From: David on
Peter B. wrote:
> "mainframetech" <mainframetech(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:c5888592-1a28-4545-97c3-d611972609c7(a)3g2000vbg.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 1, 2:56 am, "john" <nos...(a)bt.com> wrote:
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------�-----
>>
>> Hi Im new and just joined just to say unsure of link to my daughters
>> illnesses which are autoimmune according to her consultant both began
>> about
>> 3 weeks after her 2nd jab of cervarix before that she was a healthy
>> teenage
>> girl of 13.
>>
>> She has been ill since sept 09 until now and missed all of year 9 at
>> school
>> due to recurring pancreatitis and ulcerative colitis. Both diseases came
>> on
>> after the jab.
>>
>> After many months of hospitalisation and bloodtests, scans, ultrasounds,
>> mrcp scans, xrays, ng tube feeding, colonoscopies she is no better and
>> facing her colon having to come out and have a colostomy with then another
>> lot of surgery to hopefully reverse it and final surgery to complete that
>> hopefully that will sort the colitis out but she will still have diarrohea
>> and side effects of all this for life then we go to the pancreatitis saga.
>> Another lot of surgery to put stent in or cut her imflammed pancreas head
>> off and hope she doesnt get diabetes.
>>
>> I cant prove that this happened because of her jabs but she only managed
>> the
>> 2 and has been ill ever since and frankly i would never consider another
>> jab
>> in her life for her.
>>
>> Anyone with any positive comments to help me find out who i report this to
>> please do so as at the moment i feel isolated and dont know which way to
>> turn.
>>
>> All i know i have one frightened little girl who has been robbed of a
>> normal
>> teenage life right now and facing lots of surgery as none of the drugs
>> have
>> worked and reached the end of the line and surgery is in consultants
>> opinion
>> the only answer for her now.
>>
>> If it is a conincident i still think that the vaccine initiated the
>> diseases
>> the consultant says her organs are attacking themselves somehow and
>> pancreatitis is very rare in children and ulcerative colitis isnt that
>> common either.
>>
>> Liz
>>
>> e m maggshttp://www.jabs.org.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5039
>
> John,
> Given the problems and horrors of some vaccines and vaccination
> programs, I wouldn't doubt that 'liz' has a legitimate complaint.
> Unfortunately, the odds of getting past the huge profits of Big
> Phartma that can pay for lawyers to protect them until the cows come
> home are small. It will take many people working together against the
> various Mommy defenders that are suckered in or paid by the big guys
> to get through to the politicians that trely on the campaign donations
> they get from the guilty.
>
> Chris
> ========================================
> Just one of Chris' paranoia's. He has no learned knowledge.
>
>

