (including myself=
> > ) do
> > > > > NOT waste our time watching PBS shows.
>
> > > > Many people choose not to be informed, too.
>
> > > > > PBS has to rely mainly on the gov't
> > > > > for funding.
>
> > > > About 40 to 45% of their funding comes from federal and state sources.
>
> > > > > They do collect donations but as far as I know--most of their
> > > > > funding comes from the government. If it was not for gov't funding, P=
> > BS
> > > > > would have gone out of business many years ago. Most all of their
> > > > > producers and directors are very liberal.
>
> > > > Prove that the news that they report has a liberal bias.
>
> > > > And wouldn't supporting vaccines and the drug industry, as in this case=
> > ,
> > > > be supporting a conservative bias, not a liberal one?
>
> > > > Jeff
>
> > > Jeff,
> > > I do not expect liberals or socialists to even be aware when they watch a
> > > news show on PBS or CNN that they are watching news shows that have a
> > > liberal bias. Just about the only people that can recognize liberal bias
> > > on a PBS or CNN news show are conservatives. Liberals are probably able t=
> > o
> > > notice bias when they watch a news show on the Fox news channel.
> > > jason-
>
> > This is not a liberal-conservative issue. Some very conservative right
> > wingers just made major fools of themselves on this issue.
>
> Liberalism is a mental disorder.-

being a right wingnut is not a mechanical problem.
From: Steven Bornfeld on
Jason wrote:
> In article
> <0b3c12a7-8b8c-477f-ba80-f1163fc89380(a)i9g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>, Mark
> Probert <mark.probert(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On May 1, 8:12=A0pm, Ja...(a)nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>>> In article <ZZednbMOtJFkxEHWnZ2dnUVZ_tydn...(a)giganews.com>, u...(a)msu.edu =
>> wrote:
>>>> Jason wrote:
>>>> <...>
>>>>> You now know the reason that most people in America (including myself=
>> ) do
>>>>> NOT waste our time watching PBS shows.
>>>> Many people choose not to be informed, too.
>>>>> PBS has to rely mainly on the gov't
>>>>> for funding.
>>>> About 40 to 45% of their funding comes from federal and state sources.
>>>>> They do collect donations but as far as I know--most of their
>>>>> funding comes from the government. If it was not for gov't funding, P=
>> BS
>>>>> would have gone out of business many years ago. Most all of their
>>>>> producers and directors are very liberal.
>>>> Prove that the news that they report has a liberal bias.
>>>> And wouldn't supporting vaccines and the drug industry, as in this case=
>> ,
>>>> be supporting a conservative bias, not a liberal one?
>>>> Jeff
>>> Jeff,
>>> I do not expect liberals or socialists to even be aware when they watch a
>>> news show on PBS or CNN that they are watching news shows that have a
>>> liberal bias. Just about the only people that can recognize liberal bias
>>> on a PBS or CNN news show are conservatives. Liberals are probably able t=
>> o
>>> notice bias when they watch a news show on the Fox news channel.
>>> jason-
>> This is not a liberal-conservative issue. Some very conservative right
>> wingers just made major fools of themselves on this issue.
>
> Liberalism is a mental disorder.
>
>

Are most alt. health people right wingers? It's not intuitive to me.

Steve (mostly lefty)
From: dr_jeff on
Steven Bornfeld wrote:
> Jason wrote:
>> In article
>> <0b3c12a7-8b8c-477f-ba80-f1163fc89380(a)i9g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>, Mark
>> Probert <mark.probert(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On May 1, 8:12=A0pm, Ja...(a)nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>>>> In article <ZZednbMOtJFkxEHWnZ2dnUVZ_tydn...(a)giganews.com>,
>>>> u...(a)msu.edu =
>>> wrote:
>>>>> Jason wrote:
>>>>> <...>
>>>>>> You now know the reason that most people in America (including
>>>>>> myself=
>>> ) do
>>>>>> NOT waste our time watching PBS shows.
>>>>> Many people choose not to be informed, too.
>>>>>> PBS has to rely mainly on the gov't
>>>>>> for funding.
>>>>> About 40 to 45% of their funding comes from federal and state sources.
>>>>>> They do collect donations but as far as I know--most of their
>>>>>> funding comes from the government. If it was not for gov't
>>>>>> funding, P=
>>> BS
>>>>>> would have gone out of business many years ago. Most all of their
>>>>>> producers and directors are very liberal.
>>>>> Prove that the news that they report has a liberal bias.
>>>>> And wouldn't supporting vaccines and the drug industry, as in this
>>>>> case=
>>> ,
>>>>> be supporting a conservative bias, not a liberal one?
>>>>> Jeff
>>>> Jeff,
>>>> I do not expect liberals or socialists to even be aware when they
>>>> watch a
>>>> news show on PBS or CNN that they are watching news shows that have a
>>>> liberal bias. Just about the only people that can recognize liberal
>>>> bias
>>>> on a PBS or CNN news show are conservatives. Liberals are probably
>>>> able t=
>>> o
>>>> notice bias when they watch a news show on the Fox news channel.
>>>> jason-
>>> This is not a liberal-conservative issue. Some very conservative right
>>> wingers just made major fools of themselves on this issue.
>>
>> Liberalism is a mental disorder.
>>
>>
>
> Are most alt. health people right wingers? It's not intuitive to me.
>
> Steve (mostly lefty)

Actually, most alt. health people are unable to determine good data from
bad. Alternative health is, by definition, unproven. Once it is proven,
it is considered part of mainstream medicine. Another name for
alternative medicine is con-med or conjecture-based medicine.

Jeff
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