From: Mark Probert on
On Nov 22, 11:10 pm, "Peter B" <origin...(a)frag.com> wrote:
> "Jan Drew" <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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> news:d59b30e6-0afe-4578-9df3-6ccabf5408a3(a)e20g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 18, 9:08 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Nov 17, 9:19 pm, PeterB - Original <p...(a)mytrashmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Nov 17, 9:16 pm, "Peter B" <origin...(a)frag.com> wrote:
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> > > > "Jan Drew" <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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> > > >news:2d176624-131b-4322-8b36-de7122cda681(a)s15g2000yqs.googlegroups.com...
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> > > > > "john" <nos...(a)bt.com> wrote in message
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> > > > >http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1939575,00.html
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> > > > A preliminary autopsy revealed that the teacher died of an
> > > > apparent
> > > > heart attack while playing basketball, and a ministry spokesperson
> > > > told
> > > > the China Daily newspaper that the death was a "coincidental
> > > > medical
> > > > incident" and not related to the vaccine. No details on the second
> > > > victim have been released thus far.
>
> > > None of which proves vaccine safety. The fact remains --  
> > > vaccines
> > > are unpredictable and dangerous.
>
> > Man, are you desperate.
>
> Fact the facts, Mark S Probert.
>
> None of which proves vaccine safety.   The fact remains -- vaccines
> are unpredictable and dangerous.
> ====================================================
> Yet you too received vaccines.-

yes, she was vaccinated to prevent getting a clue. Works 100%.

From: Mark Probert on
On Nov 22, 11:13 pm, "Peter B" <origin...(a)frag.com> wrote:
> "Jan Drew" <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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> news:f5a70ec6-4d13-44c1-be29-cbb1df9209bd(a)k9g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 17, 8:42 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Nov 17, 8:33 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
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> > > On Nov 17, 8:27 pm, "Peter B" <origin...(a)frag.com> wrote:
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> > > > "john" <nos...(a)bt.com> wrote in message
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> > > >news:lJednURLTJCKuZ7WnZ2dnUVZ8i2dnZ2d(a)bt.com...
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> > >http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1939575,00.html
>
> > A preliminary autopsy revealed that the teacher died of an apparent
> > heart attack while playing basketball, and a ministry spokesperson
> > told
> > the China Daily newspaper that the death was a "coincidental medical
> > incident" and not related to the vaccine. No details on the second
> > victim have been released thus far
>
> Chinese health officials reported on Nov. 13 the first deaths in
> people who received the H1N1 vaccine. The Ministry of Health announced
> that the two people, including a teacher from Hunan province, died
> hours after receiving their inoculations. Since September, when the
> ministry began its H1N1 immunization program, 12 million Chinese have
> received the pandemic flu
> ====================================================
> Jan is exceptionally dumb tonight, 12 million received vaccine, 2 died
> neither of which died from vaccine complications.

That is an incidence of 0.000000166666667%.

I think staying in bed all day is more dangerous.


>
> IOW's they wasted vaccines on two people who were going to die anyhow,
> like hulda.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

From: PeterB - Original on
On Nov 23, 1:54 am, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn...(a)ratbags.com> wrote:
> PeterB - Original <p...(a)mytrashmail.com> wrote:
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> >On Nov 23, 1:00 am, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn...(a)ratbags.com> wrote:
> >> PeterB - Original <p...(a)mytrashmail.com> wrote:
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> >> >And so far you've refused to produce a single
> >> >citation of published scientific data to make your case for vaccine
> >> >safety.
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> >> I told you where to find thousands of papers. You refused to look.
>
> >What you did was provide a meaningless search query, as I
> >proved the other day.  Remember?
>
> What I remember is that you said that something didn't exist.

I was referring to RCT data on vaccine effectiveness and safety. The
one such study I've seen was done a few decades ago, but it was very
small and surveilled just a few months. Your meaningless word string
search results, as much fun as you have doing them, prove nothing.

> I told
> you where to find thousands of instances. You refused to look.

Since you can't cite a particular study to back your false claims,
I'll take that as an admission that you can't.
From: PeterB - Original on
On Nov 23, 10:15 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 22, 11:13 pm, "Peter B" <origin...(a)frag.com> wrote:
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> > "Jan Drew" <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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> >news:f5a70ec6-4d13-44c1-be29-cbb1df9209bd(a)k9g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
> > On Nov 17, 8:42 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 17, 8:33 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Nov 17, 8:27 pm, "Peter B" <origin...(a)frag.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > "john" <nos...(a)bt.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > >news:lJednURLTJCKuZ7WnZ2dnUVZ8i2dnZ2d(a)bt.com...
>
> > > >http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1939575,00.html
>
> > > A preliminary autopsy revealed that the teacher died of an apparent
> > > heart attack while playing basketball, and a ministry spokesperson
> > > told
> > > the China Daily newspaper that the death was a "coincidental medical
> > > incident" and not related to the vaccine. No details on the second
> > > victim have been released thus far
>
> > Chinese health officials reported on Nov. 13 the first deaths in
> > people who received the H1N1 vaccine. The Ministry of Health announced
> > that the two people, including a teacher from Hunan province, died
> > hours after receiving their inoculations. Since September, when the
> > ministry began its H1N1 immunization program, 12 million Chinese have
> > received the pandemic flu
> > ====================================================
> > Jan is exceptionally dumb tonight, 12 million received vaccine, 2 died
> > neither of which died from vaccine complications.
>
> That is an incidence of 0.000000166666667%.
>
> I think staying in bed all day is more dangerous.

Believing in your fairy tales certainly is. Two points:

1) Among 30 countries with childhood vaccination programs, the one
with the highest mortality rate for children under 5yrs of age is the
country with the largest number of childhood vaccines. That country
is the USA.

2) Childhood mortality rates in countries with the LEAST number of
vaccines in their early immunization schedules are those with the
LOWEST childhood mortality rates.

Vaccines are unpredictable and dangerous, period.
From: Jan Drew on

> On Nov 22, 10:39�pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:

Chinese health officials reported on Nov. 13 the first deaths in
people who received the H1N1 vaccine. The Ministry of Health
announced
that the two people, including a teacher from Hunan province, died
hours after receiving their inoculations. Since September, when the
ministry began its H1N1 immunization program, 12 million Chinese have
received the pandemic flu