From: trigonometry1972 on
On Oct 26, 10:15 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 26, 1:05 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Oct 25, 1:01 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu>
>
> > Why are you still posting with the dr?
>
> > You have failed to post your current medical license.
> > Conclusion--you don't have one.
> > That's lying Jeffrey, Peter, Joseph Utz.
> > Who posts on Barrett's quack list as jeff....(a)gmail.com
>
> >  wrote:
> > > pautrey wrote:
> > > >> I am afraid were are going to have to disagree on this. I side with the
> > > >> experts in the field, like those who work in child health and undestand
> > > >> statistics.
>
> > > > Killer,
>
> > > > Too bad you're not swift enough to know
> > > > who the knowledgeable experts are.
>
> > > Actually, I am. The CDC has many experts in statistics who understand
> > > epidemiology. So do many public health departments, medical schools and
> > > hospitals.
>
> > > Jeff
>
> > That's not swift.  The CDC is organized medicine.  Fraud, liars, and
> > vested interest.
>
> Please make sure you do not follow one word of advice from the CDC,
> FDA, etc.
>
> PLEASE.

Given she is a women, she likely out live
all of us males here and get the last word at that.
Provided she gets out in the midday sun now
and then and off the of the computer for a walk.
From: trigonometry1972 on
On Oct 24, 9:09 pm, "trigonometry1...(a)gmail.com |"
<trigonometry1...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 24, 11:21 am, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
>
> > Unless the gene pool is rapidly changing, it can't be genetic.
>
> > Of course, that environment includes a changing and more inclusive
> > definiton of autism. So, much of the increase is better diagnosis.]]
>
> > Jeff
>
> Some of us suspect another factor in the rise of type 1 diabetes.
> Perhaps it related childhood asthma, other autoimmune
> diseases and just maybe autism. And the effect would
> go further back in human history than vaccination.
> So perhaps both of you are wrong or both are only
> partly correct.
>
> Animal models PMID: 17276604
>                       PMID: 15763180
>                       PMID: 15225838
>
> A theory        PMID: 17920208
>                     PMID: 18377099
>
> Interesting a major share of the fault comes from bad public
> health suggestions and guidelines. Possibly aggravated
> by a host of modern synthetic endocrine disruptors.
> The wide spread vitamin D deficiency is result from
> modern indoor living and the resistance
> of dieticians, nurses, and conventional medical doctors
> to the use of meaningful vitamin D3 supplementation
> doses and 400 IU isn't of much value other than
> preventing gross rickets in children.
> Anyway there are other benefit with increasing
> serum levels to summer time values such as found in people who
> live out of doors in clean clear air.
>
> Are you checking your patients 25 OH vitamin D serum
> levels? And hopefully you have a reasonable target value
> for your patient aren't blindly following the reference range.
> And hopefully you test them during the seasonal nadir
> March and not just in late August or September when
> values are highest.
>
> You no doubt will be dismissive
> so I tried to get there first....................Trig

Ah the ultimate complement, a posting that
is avoided by others. I'll reuse this one.
From: trigonometry1972 on
On Oct 26, 8:04 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 26, 1:38 am, "trigonometry1...(a)gmail.com |"
>
>
>
> <trigonometry1...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Oct 25, 10:01 am, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
>
> > > pautrey wrote:
> > > >> I am afraid were are going to have to disagree on this. I side with the
> > > >> experts in the field, like those who work in child health and undestand
> > > >> statistics.
>
> > > > Killer,
>
> > > > Too bad you're not swift enough to know
> > > > who the knowledgeable experts are.
>
> > > Actually, I am. The CDC has many experts in statistics who understand
> > > epidemiology. So do many public health departments, medical schools and
> > > hospitals.
>
> > > Jeff
>
> > > > On Oct 24, 1:38 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
> > > >> john wrote:
> > > >>> "dr_jeff" <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote in message
> > > >>>news:gJedncuiOqs02H7XnZ2dnUVZ_hhi4p2d(a)giganews.com...
> > > >>>> Unless the gene pool is rapidly changing, it can't be genetic.
> > > >>>> Of course, that environment includes a changing and more inclusive
> > > >>>> definiton of autism. So, much of the increase is better diagnosis.]]
> > > >>>> Jeff
> > > >>> more bollockshttp://www.whale.to/a/autism_diagnosis.html
> > > >> I am afraid were are going to have to disagree on this. I side with the
> > > >> experts in the field, like those who work in child health and undestand
> > > >> statistics.
>
> > > >> jeff
>
> > A general practice medical physician is an expert on statistics? I am
> > sure he knows how to delegate
> > giving the shot to an assistant or in a pinch give
> > it to the patient himself.
>
> Who would be that general practice physician you refer to? I do not
> see any posting their opinion in this thread, unless to agree with
> experts who are statistical experts, and have them at their disposal.

