From: Dan Sullivan on
On Jul 20, 10:34 am, "Dragon's Girl" <bettywir...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 20, 1:07 am, Greegor <Greego...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >http://youtube.com/watch?v=1YqMxvPgnzc
>
> > Notice how this caseworker really has
> > NOTHING yet is asserting that the child
> > would be removed because of the
> > Dad's refusal to submit without a warrant.
>
> > Dan Sullivan, Did this Dad do it right?
>
> We'll see if he did things right if DFS shows back up with a warrant.

I don't know where the vid was made.

But I believe in some states a child can't be removed by CPS on an anonymous
report.

And the CW mentioned the District Attny's office.

Was he bypassing Family Court with an anonymous CAN report?

The CW appeared to use all the coercive "hot words" he was taught.


From: LK on
On Jul 20, 9:44 am, Dan Sullivan <dsull...(a)optonline.net> wrote:
> On Jul 20, 9:07 am, LK <Patis...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 20, 8:05 am, Dan Sullivan <dsull...(a)optonline.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 20, 2:07 am, Greegor <Greego...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >http://youtube.com/watch?v=1YqMxvPgnzc
>
> > > > Notice how this caseworker really has
> > > > NOTHING yet is asserting that the child
> > > > would be removed because of the
> > > > Dad's refusal to submit without a warrant.
>
> > > > Dan Sullivan, Did this Dad do it right?
>
> > > Post your opinion, grag.
>
> > Come on Dan. Is that a difficult question for you?  Why don't you just
> > answer it?
>
> Because I've posted what I recommed people do when CPS is at their
> door more times than I care to count.
>

Bullshit, you love to repeat yourself.

> And grag knows this.
>

So does everybody else.

> He can copy and paste what I've already said.

You yourself said that every case is different Dan. Put your great
advice into the proper context. How would you have done things
differently from what the father did in this video, you know, that
would have given you the upper hand over CPS from the start? Think of
it as opportunity for you to prove your superior knowledge in a
specific context.

From: LK on
On Jul 20, 10:57 am, "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...(a)optonline.net> wrote:
> On Jul 20, 10:34 am, "Dragon's Girl" <bettywir...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 20, 1:07 am, Greegor <Greego...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >http://youtube.com/watch?v=1YqMxvPgnzc
>
> > > Notice how this caseworker really has
> > > NOTHING yet is asserting that the child
> > > would be removed because of the
> > > Dad's refusal to submit without a warrant.
>
> > > Dan Sullivan, Did this Dad do it right?
>
> > We'll see if he did things right if DFS shows back up with a warrant.
>
> I don't know where the vid was made.
>
> But I believe in some states a child can't be removed by CPS on an anonymous
> report.
>
> And the CW mentioned the District Attny's office.
>
> Was he bypassing Family Court with an anonymous CAN report?
>
> The CW appeared to use all the coercive "hot words" he was taught.

Did the father do the right thing or not?
From: Dan Sullivan on

"LK" <Patism66(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:76a06f89-d4c7-4e3a-b851-d122db39deb6(a)26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 20, 10:57 am, "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...(a)optonline.net> wrote:
> On Jul 20, 10:34 am, "Dragon's Girl" <bettywir...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 20, 1:07 am, Greegor <Greego...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >http://youtube.com/watch?v=1YqMxvPgnzc
>
> > > Notice how this caseworker really has
> > > NOTHING yet is asserting that the child
> > > would be removed because of the
> > > Dad's refusal to submit without a warrant.
>
> > > Dan Sullivan, Did this Dad do it right?
>
> > We'll see if he did things right if DFS shows back up with a warrant.
>
> I don't know where the vid was made.
>
> But I believe in some states a child can't be removed by CPS on an
> anonymous
> report.
>
> And the CW mentioned the District Attny's office.
>
> Was he bypassing Family Court with an anonymous CAN report?
>
> The CW appeared to use all the coercive "hot words" he was taught.

Did the father do the right thing or not?

From what I saw.


From: joe on
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:57:35 -0400, Dan Sullivan <dsulldan(a)optonline.net>
wrote:

> On Jul 20, 10:34 am, "Dragon's Girl" <bettywir...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Jul 20, 1:07 am, Greegor <Greego...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >http://youtube.com/watch?v=1YqMxvPgnzc
>>
>> > Notice how this caseworker really has
>> > NOTHING yet is asserting that the child
>> > would be removed because of the
>> > Dad's refusal to submit without a warrant.
>>
>> > Dan Sullivan, Did this Dad do it right?
>>
>> We'll see if he did things right if DFS shows back up with a warrant.
>
> I don't know where the vid was made.
>
> But I believe in some states a child can't be removed by CPS on an
> anonymous
> report.


It's strange -- some CPS give little weight to anonymous reports, while
others roll out the armoured vehicles and steroid abusers with M-16's to
take every kid in sight. Go figure.

To legally remove a child without a court order requires a reasonable
belief that the child is in imminent danger of harm. IMHO, an anonymous
report doesn't rise to the level of a reasonable belief.



> And the CW mentioned the District Attny's office.
>
> Was he bypassing Family Court with an anonymous CAN report?
>
> The CW appeared to use all the coercive "hot words" he was taught.
>
>



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