From: Peter Bowditch on
Mark Probert-Drew <mark.probert(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>On May 25, 10:29�pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>> While the lies of Off-fit are believed by the *gang*.
>
>That would be Dr. Paul Offit, world renowned expert in infectious
>diseases who developed a vaccine that your post shows is safe and
>effective, without side effects.
>
>There are no lies, just serious concepts that you are too uneducated
>to understand.

Don't you just love the way she tries to defend Mr Wakefield (inventor
of a measles vaccine) by suggesting that Dr Offit is somehow bad for
inventing a vaccine? Then she goes on to show us how safe Dr Offit's
vaccine is, which we all knew anyway because of the 16 years it took
to get to market and the 70,000 children in the clinical trials.

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From: dr_jeff on
Jan Drew wrote:
> On May 25, 1:18�am, "john" <nos...(a)bt.com> wrote:
>> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=1616081694/wellwithinA/
>>
>> Editorial Reviews
>> Review
>> "I'm so glad Andy Wakefield finally has the chance to tell his story. . . .
>> For hundreds of thousands of parents around the world, myself included, Andy
>> Wakefield is a symbol of strength and conviction that all parents of
>> children with autism can use to fight for truth and the best lives possible
>> for their kids." --Jenny McCarthy, from her foreword
>>
>> "Dr. Wakefield sets the record straight. It was not he who showed callous
>> disregard towards vulnerable, sick children with autism. It was the British
>> medical establishment, the General Medical Council, the media and the
>> pharmaceutical industry that threw the children under the bus to protect the
>> vaccine program. This is a book for everyone who cares about our
>> future." ----Mary Holland, Esq., Co-founder, Elizabeth Birt Center for
>> Autism Law and Advocacy
>>
>> "Andrew Wakefield has been subjected to extraordinary criticism and
>> condemnation from professional colleagues and the wider community since he
>> first questioned the safety of the MMR vaccine. In this book he answers his
>> critics--powerfully and comprehensively---and sets the record straight. It
>> is essential reading for anyone wanting to know the truth behind the MMR
>> debate and the politics of vaccination policy." ----Dr. Richard Halvorsen,
>> author of "The Truth about Vaccines"
>>
>> "As a mother of a boy who regressed into autism immediately following his
>> MMR vaccination, I welcome this book unreservedly . . . Whatever your
>> thoughts on the issue, if you read nothing else at all on the vaccine-autism
>> debate, this has to be the most crucial book you read." ----Polly Tommey,
>> Editor-in-Chief, "The Autism File"
>>
>> "Meeting Dr. Andy Wakefield changed our lives and . . . we are forever
>> grateful. His wise and measured advice about vaccinations helped us dodge a
>> bullet . . . Our fourth son [had] multiple allergies and repeated infections
>> . . . We now fully realize [he] would have been a victim of immune overload
>> had we followed the regular vaccine schedule. . . . [He] is [now] bright and
>> healthy . . . This book provides a terrifying insight into what has been
>> happening behind the scenes as efforts redouble to silence Dr. Wakefield . .
>> . It is a wake-up call to those who think [he] is anything other than a
>> modern day hero fighting for all of our children." ----Robert Rodriguez and
>> Elizabeth Avell�n, Troublemaker Studios, Austin, Texas
>> Product Description
>> Andrew Wakefield reveals the the inside story of the vaccine-autism
>> connection, and his controversial research. As Andrew Wakefield states in
>> his prologue, "If autism does not affect your family now, it will. If
>> something does not change-and change soon-this is almost a mathematical
>> certainty. This book affects you also. It is not a parochial look at a
>> trivial medical spat in the United Kingdom, but dispatches from the
>> battlefront in a major confrontation-a struggle against compromise in
>> medicine, corruption of science, and a real and present threat to children
>> in the interests of policy and profit. It is a story of how 'the system'
>> deals with dissent among its doctors and scientists."
>>
>> In the pursuit of possible links between childhood vaccines, intestinal
>> inflammation, and neurologic injury in children, Wakefield lost his job in
>> London's Royal Free Hospital, his country of birth, his career, and his
>> medical license. A recent General Medical Council ruling stated that he was
>> "dishonest, irresponsible and showed callous disregard for the distress and
>> pain of children." Maligned by the medical establishment and mainstream
>> media, Wakefield endeavors to set the record straight in Callous Disregard.
>> While explaining what really happened, he calls out the organizations and
>> individuals that are acting not for the sake of children affected by autism,
>> but in their own self-interests.
>
> While the lies of Off-fit are believed by the *gang*.
>
> http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/37312715#37312715