Dr. Jeff? He may well have his Doctorate
in music. Dr does suggest some sort of
a Doctor and given the context perhaps a
retired medical Doc, you know the ragtag
type.
What are needed are numbers and the how
the numbers were crunched.

There are experts and there are ex-spurts......Trig
From: Jan Drew on
On Oct 26, 1:15�pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 26, 1:05�pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 25, 1:01 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu>
>
> > Why are you still posting with the dr?
>
> > You have failed to post your current medical license.
> > Conclusion--you don't have one.
> > That's lying Jeffrey, Peter, Joseph Utz.
> > Who posts on Barrett's quack list as jeff....(a)gmail.com
>
> > �wrote:
> > > pautrey wrote:
> > > >> I am afraid were are going to have to disagree on this. I side with the
> > > >> experts in the field, like those who work in child health and undestand
> > > >> statistics.
>
> > > > Killer,
>
> > > > Too bad you're not swift enough to know
> > > > who the knowledgeable experts are.
>
> > > Actually, I am. The CDC has many experts in statistics who understand
> > > epidemiology. So do many public health departments, medical schools and
> > > hospitals.
>
> > > Jeff
>
> > That's not swift. �The CDC is organized medicine. �Fraud, liars, and
> > vested interest.
>
> Please make sure you do not follow one word of advice from the CDC,
> FDA, etc.
>
> PLEASE.

Injecting Mercury in Your Baby-Gives it Brain Damage and Autism


Any and all regular flu seasonal flu shot contain mercury and
aluminum.
N1H1 Swine Virus Vaccine- Made by the Baxter Drug Company applied for
the patents one year before the Swine Flu outbreak of 2009. Baxter
applied for the patents in 2008. Baxter was also chosen under the
orders of the Whole Health Organization that pre-maturely declared
this swine Flu a pandemic before it was spread earlier this year in
March in Mexico on a pig farm. The pig farm is still in business
happily making more pork products for Americans. The pig farm was
never closed down for inspection and never investigated again.

You have to ask yourself why a World Health Organization has the right
to order a drug maker to make a vaccine, and allow it to be sold
untested? You have to ask yourself why this organization is involved
with drug making at all. Never in the past would the WHO presume to be
the authority on drugs and what works but they relied on faulty
information from the Baxter Drug Company.

Incidentally the Baxter Drug Company applied for the Patent on all
N1H1 Vaccines in 2008 this is recorded in the U.S. Patent Office and
is a matter of public record.

Any vaccine created in the last 10 years or more contains mercury or
thermisol which causes brain damage and autism. If you care about your
child you do not want mercury anywhere near your children especially
in the bloodstream.



From: Jan Drew on
On Oct 26, 11:40�pm, "trigonometry1...(a)gmail.com |"
<trigonometry1...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 26, 10:15�am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 26, 1:05�pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Oct 25, 1:01 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu>
>
> > > Why are you still posting with the dr?
>
> > > You have failed to post your current medical license.
> > > Conclusion--you don't have one.
> > > That's lying Jeffrey, Peter, Joseph Utz.
> > > Who posts on Barrett's quack list as jeff....(a)gmail.com
>
> > > �wrote:
> > > > pautrey wrote:
> > > > >> I am afraid were are going to have to disagree on this. I side with the
> > > > >> experts in the field, like those who work in child health and undestand
> > > > >> statistics.
>
> > > > > Killer,
>
> > > > > Too bad you're not swift enough to know
> > > > > who the knowledgeable experts are.
>
> > > > Actually, I am. The CDC has many experts in statistics who understand
> > > > epidemiology. So do many public health departments, medical schools and
> > > > hospitals.
>
> > > > Jeff
>
> > > That's not swift. �The CDC is organized medicine. �Fraud, liars, and
> > > vested interest.
>
> > Please make sure you do not follow one word of advice from the CDC,
> > FDA, etc.
>
> > PLEASE.
>
> Given she is a women, she likely out live
> all of us males here and get the last word at that.
> Provided she gets out in the midday sun now
> and then and off the of the computer for a walk

I get plenty of sun. I don't walk after dark unless I have my hubby
with me.