From: Jason on
In article <sImdnUMDLvooaHzWnZ2dnUVZ_roAAAAA(a)giganews.com>, utz(a)msu.edu wrote:

> Jason wrote:
>
> <...>
>
> > Jeff,
> > Why are you an advocate for a known poison that is also a known
> > neurotoxin?
>
> No, I am not. I am an advocate for vaccination, which save lives. While
> I am glad that thimerasol has been removed from most vaccines, there is
> no evidence that the chemical poses a risk at the very small doses used.
> And, there is no evidence that vaccines cause autism, as some suggest.
>
> > You remind me of the people that are advocates for tobacco. Do
> > you work for a drug company that sells vaccines that contain mercury?
>
> No, I work for no drug company. What I say is my own opinion, not those
> of any company.
>
> Jeff

Jeff,
Thanks for answering my questions. I don't have problems with mercury free
vaccines that have been properly tested. The vaccine for swine flu was NOT
properly tested so I did NOT get that vaccine. I do have a problem with
any vaccine that contains mercury since mercury is poison and is a
neurotoxin. When even small amount of a neurotoxin is injected into a
child, it is like playing with fire. Children (esp. babies) do not have
fully developed immune system. It's for that reason, neurotoxins--even in
small doses--should not be given to children. At the very least, doctors
or nurses should test children to determine if they have an allergic
reaction to mercury. If they do not have an allergic reaction to
mercury--give them the vaccine. An even better option would be to remove
thimerasol from all vaccines. Do you see my point?
jason


From: Mark Probert-Drew on
On May 5, 8:53 pm, Ja...(a)nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <sImdnUMDLvooaHzWnZ2dnUVZ_roAA...(a)giganews.com>, u...(a)msu.edu wrote:
> > Jason wrote:
>
> > <...>
>
> > > Jeff,
> > > Why are you an advocate for a known poison that is also a known
> > > neurotoxin?
>
> > No, I am not. I am an advocate for vaccination, which save lives. While
> > I am glad that thimerasol has been removed from most vaccines, there is
> > no evidence that the chemical poses a risk at the very small doses used..
> > And, there is no evidence that vaccines cause autism, as some suggest.
>
> > > You remind me of the people that are advocates for tobacco. Do
> > > you work for a drug company that sells vaccines that contain mercury?
>
> > No, I work for no drug company. What I say is my own opinion, not those
> > of any company.
>
> > Jeff
>
> Jeff,
> Thanks for answering my questions. I don't have problems with mercury free
> vaccines that have been properly tested. The vaccine for swine flu was NOT
> properly tested so I did NOT get that vaccine.

Sure it was. It was manufactured in exactly the same manner as all
previous flu vaccines, and underwent testing.

I do have a problem with
> any vaccine that contains mercury since mercury is poison and is a
> neurotoxin.

However, dose is what is important, and the dose used is miniscule. It
is not toxic at the dose used.

When even small amount of a neurotoxin is injected into a
> child, it is like playing with fire. Children (esp. babies) do not have
> fully developed immune system.

The immune system of babies is just fine. They are dealing with
hundreds, if not thousands, of antigens each day.

It's for that reason, neurotoxins--even in
> small doses--should not be given to children. At the very least, doctors
> or nurses should test children to determine if they have an allergic
> reaction to mercury.

Mercury allergy is extraordinarily rare. Since a child can get all the
vaccines without Thimerosal, this is a wasted step.

If they do not have an allergic reaction to
> mercury--give them the vaccine. An even better option would be to remove
> thimerasol from all vaccines.

That has been done.

> Do you see my point?

Your point is that you are nearly a decade out of date?
From: Mark Probert-Drew on
On May 5, 7:36 am, Donna <kevysmo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:


> WHY was there an urgent rush to INJECT pregnant women with mercury via
> the flu vaccine right after mercury was removed from childhood
> vaccines?

Hmmm..because the flu posed a risk to the fetus that outweighed any
other risk? Yes, that must be it.

You know this is the most critical time to keep women away
> from mercury as the fetus acts as a sponge soaking up heavy metals
> from the mothers body, trapping it in its own.

Got proof? Do not forget the URL.

> There was ONE study done on the results of injecting pregnant women
> with mercury, The idiots only followed the babies for a couple of
> months after they were born, and observed the babies had no  specific
> "problems"  

Just what I thought. The mercury had been fully excreted by then.
Voila! No need to continue.

But as a mother to a severe/profoundly disabled child, I
> know that MOST babies that are severely/profoundly disabled dont show
> symptoms until after six months of age, and this was true for the
> babies born with mercury poisoning in Minamata Japan during the 1950's
> and 1970's

Which is wholly irrelevant to the issue of vaccines.