Wakefield thinks that giving kids $8 at a birthday party for blood is
not unethical or wrong.

Wakefield thinks that when he was working for a law firm that was suing
the drug companies when he did his research is not a conflict of interest.

Now that I heard it from his own mouth, I have even less respect for
Wakefield.

> http://www.rxlist.com/rotateq-drug.htm
>
> Clinical Studies Experience
> 71,725 infants were evaluated in 3 placebo-controlled clinical trials
> including 36,165 infants in the group that received RotaTeq and 35,560
> infants in the group that received placebo. Parents/guardians were
> contacted on days 7, 14, and 42 after each dose regarding
> intussusception and any other serious adverse events. The racial
> distribution was as follows: White (69% in both groups); Hispanic-
> American (14% in both groups); Black (8% in both groups); Multiracial
> (5% in both groups); Asian (2% in both groups); Native American
> (RotaTeq 2%, placebo 1%); and Other ( < 1% in both groups). The gender
> distribution was 51% male and 49% female in both vaccination groups.
>
> Because clinical trials are conducted under conditions that may not be
> typical of those observed in clinical practice, the adverse reaction
> rates presented below may not be reflective of those observed in
> clinical practice.
>
> Serious Adverse Events
> Serious adverse events occurred in 2.4% of recipients of RotaTeq when
> compared to 2.6% of placebo recipients within the 42-day period of a
> dose in the phase 3 clinical studies of RotaTeq. The most frequently
> reported serious adverse events for RotaTeq compared to placebo were:

Wow! The vaccine protects against serious adverse events.

> bronchiolitis (0.6% RotaTeq vs. 0.7% Placebo),
> gastroenteritis (0.2% RotaTeq vs. 0.3% Placebo),
> pneumonia (0.2% RotaTeq vs. 0.2% Placebo),
> fever (0.1% RotaTeq vs. 0.1% Placebo), and
> urinary tract infection (0.1% RotaTeq vs. 0.1% Placebo).
>
> Deaths
> Across the clinical studies, 52 deaths were reported. There were 25
> deaths in the RotaTeq recipients compared to 27 deaths in the placebo
> recipients. The most commonly reported cause of death was sudden
> infant death syndrome, which was observed in 8 recipients of RotaTeq
> and 9 placebo recipients.

The vaccine prevents deaths and intussecption.

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Jeff
From: Peter Parry on
On Wed, 26 May 2010 05:46:43 -0400, dr_jeff <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote:

>
>Now that I heard it from his own mouth, I have even less respect for
>Wakefield.

Dr Michael Fitzpatrick has written a good summary of the case, and
the responsibility that irresponsible and ignorant journalists have in
it, at http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/site/article/8030/

From: john on

"Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname(a)ratbags.com> wrote in message
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>
> Don't you just love the way she tries to defend Mr Wakefield (inventor
> of a measles vaccine) by suggesting that Dr Offit is somehow bad for
> inventing a vaccine? Then she goes on to show us how safe Dr Offit's
> vaccine is, which we all knew anyway because of the 16 years it took
> to get to market and the 70,000 children in the clinical trials.
>

Yeah, really safe http://whale.to/vaccines/rotateq_h.html

Just three years after the introduction of Offit's Rotateq there are 2,919
associated events on VAERS, 696 associated hospitalisations and 78 deaths.
This is a high proportion of hospitalisations to events, and deaths to
hospitalisations.