From: Ignoramus15568 on
My son, who is 8, is getting an allowanca and has accumulated some
money.

Now he wants to buy something that is, in my opinion, a complete
ripoff, which is a pack of "Club Penguin Trading cards". He wants me
to buy them online and he would repay me in cash. The deal is $49 for
a pack of 50 cards. (!!!!!!!!!!!)

My first instinct was to just refuse to do so, but now I am having my
doubts. The cards are not really harmful (as would be if he asked me
to buy cocaine for his money, for example), they are just a dumb way
to spend money. But maybe this is his prerogative to do with his money
as he sees fit, as long as no harm is done.

On the other hand, if, say, he would want to participate in some kind
of fraud, like a pyramid scheme, I would be right to refuse. These
cards are just one step away from fraud, so maybe the refusal has
merit.

Thoughts?

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From: gmbeasley on
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 12:38:59 -0600, Ignoramus15568
<ignoramus15568(a)NOSPAM.15568.invalid> wrote:

>My son, who is 8, is getting an allowanca and has accumulated some
>money.
>
>Now he wants to buy something that is, in my opinion, a complete
>ripoff, which is a pack of "Club Penguin Trading cards". He wants me
>to buy them online and he would repay me in cash. The deal is $49 for
>a pack of 50 cards. (!!!!!!!!!!!)
>
>My first instinct was to just refuse to do so, but now I am having my
>doubts. The cards are not really harmful (as would be if he asked me
>to buy cocaine for his money, for example), they are just a dumb way
>to spend money. But maybe this is his prerogative to do with his money
>as he sees fit, as long as no harm is done.
>
>On the other hand, if, say, he would want to participate in some kind
>of fraud, like a pyramid scheme, I would be right to refuse. These
>cards are just one step away from fraud, so maybe the refusal has
>merit.
>
>Thoughts?
>
Not fraud - just overpriced. And even if it was something like those
book club things that you can't get off the list once you buy the
initial 5 books - this is a good time to learn that lesson while you
are there to back him up. I didn't find out about those things until
I was newly married without much money.

I would have him buy them though. Not do it in your name.
From: Betsy on
Ignoramus15568 wrote:
> My son, who is 8, is getting an allowanca and has accumulated some
> money.
>
> Now he wants to buy something that is, in my opinion, a complete
> ripoff, which is a pack of "Club Penguin Trading cards". He wants me
> to buy them online and he would repay me in cash. The deal is $49 for
> a pack of 50 cards. (!!!!!!!!!!!)

Is he wanting them for the online game codes? Do you have a reasonable
limit for his online time?

> My first instinct was to just refuse to do so, but now I am having my
> doubts. The cards are not really harmful (as would be if he asked me
> to buy cocaine for his money, for example), they are just a dumb way
> to spend money. But maybe this is his prerogative to do with his money
> as he sees fit, as long as no harm is done.

If these are what he has spent a long time saving up for, it seems
reasonable to allow him to get them. If it is a brand new idea, maybe
giving it a little time to simmer, and looking at other things he has
been saving up for would make sense.

> On the other hand, if, say, he would want to participate in some kind
> of fraud, like a pyramid scheme, I would be right to refuse. These
> cards are just one step away from fraud, so maybe the refusal has
> merit.

It isn't how I would spend my own money, but lots of people seem to be
happy with them. If it will lead to more gaming than you allow, then
you may have a good reason to limit them.

As a parent, you have the right and responsibility to limit how your
children spend their money. I don't think I will have my 8 yo asking
for these because his allowance is not that large and his experience is
limited enough that he hasn't encountered them.

--Betsy
From: Lenona on
Seems to me that kids who get small allowances - or none - and are
forced to work extra chores to earn the extra money they want, are
more likely to think twice before spending. That's how Amy Daczyzyn,
author of "The Complete Tightwad Gazette," raised her six kids; they
didn't get ANY allowances, and they learned early not to make
purchases they might regret, since they had to do unpaid chores and
then work extra chores if they wanted money.

Whereas a neighbor of hers held a yard sale, and the neighbor's kid
was there too, selling all his outgrown, expensive G.I. Joe
items.....for pennies. There were a LOT of items, IIRC. Clearly, it
wasn't exactly a positive experience for the observing parent.

Lenona.
From: Welches on

"Ignoramus15568" <ignoramus15568(a)NOSPAM.15568.invalid> wrote in message
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> My son, who is 8, is getting an allowanca and has accumulated some
> money.
>
> Now he wants to buy something that is, in my opinion, a complete
> ripoff, which is a pack of "Club Penguin Trading cards". He wants me
> to buy them online and he would repay me in cash. The deal is $49 for
> a pack of 50 cards. (!!!!!!!!!!!)
>
> My first instinct was to just refuse to do so, but now I am having my
> doubts. The cards are not really harmful (as would be if he asked me
> to buy cocaine for his money, for example), they are just a dumb way
> to spend money. But maybe this is his prerogative to do with his money
> as he sees fit, as long as no harm is done.
>
> On the other hand, if, say, he would want to participate in some kind
> of fraud, like a pyramid scheme, I would be right to refuse. These
> cards are just one step away from fraud, so maybe the refusal has
> merit.
>
> Thoughts?
Basically it's his own money so I'd say within any limits you've already set
he can spend it. But my initial thought (translating into �) is how much
pocket money does he have? My 9yo would have to be saving up for over 6
months to get that amount.
Me and my husband were discussing last night how our children spend their
money. #1 (age 9) spends very little on herself. She buys things for
friends, presents for family and puts the rest in whichever charity box
she's got at the time. #2 (age 6) tends to spend her money on odd junky
things that give her immediate pleasure but have no lasting value.
Debbie