> "OEHHA (Office of Environmental Health Hazard Assesment) reports;
>
> "The scientific evidence that PMA and Thimerosal cause reproductive
> toxcitity is CLEAR and VOLUMINOUS.
>
> The evidence for its reproductive toxcitity includes severe mental
> retardation or malformations in human offspring who were poisoned
> when thier mothers were exposed to ethylmercury or thimerosal while
> pregnant."
>
> http://www.oehha.ca.gov/prop65/CRNR_notices/pdf_zip/hgbayer1.pdf
>
> Our world is FULL of real sick, greedy, bastards!-

Yeah, BigFuneral, BigHospital, BigDisabledKids, etc. all are gleeful
that the anti-vaxxers, like you, exist.

From: Donna on
On May 5, 10:49 am, Happy Oyster <happy.oys...(a)ariplex.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 5 May 2010 04:36:42 -0700 (PDT), Donna <kevysmo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >WHY was there an urgent rush to INJECT pregnant women with mercury via
> >the flu vaccine right after mercury was removed from childhood
> >vaccines? You know this is the most critical time to keep women away
> >from mercury as the fetus acts as a sponge soaking up heavy metals
> >from the mothers body, trapping it in its own.
>
> How much fish do pregnant women eat?


Thats a silly question, How am I to know how much fish anyone eats?
How much fish do you eat?
>
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From: Donna on
On May 5, 12:08 pm, "Peter B." <.@.> wrote:
> "Donna" <kevysmo...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:011f1119-0c34-4524-99e5-8bddb73ac0f1(a)g21g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> On May 4, 8:47 am, "Peter B." <.@.> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Donna" <kevysmo...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:f3991698-8459-487c-b3b9-db56def36f14(a)d39g2000yqa.googlegroups.com....
> > On May 3, 7:45 pm, "Peter B." <.@.> wrote:
>
> > > "Donna" <kevysmo...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:665d9777-4730-48d7-9ca8-f97c6a3a1bf7(a)o11g2000yqj.googlegroups.com....
> > > On May 2, 10:51 am, "Peter B." <.@.> wrote:
>
> > > > "Donna" <kevysmo...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > > >news:dc8afd0a-9caf-43b9-a7bf-16682e4c64f3(a)r34g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
> > > > On May 1, 11:17 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 1, 2:56 pm, Kevysmom <kevysmo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > And wouldn't supporting vaccines and the drug industry, as in
> > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > case,
> > > > > > > be supporting a conservative bias, not a liberal one?
>
> > > > > > > Jeff
>
> > > > > > WHY didnt PBS show films of vaccine injured babies in the PICU
> > > > > > fighting for life? They didnt show one vaccine injured baby, WHY?
>
> > > > > Good question....hmmm./.I KNOW!
>
> > > > > Vaccine injured babies do not exist.
>
> > > > MARK!!!!!!!! That is the lamest and cruelest thing Ive ever seen you
> > > > write. Yes, its cruel you knowing very well that vaccines do injury
> > > > babies and actually cause death in babies, so AGAIN why didnt PBS show
> > > > the infants in PICU suffering, yet they showed a baby with measles?
> > > > Thats not being fair and balanced in journalism. Its using FEAR to get
> > > > young parents to keep BLINDLY vaccinating their newborn babies with
> > > > toxins
>
> > > > > > Are they scared parents would rather their child have the damn
> > > > > > measles
> > > > > > than take a risk of having a dead or severely disabled child from
> > > > > > injecting toxins into their baby?
>
> > > > > > Interesting
>
> > > > > >http://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/
>
> > > > > > PBS show Religion and Ethics is funded by Eli Lilly makers of
> > > > > > thimerosal
>
> > > > > > Funding
> > > > > > Funding for RELIGION & ETHICS NEWSWEEKLY is provided by Lilly
> > > > > > Endowment Inc. with additional support from the Corporation for
> > > > > > Public
> > > > > > Broadcasting and Mutual of America Life Insurance Company.
> > > > > > The Indianapolis-based Lilly Endowment Inc. was founded in 1937 by
> > > > > > three members of the Lilly family through gifts of stock in their
> > > > > > pharmaceutical business, Eli Lilly and Company. The Endowment is a
> > > > > > separate entity from the company, with a distinct governing board,
> > > > > > staff and location, and is devoted to the causes of religion,
> > > > > > education and community development.
>
> > > > > Do you know the meaning of distinct?
>
> > > > > I am on the board of an endowment, and we are totally independent of
> > > > > everything.
>
> > > > And I own the Brooklyn Bridge!
> > > > ============================================
> > > > Then please repair it
>
> > > Sure, thing, :o) But do you mind contributing to the "Repair the
> > > Brooklyn Bridge Foundation"
> > > ===============================================
> > > I gave at the office. ;O)
>
> > YOUR check bounced!
> > ================================================
> > Darn, I was wondering about that when I paid for my small jet boat.-
>
> Oh, I see how you are, you SELFISH person!
> =================================================
> Yes, I have been guilty of that on more than one occasion.
> In this case I got rid of that boat as I can only use it occasionally and
> got a fast car, the downside is that it requires frequent tune-ups at 15
> grand each. Guess the donation for the bridge will be on hold. :(-


Are you teasing me? What kind of car requires 15k just for a tune-
up? ;o)
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