Hows YOUR Cervix doing, peter?
From: David on
Peter B. wrote:
> "Kat" <xkatx(a)none.com> wrote in message
> news:kipXn.4340$KT3.884(a)newsfe13.iad...
>> "john" <nospam(a)bt.com> wrote in message
>> news:-aednYZ_ioHzELDRnZ2dnUVZ8m6dnZ2d(a)bt.com...
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Hi Im new and just joined just to say unsure of link to my daughters
>>> illnesses which are autoimmune according to her consultant both began
>>> about 3 weeks after her 2nd jab of cervarix before that she was a healthy
>>> teenage girl of 13.
>>>
>>> She has been ill since sept 09 until now and missed all of year 9 at
>>> school due to recurring pancreatitis and ulcerative colitis. Both
>>> diseases came on after the jab.
>>>
>>> After many months of hospitalisation and bloodtests, scans, ultrasounds,
>>> mrcp scans, xrays, ng tube feeding, colonoscopies she is no better and
>>> facing her colon having to come out and have a colostomy with then
>>> another lot of surgery to hopefully reverse it and final surgery to
>>> complete that hopefully that will sort the colitis out but she will still
>>> have diarrohea and side effects of all this for life then we go to the
>>> pancreatitis saga. Another lot of surgery to put stent in or cut her
>>> imflammed pancreas head off and hope she doesnt get diabetes.
>>>
>>> I cant prove that this happened because of her jabs but she only managed
>>> the 2 and has been ill ever since and frankly i would never consider
>>> another jab in her life for her.
>>>
>>> Anyone with any positive comments to help me find out who i report this
>>> to please do so as at the moment i feel isolated and dont know which way
>>> to turn.
>>>
>>> All i know i have one frightened little girl who has been robbed of a
>>> normal teenage life right now and facing lots of surgery as none of the
>>> drugs have worked and reached the end of the line and surgery is in
>>> consultants opinion the only answer for her now.
>>>
>>> If it is a conincident i still think that the vaccine initiated the
>>> diseases the consultant says her organs are attacking themselves somehow
>>> and pancreatitis is very rare in children and ulcerative colitis isnt
>>> that common either.
>>>
>>> Liz
>>>
>>> e m maggs http://www.jabs.org.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5039
>>>
>> We need to stop injecting our children with mercury, sodium chloride,
>> aluminum and formaldehyde. For something that has no real poof to work
>> and benefit, we need to not use our children as guinea pigs.
>> As far as what can be done, I don't know.
>> I know that I have read about lawsuits and families winning lawsuits over
>> vaccines. It doesn't fix things, but it just might eventually be enough
>> to send a message that poisoning our children is not going to be
>> tolerated. Leaving the public unknowledged isn't right.
>>
>
> Why don't you get informed and up to date rather than spouting of lies and
> heresay?
> You are of no help to him nor anyone else except for being a useful tool of
> fearmongers like Chris is.
>
>

Peter, was your mother so mean that you hate women like you do? Or
was it your daddy?
From: Peter B. on
"David" <me(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Peter B. wrote:
>> "mainframetech" <mainframetech(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:c5888592-1a28-4545-97c3-d611972609c7(a)3g2000vbg.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jul 1, 2:56 am, "john" <nos...(a)bt.com> wrote:
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------�-----
>>>
>>> Hi Im new and just joined just to say unsure of link to my daughters
>>> illnesses which are autoimmune according to her consultant both began
>>> about
>>> 3 weeks after her 2nd jab of cervarix before that she was a healthy
>>> teenage
>>> girl of 13.
>>>
>>> She has been ill since sept 09 until now and missed all of year 9 at
>>> school
>>> due to recurring pancreatitis and ulcerative colitis. Both diseases came
>>> on
>>> after the jab.
>>>
>>> After many months of hospitalisation and bloodtests, scans, ultrasounds,
>>> mrcp scans, xrays, ng tube feeding, colonoscopies she is no better and
>>> facing her colon having to come out and have a colostomy with then
>>> another
>>> lot of surgery to hopefully reverse it and final surgery to complete
>>> that
>>> hopefully that will sort the colitis out but she will still have
>>> diarrohea
>>> and side effects of all this for life then we go to the pancreatitis
>>> saga.
>>> Another lot of surgery to put stent in or cut her imflammed pancreas
>>> head
>>> off and hope she doesnt get diabetes.
>>>
>>> I cant prove that this happened because of her jabs but she only managed
>>> the
>>> 2 and has been ill ever since and frankly i would never consider another
>>> jab
>>> in her life for her.
>>>
>>> Anyone with any positive comments to help me find out who i report this
>>> to
>>> please do so as at the moment i feel isolated and dont know which way to
>>> turn.
>>>
>>> All i know i have one frightened little girl who has been robbed of a
>>> normal
>>> teenage life right now and facing lots of surgery as none of the drugs
>>> have
>>> worked and reached the end of the line and surgery is in consultants
>>> opinion
>>> the only answer for her now.
>>>
>>> If it is a conincident i still think that the vaccine initiated the
>>> diseases
>>> the consultant says her organs are attacking themselves somehow and
>>> pancreatitis is very rare in children and ulcerative colitis isnt that
>>> common either.
>>>
>>> Liz
>>>
>>> e m maggshttp://www.jabs.org.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5039
>>
>> John,
>> Given the problems and horrors of some vaccines and vaccination
>> programs, I wouldn't doubt that 'liz' has a legitimate complaint.
>> Unfortunately, the odds of getting past the huge profits of Big
>> Phartma that can pay for lawyers to protect them until the cows come
>> home are small. It will take many people working together against the
>> various Mommy defenders that are suckered in or paid by the big guys
>> to get through to the politicians that trely on the campaign donations
>> they get from the guilty.
>>
>> Chris
>> ========================================
>> Just one of Chris' paranoia's. He has no learned knowledge.
>
> Hows YOUR Cervix doing, peter?

