From: tools on
Mark Probert wrote:
> On Nov 13, 8:26 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 13, 9:57 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 13, 1:03 am, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn...(a)ratbags.com> wrote:
>>>> Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Nov 12, 10:18?pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Nov 12, 7:29 am, tools <tool...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Mark Probert wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Nov 11, 8:55 pm, Kevysmom <kevysmo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Why do we have an epidemic of disabled children, and children with
>>>>>>>>> chronic health issues as, diabetes, asthma, cancer, etc..
>>>>>>>> More children are surviving longer to develop these conditions.
>>>>>>>>> The CDC (Center for disease control and prevention) seems to be
>>>>>>>>> failing American children.
>>>>>>>> They deal with infectious diseases.
>>>>>>> Do you ever get tired of giving head to your owners?
>>>>>> That is totally uncalled for, Mark S Probert.
>>>>>> Take this post to your Rabbi this week.
>>>>>> Shame on you. ?It only proves you do not read Trah everyday, and you
>>>>>> are a liar.
>>>>> Sorry, Mark. I read that wrong. Shame on you tools.
>>>> That's better.
>>> No, it is not.
>> <snip>
>>
>> I am sorry you are not capable to accept an apology.
>
> You have done nothing except abuse me, harass me and my family, and
> stalk us. Why should I accept any apology from you for something so
> prototypical of your behavior if you forgot to also promise to reform
> your behavior?
>
> Saying you apologize is meaningless unless you reform your behavior.
>
>> http://ohr.edu/yhiy/article.php/1393
>>
>> The Torah teaches us that, as important as it is to say "Sorry", its
>> equally important to know how to say "I forgive you" in a way that
>> genuinely comforts the offender.-
>
> The Torah also teaches that merely saying you are sorry is utterly
> meaningless if you continue the behavior that led to it.
>
> And, this post of yours shows that you are mouthing the words, and
> there is no true remorse for you actions.
>
> When I see true remorse, demonstrated by cessation of your abuse,
> harassment, stalking and mentioning of my family, I will reconsider.
>
> Until then, your words are meaningless to me.
>
>
Mark, you could just go away. That would be the responsable thing to
do for you family.>
From: Mark Probert on
On Nov 14, 8:49 am, tools <tool...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Mark Probert wrote:
> > On Nov 13, 8:26 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >> On Nov 13, 9:57 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> On Nov 13, 1:03 am, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn...(a)ratbags.com> wrote:
> >>>> Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Nov 12, 10:18?pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Nov 12, 7:29 am, tools <tool...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Mark Probert wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Nov 11, 8:55 pm, Kevysmom <kevysmo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Why do we have an epidemic of disabled children, and children with
> >>>>>>>>> chronic health issues as, diabetes, asthma, cancer, etc..
> >>>>>>>> More children are surviving longer to develop these conditions.
> >>>>>>>>> The CDC (Center for disease control and prevention) seems to be
> >>>>>>>>> failing American children.
> >>>>>>>> They deal with infectious diseases.
> >>>>>>> Do you ever get tired of giving head to your owners?
> >>>>>> That is totally uncalled for, Mark S Probert.
> >>>>>> Take this post to your Rabbi this week.
> >>>>>> Shame on you. ?It only proves you do not read Trah everyday, and you
> >>>>>> are a liar.
> >>>>> Sorry, Mark. I read that wrong. Shame on you tools.
> >>>> That's better.
> >>> No, it is not.
> >> <snip>
>
> >> I am sorry you are not capable to accept an apology.
>
> > You have done nothing except abuse me, harass me and my family, and
> > stalk us. Why should I accept any apology from you for something so
> > prototypical of your behavior if you forgot to also promise to reform
> > your behavior?
>
> > Saying you apologize is meaningless unless you reform your behavior.
>
> >>http://ohr.edu/yhiy/article.php/1393
>
> >> The Torah teaches us that, as important as it is to say "Sorry", its
> >> equally important to know how to say "I forgive you" in a way that
> >> genuinely comforts the offender.-
>
> > The Torah also teaches that merely saying you are sorry is utterly
> > meaningless if you continue the behavior that led to it.
>
> > And, this post of yours shows that you are mouthing the words, and
> > there is no true remorse for you actions.
>
> > When I see true remorse, demonstrated by cessation of your abuse,
> > harassment, stalking and mentioning of my family, I will reconsider.
>
> > Until then, your words are meaningless to me.
>
>   Mark, you could just go away. That would be the responsable thing to
> do for you family

You could get a cephalotomy and actually become smarter.

