From: Bob Officer on
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:19:29 -0800 (PST), in misc.health.alternative,
Kevysmom <kevysmom09(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>
>> > Why do we have an epidemic of disabled children, and children with
>> > chronic health issues as, diabetes, asthma, cancer, etc..
>>
>> A variety of reasons. Vaccines are not one of them.
>
>
>
>Vaccines do cause disabilities in children, Thats why we have the
>vaccine injury court.
>

Every day more and more science is coming out and it doesn't point to
vaccines at all. No Vaccine award has been given for autism.


>> > The CDC (Center for disease control and prevention) seems to be
>> > failing American children.
>>
>> Really? Please tell me how the CDC could have prevented these.
>
>
>
>Research, Its what they get PAID tax payers dollars to do, PREVENT
>diseases.

They do, Smallpox, MMR, DPT and Season Flu, a host of other vaccines,
right up to HPV and now H1N1.

It takes time to develop and test, and retest and people willing to
vaccinate their children.


--
Bob Officer
Posting the truth
http://www.skeptics.com.au
From: dr_jeff on
tools wrote:
> dr_jeff wrote:
>> Kevysmom wrote:
>>> Why do we have an epidemic of disabled children, and children with
>>> chronic health issues as, diabetes, asthma, cancer, etc..
>>
>> A variety of reasons. Vaccines are not one of them.
>>
>>> The CDC (Center for disease control and prevention) seems to be
>>> failing American children.
>>
>> Really? Please tell me how the CDC could have prevented these.
> Well for starters they could spend the time and money researching care
> and cure instead of supporting vac money machines for the pharm co. They
> could make sure that people like you are never allowed to spout lies
> about medicine.

Well, prevention is better than cure. And vaccines prevent disease.

The CDC is not responsible for the first amendment, otherwise
alternative medicine would be able to make their false statements.
From: tools on
dr_jeff wrote:
> tools wrote:
>> dr_jeff wrote:
>>> Kevysmom wrote:
>>>> Why do we have an epidemic of disabled children, and children with
>>>> chronic health issues as, diabetes, asthma, cancer, etc..
>>>
>>> A variety of reasons. Vaccines are not one of them.
>>>
>>>> The CDC (Center for disease control and prevention) seems to be
>>>> failing American children.
>>>
>>> Really? Please tell me how the CDC could have prevented these.
>> Well for starters they could spend the time and money researching
>> care and cure instead of supporting vac money machines for the pharm
>> co. They could make sure that people like you are never allowed to
>> spout lies about medicine.
>
> Well, prevention is better than cure. Not if one gains lifetime immunity from getting it. And then if mainstream medicine was worth anything, they would have great care while they get well. Now THATS a novel idea. And vaccines prevent disease.
>
> The CDC is not responsible for the first amendment, otherwise
> alternative medicine would be able to make their false statements.
So the false statements, false cures, false medicines, false necessary
surgery, false vaccines, false concern for the patient, and more that
mainstream has foisted upon the people counts for nothing?
From: dr_jeff on
tools wrote:
> dr_jeff wrote:
>> tools wrote:
>>> dr_jeff wrote:
>>>> Kevysmom wrote:
>>>>> Why do we have an epidemic of disabled children, and children with
>>>>> chronic health issues as, diabetes, asthma, cancer, etc..
>>>>
>>>> A variety of reasons. Vaccines are not one of them.
>>>>
>>>>> The CDC (Center for disease control and prevention) seems to be
>>>>> failing American children.
>>>>
>>>> Really? Please tell me how the CDC could have prevented these.
>>> Well for starters they could spend the time and money researching
>>> care and cure instead of supporting vac money machines for the pharm
>>> co. They could make sure that people like you are never allowed to
>>> spout lies about medicine.
>>
>> Well, prevention is better than cure. Not if one gains lifetime
>> immunity from getting it. And then if mainstream medicine was worth
>> anything, they would have great care while they get well. Now THATS a
>> novel idea. And vaccines prevent disease.
>>
>> The CDC is not responsible for the first amendment, otherwise
>> alternative medicine would be able to make their false statements.
> So the false statements, false cures, false medicines, false necessary
> surgery, false vaccines, false concern for the patient, and more that
> mainstream has foisted upon the people counts for nothing?

None of them are false. The fact is that science-based medicine works
and conjecture-based medicine doesn't.
From: Jan Drew on
On Nov 11, 8:25�am, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
> john wrote:
> > "dr_jeff" <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote in message news:Pb-
> >> Incorrect. There is no good evidence that suggests that autism is caused
> >> by vaccines. And plenty of good evidence that suggests that autism does
> >> not cause autism. There is no one who understands the science and data who
> >> thinks autism is caused by vaccines.
>
> >> Jeff
>
> > Bollocks, and do stop lying
> >http://www.whale.to/vaccine/vaccine_autism_proven.html
>
> Yes, the site you cite is bullocks. Utter garbage.

Thanks for the personal attack, hypocrite.

why God named you P.Utz, go figure
>
> Thanks for the personal attack.

Liar. Your name is indeed Jeffrey peter Joseph Utz. And you are NOT
an M.D.
>
> That you have to make personal attacks to make your point shows how weak
> your argument is,

There was no personal attack. Stop lying.

Real one on HealthFraud list: Jeffrey Peter Joseph Utz, M.D.
jeff...(a)juno.com
[2007] "Robert Watson" kidsdoc2...(a)hotmail.com
Jeff Utz jtest-u...(a)juno.com
Jeff Utz, M.D. jeff...(a)juno.com
Jeffrey P. Utz, M.D. jeff...(a)softhome.net Hence "Putz"
http://www.msu.edu/~utz/ u...(a)pilot.msu.edu
Jeffrey Peter, M.D. kidsdoc2...(a)hotmail.com
Wyle E. Coyote wyle_e_coyot...(a)hotmail.com
Jeff Utz kidsdoc2...(a)hotmail.com (Jan 2003)
Jeff jef...(a)pacbell.net
Jeff j...(a)hotmail.com (2007)
dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu
Jeff Utz <jeff.utz(a)gmail.com
>
> Jeff