Truly an ignorant question.


From: Peter B. on
"David" <me(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Peter B. wrote:
>> "Kat" <xkatx(a)none.com> wrote in message
>> news:kipXn.4340$KT3.884(a)newsfe13.iad...
>>> "john" <nospam(a)bt.com> wrote in message
>>> news:-aednYZ_ioHzELDRnZ2dnUVZ8m6dnZ2d(a)bt.com...
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Hi Im new and just joined just to say unsure of link to my daughters
>>>> illnesses which are autoimmune according to her consultant both began
>>>> about 3 weeks after her 2nd jab of cervarix before that she was a
>>>> healthy teenage girl of 13.
>>>>
>>>> She has been ill since sept 09 until now and missed all of year 9 at
>>>> school due to recurring pancreatitis and ulcerative colitis. Both
>>>> diseases came on after the jab.
>>>>
>>>> After many months of hospitalisation and bloodtests, scans,
>>>> ultrasounds, mrcp scans, xrays, ng tube feeding, colonoscopies she is
>>>> no better and facing her colon having to come out and have a colostomy
>>>> with then another lot of surgery to hopefully reverse it and final
>>>> surgery to complete that hopefully that will sort the colitis out but
>>>> she will still have diarrohea and side effects of all this for life
>>>> then we go to the pancreatitis saga. Another lot of surgery to put
>>>> stent in or cut her imflammed pancreas head off and hope she doesnt get
>>>> diabetes.
>>>>
>>>> I cant prove that this happened because of her jabs but she only
>>>> managed the 2 and has been ill ever since and frankly i would never
>>>> consider another jab in her life for her.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone with any positive comments to help me find out who i report this
>>>> to please do so as at the moment i feel isolated and dont know which
>>>> way to turn.
>>>>
>>>> All i know i have one frightened little girl who has been robbed of a
>>>> normal teenage life right now and facing lots of surgery as none of the
>>>> drugs have worked and reached the end of the line and surgery is in
>>>> consultants opinion the only answer for her now.
>>>>
>>>> If it is a conincident i still think that the vaccine initiated the
>>>> diseases the consultant says her organs are attacking themselves
>>>> somehow and pancreatitis is very rare in children and ulcerative
>>>> colitis isnt that common either.
>>>>
>>>> Liz
>>>>
>>>> e m maggs http://www.jabs.org.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5039
>>>>
>>> We need to stop injecting our children with mercury, sodium chloride,
>>> aluminum and formaldehyde. For something that has no real poof to work
>>> and benefit, we need to not use our children as guinea pigs.
>>> As far as what can be done, I don't know.
>>> I know that I have read about lawsuits and families winning lawsuits
>>> over vaccines. It doesn't fix things, but it just might eventually be
>>> enough to send a message that poisoning our children is not going to be
>>> tolerated. Leaving the public unknowledged isn't right.
>>>
>>
>> Why don't you get informed and up to date rather than spouting of lies
>> and heresay?
>> You are of no help to him nor anyone else except for being a useful tool
>> of fearmongers like Chris is.
>
> Peter, was your mother so mean that you hate women like you do? Or was
> it your daddy?