From: tools on
Mark Probert wrote:
> On Nov 14, 8:49 am, tools <tool...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> Mark Probert wrote:
>>> On Nov 13, 8:26 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>>> On Nov 13, 9:57 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Nov 13, 1:03 am, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn...(a)ratbags.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Nov 12, 10:18?pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Nov 12, 7:29 am, tools <tool...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Mark Probert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 11, 8:55 pm, Kevysmom <kevysmo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Why do we have an epidemic of disabled children, and children with
>>>>>>>>>>> chronic health issues as, diabetes, asthma, cancer, etc..
>>>>>>>>>> More children are surviving longer to develop these conditions.
>>>>>>>>>>> The CDC (Center for disease control and prevention) seems to be
>>>>>>>>>>> failing American children.
>>>>>>>>>> They deal with infectious diseases.
>>>>>>>>> Do you ever get tired of giving head to your owners?
>>>>>>>> That is totally uncalled for, Mark S Probert.
>>>>>>>> Take this post to your Rabbi this week.
>>>>>>>> Shame on you. ?It only proves you do not read Trah everyday, and you
>>>>>>>> are a liar.
>>>>>>> Sorry, Mark. I read that wrong. Shame on you tools.
>>>>>> That's better.
>>>>> No, it is not.
>>>> <snip>
>>>> I am sorry you are not capable to accept an apology.
>>> You have done nothing except abuse me, harass me and my family, and
>>> stalk us. Why should I accept any apology from you for something so
>>> prototypical of your behavior if you forgot to also promise to reform
>>> your behavior?
>>> Saying you apologize is meaningless unless you reform your behavior.
>>>> http://ohr.edu/yhiy/article.php/1393
>>>> The Torah teaches us that, as important as it is to say "Sorry", its
>>>> equally important to know how to say "I forgive you" in a way that
>>>> genuinely comforts the offender.-
>>> The Torah also teaches that merely saying you are sorry is utterly
>>> meaningless if you continue the behavior that led to it.
>>> And, this post of yours shows that you are mouthing the words, and
>>> there is no true remorse for you actions.
>>> When I see true remorse, demonstrated by cessation of your abuse,
>>> harassment, stalking and mentioning of my family, I will reconsider.
>>> Until then, your words are meaningless to me.
>> Mark, you could just go away. That would be the responsable thing to
>> do for you family
>
> You could get a cephalotomy and actually become smarter.
Mark if you chose to stay here, do not whine about how mistreated you
are here. In law in many places, you are required to retreat if you can.
From: Bob Officer on
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:10:20 -0800 (PST), in misc.health.alternative,
Jan Drew <jdrew63929(a)aol.com> wrote:

>On Nov 13, 9:56?am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 12, 10:37?pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Nov 12, 10:18 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > On Nov 12, 7:29 am, tools <tool...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > > Mark Probert wrote:
>> > > > > On Nov 11, 8:55 pm, Kevysmom <kevysmo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > >> Why do we have an epidemic of disabled children, and children with
>> > > > >> chronic health issues as, diabetes, asthma, cancer, etc..
>>
>> > > > > More children are surviving longer to develop these conditions.
>>
>> > > > >> The CDC (Center for disease control and prevention) seems to be
>> > > > >> failing American children.
>>
>> > > > > They deal with infectious diseases.
>>
>> > > > Do you ever get tired of giving head to your owners?
>>
>> > > That is totally uncalled for, Mark S Probert.
>>
>> > > Take this post to your Rabbi this week.
>>
>> > > Shame on you. It only proves you do not read Trah everyday, and you
>> > > are a liar.
>>
>> > Sorry, Mark. ?I read that wrong. ?Shame on you tools.-
>>
>> Shame on you Jan. You immediately jumped to a wrong conclusion because
>> you saw my name and hate my religion.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>Unlike you, I apologized. You did not accept it. Rather --you start
>calling names again.
>
>Furthermore, you lie. I do not hate your religion. I do hate lying.

Then you must hate yourself?

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From: Peter Bowditch on
Mark Probert <mark.probert(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>On Nov 14, 4:11�am, "john" <nos...(a)bt.com> wrote:
>> "Peter Bowditch" <myfirstn...(a)ratbags.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:23prf55bnpsmdb32t53qdg0h8kko0fumsk(a)4ax.com...
>>
>> > "john" <nos...(a)bt.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>"Peter Bowditch" <myfirstn...(a)ratbags.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>> Have you read Torah today, Jan? I have.
>>
>> >>are you Jewish then?
>>
>> > Why would it matter?
>>
>> > Hint: The Torah plays a part in several religions.
>>
>> don't keep us in suspense
>>
>> why do you read the torah?
>>
>> are you shocked at the contenthttp://www.whale.to/b/hoffman11.html
>
>Not surprised at its subtle bigotry.

I wouldn't call the bigotry "subtle". In any case, it appears yet
again that John, while invoking Scopie's Law and citing whale.to,
hasn't actually bothered to read what he posts. I say I read the Torah
and he posts something about the Talmud.

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