From: Jan Drew on
On Nov 13, 9:56�am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 12, 10:37�pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
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> > On Nov 12, 10:18 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
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> > > On Nov 12, 7:29 am, tools <tool...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > Mark Probert wrote:
> > > > > On Nov 11, 8:55 pm, Kevysmom <kevysmo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> Why do we have an epidemic of disabled children, and children with
> > > > >> chronic health issues as, diabetes, asthma, cancer, etc..
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> > > > > More children are surviving longer to develop these conditions.
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> > > > >> The CDC (Center for disease control and prevention) seems to be
> > > > >> failing American children.
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> > > > > They deal with infectious diseases.
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> > > > Do you ever get tired of giving head to your owners?
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> > > That is totally uncalled for, Mark S Probert.
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> > > Take this post to your Rabbi this week.
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> > > Shame on you. It only proves you do not read Trah everyday, and you
> > > are a liar.
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> > Sorry, Mark. �I read that wrong. �Shame on you tools.-
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> Shame on you Jan. You immediately jumped to a wrong conclusion because
> you saw my name and hate my religion.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

Unlike you, I apologized. You did not accept it. Rather --you start
calling names again.

Furthermore, you lie. I do not hate your religion. I do hate lying.
From: Jan Drew on
On Nov 13, 9:57�am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 13, 1:03�am, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn...(a)ratbags.com> wrote:
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> > Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > >On Nov 12, 10:18?pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > >> On Nov 12, 7:29 am, tools <tool...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > >> > Mark Probert wrote:
> > >> > > On Nov 11, 8:55 pm, Kevysmom <kevysmo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > >> Why do we have an epidemic of disabled children, and children with
> > >> > >> chronic health issues as, diabetes, asthma, cancer, etc..
>
> > >> > > More children are surviving longer to develop these conditions.
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> > >> > >> The CDC (Center for disease control and prevention) seems to be
> > >> > >> failing American children.
>
> > >> > > They deal with infectious diseases.
>
> > >> > Do you ever get tired of giving head to your owners?
>
> > >> That is totally uncalled for, Mark S Probert.
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> > >> Take this post to your Rabbi this week.
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> > >> Shame on you. ?It only proves you do not read Trah everyday, and you
> > >> are a liar.
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> > >Sorry, Mark. �I read that wrong. �Shame on you tools.
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> > That's better.
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> No, it is not.

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I am sorry you are not capable to accept an apology.

http://ohr.edu/yhiy/article.php/1393

The Torah teaches us that, as important as it is to say "Sorry", its
equally important to know how to say "I forgive you" in a way that
genuinely comforts the offender.
From: Jan Drew on

"john" <nos...(a)bt.com> wrote:

> "Peter Bowditch" <myfirstn...(a)ratbags.com> wrote in message

> Have you read Torah today, Jan? I have.

> are you Jewish then?

Wonder if the itch will reply. Without asking a question.


From: Mark Probert on
On Nov 13, 8:10 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> On Nov 13, 9:56 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Nov 12, 10:37 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
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> > > On Nov 12, 10:18 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Nov 12, 7:29 am, tools <tool...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > Mark Probert wrote:
> > > > > > On Nov 11, 8:55 pm, Kevysmom <kevysmo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> Why do we have an epidemic of disabled children, and children with
> > > > > >> chronic health issues as, diabetes, asthma, cancer, etc..
>
> > > > > > More children are surviving longer to develop these conditions.
>
> > > > > >> The CDC (Center for disease control and prevention) seems to be
> > > > > >> failing American children.
>
> > > > > > They deal with infectious diseases.
>
> > > > > Do you ever get tired of giving head to your owners?
>
> > > > That is totally uncalled for, Mark S Probert.
>
> > > > Take this post to your Rabbi this week.
>
> > > > Shame on you. It only proves you do not read Trah everyday, and you
> > > > are a liar.
>
> > > Sorry, Mark. I read that wrong. Shame on you tools.-
>
> > Shame on you Jan. You immediately jumped to a wrong conclusion because
> > you saw my name and hate my religion.- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
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> Unlike you, I apologized.  

When I see I have done something requiring apology, I do it. You have
yet to rise to that level. You have AU's to go.

You did not accept it.  Rather --you start
> calling names again.

I call them as I see them. You jumped to a conclusion because you saw
my name. Why not admit it?

> Furthermore, you lie.  I do not hate your religion.  

I did not lie. I expressed my opinion based on my interaction with
you. Every comment of yours regarding Judaism tells me that you hate
Jews.

> I do hate lying.-

Self hatred.


From: Mark Probert on
On Nov 13, 8:26 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> On Nov 13, 9:57 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Nov 13, 1:03 am, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn...(a)ratbags.com> wrote:
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> > > Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > > >On Nov 12, 10:18?pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > > >> On Nov 12, 7:29 am, tools <tool...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > >> > Mark Probert wrote:
> > > >> > > On Nov 11, 8:55 pm, Kevysmom <kevysmo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> > >> Why do we have an epidemic of disabled children, and children with
> > > >> > >> chronic health issues as, diabetes, asthma, cancer, etc..
>
> > > >> > > More children are surviving longer to develop these conditions..
>
> > > >> > >> The CDC (Center for disease control and prevention) seems to be
> > > >> > >> failing American children.
>
> > > >> > > They deal with infectious diseases.
>
> > > >> > Do you ever get tired of giving head to your owners?
>
> > > >> That is totally uncalled for, Mark S Probert.
>
> > > >> Take this post to your Rabbi this week.
>
> > > >> Shame on you. ?It only proves you do not read Trah everyday, and you
> > > >> are a liar.
>
> > > >Sorry, Mark. I read that wrong. Shame on you tools.
>
> > > That's better.
>
> > No, it is not.
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> <snip>
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> I am sorry you are not capable to accept an apology.

You have done nothing except abuse me, harass me and my family, and
stalk us. Why should I accept any apology from you for something so
prototypical of your behavior if you forgot to also promise to reform
your behavior?

Saying you apologize is meaningless unless you reform your behavior.

>
> http://ohr.edu/yhiy/article.php/1393
>
> The Torah teaches us that, as important as it is to say "Sorry", its
> equally important to know how to say "I forgive you" in a way that
> genuinely comforts the offender.-

The Torah also teaches that merely saying you are sorry is utterly
meaningless if you continue the behavior that led to it.

And, this post of yours shows that you are mouthing the words, and
there is no true remorse for you actions.

When I see true remorse, demonstrated by cessation of your abuse,
harassment, stalking and mentioning of my family, I will reconsider.

Until then, your words are meaningless to me.