So you feel you cannot criticize ignorant people if they are female?
That was a rant, an ignorant rant, but I guess it made you proud, eh?
<snicker>


From: Kat on

"Peter B." <.@.> wrote in message news:4c2e3602(a)news.x-privat.org...
> "Kat" <xkatx(a)none.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "john" <nospam(a)bt.com> wrote in message
>> news:-aednYZ_ioHzELDRnZ2dnUVZ8m6dnZ2d(a)bt.com...
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Hi Im new and just joined just to say unsure of link to my daughters
>>> illnesses which are autoimmune according to her consultant both began
>>> about 3 weeks after her 2nd jab of cervarix before that she was a
>>> healthy teenage girl of 13.
>>>
>>> She has been ill since sept 09 until now and missed all of year 9 at
>>> school due to recurring pancreatitis and ulcerative colitis. Both
>>> diseases came on after the jab.
>>>
>>> After many months of hospitalisation and bloodtests, scans, ultrasounds,
>>> mrcp scans, xrays, ng tube feeding, colonoscopies she is no better and
>>> facing her colon having to come out and have a colostomy with then
>>> another lot of surgery to hopefully reverse it and final surgery to
>>> complete that hopefully that will sort the colitis out but she will
>>> still have diarrohea and side effects of all this for life then we go to
>>> the pancreatitis saga. Another lot of surgery to put stent in or cut her
>>> imflammed pancreas head off and hope she doesnt get diabetes.
>>>
>>> I cant prove that this happened because of her jabs but she only managed
>>> the 2 and has been ill ever since and frankly i would never consider
>>> another jab in her life for her.
>>>
>>> Anyone with any positive comments to help me find out who i report this
>>> to please do so as at the moment i feel isolated and dont know which way
>>> to turn.
>>>
>>> All i know i have one frightened little girl who has been robbed of a
>>> normal teenage life right now and facing lots of surgery as none of the
>>> drugs have worked and reached the end of the line and surgery is in
>>> consultants opinion the only answer for her now.
>>>
>>> If it is a conincident i still think that the vaccine initiated the
>>> diseases the consultant says her organs are attacking themselves somehow
>>> and pancreatitis is very rare in children and ulcerative colitis isnt
>>> that common either.
>>>
>>> Liz
>>>
>>> e m maggs http://www.jabs.org.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5039
>>>
>>
>> We need to stop injecting our children with mercury, sodium chloride,
>> aluminum and formaldehyde. For something that has no real poof to work
>> and benefit, we need to not use our children as guinea pigs.
>> As far as what can be done, I don't know.
>> I know that I have read about lawsuits and families winning lawsuits over
>> vaccines. It doesn't fix things, but it just might eventually be enough
>> to send a message that poisoning our children is not going to be
>> tolerated. Leaving the public unknowledged isn't right.
>>
>
> Why don't you get informed and up to date rather than spouting of lies and
> heresay?

Who's the one who is uninformed? Lies and heresay? Clearly you're just
ignorant.
http://www.vaccineriskawareness.com/Gardasil-and-Cervarix-The-Cervical-Cancer-Vaccines

http://vran.org/about-vaccines/vaccine-ingredients/active-ingredients/ingredients-childhood-vaccines-in-canada/

http://www.rense.com/general59/vvac.htm

http://www.janethull.com/newsletter/0706/aspartame_in_the_pink_packet.php

That's just a few. Let's talk about pure ignorance. When it comes to our
children, ignorance is not bliss.

> You are of no help to him nor anyone else except for being a useful tool
> of fearmongers like Chris is.

I don't know Chris, and no one is of any real help for the topic at hand.
If there's adverse reactions or side effects, what can be offered? A hug?
A shoulder to cry on? A song and a dance or night out on the town? Is
there hope that someone will come out and say, "hey, hold up! I have the
answer! Let me just take whatever out of the child's system and all will be
well." - that's not going to happen. Information is the best resource.
As a parent of young children, never once would I ever hope or wish for harm
on someone's child. I don't care what the situation is, I would not ever
find it funny or amusing if a child is sick, hurt, suffering, in pain.
I also don't believe for one second that a parent is a "bad" parent because
they have vaccinated their children for anything - I don't care if it's this
Cervarix, MMR, DTP or a flu shot. I know that far too many people are
uninformed or given bad information. Here, anyways, we're told that
vaccines are standard procedure for children. I've even had others ask me
if vaccines are necessary to enroll a child in school. Schools and the
health system push vaccines. Schools, childrens' camps and so on always
demand a child's immunization records. There's booster clinics running
towards the end of summer here for children who will be in kindergarden come
September.
Too many parents are simply ignorant and uninformed. Clearly you are too.