From: Peter Parry on
On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 14:52:37 -0600, "Kat" <xkatx(a)none.com> wrote:

>That's just a few. Let's talk about pure ignorance. When it comes to our
>children, ignorance is not bliss.

As ignorance is what is promoted by the likes of JABS it seems that
for some it is indeed bliss.
From: Peter B. on
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>>>> Hi Im new and just joined just to say unsure of link to my daughters
>>>> illnesses which are autoimmune according to her consultant both began
>>>> about 3 weeks after her 2nd jab of cervarix before that she was a
>>>> healthy teenage girl of 13.
>>>>
>>>> She has been ill since sept 09 until now and missed all of year 9 at
>>>> school due to recurring pancreatitis and ulcerative colitis. Both
>>>> diseases came on after the jab.
>>>>
>>>> After many months of hospitalisation and bloodtests, scans,
>>>> ultrasounds, mrcp scans, xrays, ng tube feeding, colonoscopies she is
>>>> no better and facing her colon having to come out and have a colostomy
>>>> with then another lot of surgery to hopefully reverse it and final
>>>> surgery to complete that hopefully that will sort the colitis out but
>>>> she will still have diarrohea and side effects of all this for life
>>>> then we go to the pancreatitis saga. Another lot of surgery to put
>>>> stent in or cut her imflammed pancreas head off and hope she doesnt get
>>>> diabetes.
>>>>
>>>> I cant prove that this happened because of her jabs but she only
>>>> managed the 2 and has been ill ever since and frankly i would never
>>>> consider another jab in her life for her.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone with any positive comments to help me find out who i report this
>>>> to please do so as at the moment i feel isolated and dont know which
>>>> way to turn.
>>>>
>>>> All i know i have one frightened little girl who has been robbed of a
>>>> normal teenage life right now and facing lots of surgery as none of the
>>>> drugs have worked and reached the end of the line and surgery is in
>>>> consultants opinion the only answer for her now.
>>>>
>>>> If it is a conincident i still think that the vaccine initiated the
>>>> diseases the consultant says her organs are attacking themselves
>>>> somehow and pancreatitis is very rare in children and ulcerative
>>>> colitis isnt that common either.
>>>>
>>>> Liz
>>>>
>>>> e m maggs http://www.jabs.org.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5039
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>>>
>>> We need to stop injecting our children with mercury, sodium chloride,
>>> aluminum and formaldehyde. For something that has no real poof to work
>>> and benefit, we need to not use our children as guinea pigs.
>>> As far as what can be done, I don't know.
>>> I know that I have read about lawsuits and families winning lawsuits
>>> over vaccines. It doesn't fix things, but it just might eventually be
>>> enough to send a message that poisoning our children is not going to be
>>> tolerated. Leaving the public unknowledged isn't right.
>>>
>>
>> Why don't you get informed and up to date rather than spouting of lies
>> and heresay?
>
> Who's the one who is uninformed? Lies and heresay? Clearly you're just
> ignorant.
> http://www.vaccineriskawareness.com/Gardasil-and-Cervarix-The-Cervical-Cancer-Vaccines
>

Nonscientific, heresay, conjecture

> http://vran.org/about-vaccines/vaccine-ingredients/active-ingredients/ingredients-childhood-vaccines-in-canada/
>

Nonscientific, heresay, conjecture

> http://www.rense.com/general59/vvac.htm
>

Out of date, incorrect.

> http://www.janethull.com/newsletter/0706/aspartame_in_the_pink_packet.php
>


Nonscientific, heresay, conjecture


> That's just a few. Let's talk about pure ignorance. When it comes to our
> children, ignorance is not bliss.
>

Then get informed. Why get sucked into so person that has a grudge and is
going all over the place due to what they considered a bad experience and
they have no postive proof?

>> You are of no help to him nor anyone else except for being a useful tool
>> of fearmongers like Chris is.
>
> I don't know Chris, and no one is of any real help for the topic at hand.
> If there's adverse reactions or side effects, what can be offered? A hug?
> A shoulder to cry on? A song and a dance or night out on the town? Is
> there hope that someone will come out and say, "hey, hold up! I have the
> answer! Let me just take whatever out of the child's system and all will
> be well." - that's not going to happen. Information is the best resource.
> As a parent of young children, never once would I ever hope or wish for
> harm on someone's child. I don't care what the situation is, I would not
> ever find it funny or amusing if a child is sick, hurt, suffering, in
> pain.
> I also don't believe for one second that a parent is a "bad" parent
> because they have vaccinated their children for anything - I don't care if
> it's this Cervarix, MMR, DTP or a flu shot. I know that far too many
> people are uninformed or given bad information. Here, anyways, we're told
> that vaccines are standard procedure for children. I've even had others
> ask me if vaccines are necessary to enroll a child in school. Schools and
> the health system push vaccines. Schools, childrens' camps and so on
> always demand a child's immunization records. There's booster clinics
> running towards the end of summer here for children who will be in
> kindergarden come September.
> Too many parents are simply ignorant and uninformed. Clearly you are too.

So here you are passing on invalid material as if it was valid, causing
children to die unnecessarily due to you believing what someone else said or
posted.

It is fine to hug a child, that is what mothers should do, it will help a
sick child feel better, faster. However, it is not a cure for polio.

Stick with your placebo's if you wish, take another sugar pill and pretend
it is the latest hotestm but I would hope you would take better care of your
kid.


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