From: Kevysmom on

> >> Please engage your brain. He didn't write that 55,000 kids a year die in
> >> the US from dehydration. Rather, 55,000 kids are admitted to the
> >> hospital. Around 50 kids are killed each year from rotavirus.
>
> > No, Thats NOT what he wrote, this is a direct quote on what he wrote.
>
> > You mean the man who developed the RotaTEQ vaccine that has saved
> > tens
> >>>>> of thousands of children's lives and has prevented even more
> >>>>> hospitalizations?
>
> >> According to the World Health Organization, about 1.5 million kids die
> >> each year from diarrhea.http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs330/en/index.html
>
> >> How sad.
>
> >> Jeff
>
> > Yes, those starving children in Africa have nothing but polluted water
> > to drink, Lets just give them a vaccine instead of providing clean
> > water and sanitary conditions!
>
> > Jeff, after all of these years I cant believe your heart hasnt
> > softened.
>
> Please, I have never said anything like that.



I never said you did. But, to make the claim all of these children die
from diarrhea without mentioning the conditions which these children
live in, is deceiving.



>
> Vaccines can be given out over the next year. The kids will still be
> exposed to horrible conditions, inlcuidng poor nutrition, dirty water
> and poverty for years to come. So we need to do both: give them the
> vaccines that save lives and improve their living conditions, including
> improving their water supply, sanitation, nutrition and other living
> conditions. It's going to take far longer to get the nutrition and water
> conditions fixed than it will to give out vaccines.
>
> Jeff-



Yes, and there is no money to be made by just feeding them and giving
them clean water. So, companies see dollar signs instead.
From: Mark Probert on
On Feb 10, 10:13 pm, Kevysmom <kevysmo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > Please engage your brain. He didn't write that 55,000 kids a year die in
> > the US from dehydration. Rather, 55,000 kids are admitted to the
> > hospital. Around 50 kids are killed each year from rotavirus.
>
> No, Thats NOT what he wrote, this is a direct quote on what he wrote.
>
> You mean the man who developed the RotaTEQ vaccine that has saved
> tens
>
> >>>> of thousands of children's lives and has prevented even more
> >>>> hospitalizations?
>
> > According to the World Health Organization, about 1.5 million kids die
> > each year from diarrhea.http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs330/en/index.html
>
> > How sad.
>
> > Jeff
>
> Yes, those starving children in Africa have nothing but polluted water
> to drink, Lets just give them a vaccine instead of providing clean
> water and sanitary conditions!

OK, let's not give them the vaccine, and, since no one seems too gung
ho about providing non-poluted water, let them all die instead. Also,
let 50,000 kids in the USA be admitted to the hospital and have
needles and tubes stuck into them.

THAT, Donna, is just what YOU are saying.

BTW, DONNA, where are those 50,000 kids in the USofA drinking polluted
water?

While we are at it, what makes you "think" it is spread by polluted
water? Have you done ANY research on this? Or, is your blind hatred of
Dr. Offit so overwhelming that you do not even want to learn about
it?

> Jeff, after all of these years I cant believe your heart hasnt
> softened.

Jeff's heart is in the right place. As for softening, look in the make-
up mirror. That has become much softer, from the hairline up.
From: Mark Probert on
On Feb 10, 10:18 pm, Kevysmom <kevysmo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> You mean the man who developed the RotaTEQ vaccine that has saved tens
> > > > >> of thousands of children's lives and has prevented even more
> > > > >> hospitalizations? Of course he should be well compensated for that.
>
> > > > >> As for making more money from the vaccine....not possible.-
>
> > > > >How has the Rota TEQ vaccine saved tens of thousands of lives?
>
> > > > Because diarrhea is one of the leading causes of infant death around
> > > > the world. The last I heard there were 55,000 hospital admissions a
> > > > year in the US as a result of rotavirus infection.
>
> > > I dont believe those numbers, and I certainly dont believe very many
> > > infants die from diarrhea in the US.(Dehydration is curable with a
> > > simple thing called an IV) Maybe in third world countries where they
> > > drink very contaminated polluted water.
>
> > > > >Why was Offits first "diarrhea" vaccine pulled from the market? Did it
> > > > >cause DEATHS in infants?
>
> > > > As it wasn't recalled the question is moot.
>
> > > His FIRST vaccine was indeed recalled, Because it caused DEATHS in
> > > newborn babies.
>
> > Donna, you have to engage YOUR brain. I specifically told you that
> > RotaSHIELD, which was the first rotavirus vaccine, was not developed
> > by Dr. Offit. He developed RotaTEQ, which is being used around the
> > world to save lives.
>
> Ummm, Wrong. Do your own home work, I get tired of doing it for you.

What is "wrong"??? That Dr. Offit did not develop the RotaSHIELD
vaccine? That could not be it, since even the shithole known as
Whale.to does not claim that he did. See:

http://www.whale.to/v/offit1.html

The same page says he developed RotaTEQ, just like I said.

So you are W R O N G!.

> > Try to learn something to overcome your prejudices.
>
> Its not prejudice, its called Truthology!

No, as I just pointed out, using the sewer of whale.to, it is
prejudices.

> > > A different vaccine was
>
> > > > recalled because post-market monitoring indicated a slight increase in
> > > > a condition called intersusception. Nobody died, unlike many of the
> > > > kids who get infected by the virus the vaccine works against.
>
> > > Yes, babies died, thats why it was recalled, And this new vaccine is
> > > causing intersusception also!
>
> > No, it is not. In fact, last night I looked up the information and
> > found that the incidence of intersusception was the same for
> > vaccinated and UNvaccinated kids.
>
> Yes, I read that study too, But the fact is its bullshit!

I see, and you know this how? Crystal balls? Hocus-pocus? You read it
in tea leaves? Just because it defeats your prejudices, does not make
it bullshit.

> > > > >When will Pharma invent a vaccine for sneezing, Im sure that one will
> > > > >save thousands of lives, too!
>
> > > > If you are seriously equating sneezing with rotavirus infection then I
> > > > doubt your sanity.
>
> > > Okay, runny nose? Shall we have a vaccine for runny noses?
>
> > I wish they had a vaccine for stupidity. It would be a help to you.-
>
> Than I wish they had a vaccine for evil people, You certainly would
> benefit from it!-

Yuck. I use facts. You use feces.

From: Mark Probert on
On Feb 11, 6:48 am, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
> Kevysmom wrote:
> >> Please engage your brain. He didn't write that 55,000 kids a year die in
> >> the US from dehydration. Rather, 55,000 kids are admitted to the
> >> hospital. Around 50 kids are killed each year from rotavirus.
>
> > No, Thats NOT what he wrote, this is a direct quote on what he wrote.
>
> > You mean the man who developed the RotaTEQ vaccine that has saved
> > tens
> >>>>> of thousands of children's lives and has prevented even more
> >>>>> hospitalizations?
>
> >> According to the World Health Organization, about 1.5 million kids die
> >> each year from diarrhea.http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs330/en/index.html
>
> >> How sad.
>
> >> Jeff
>
> > Yes, those starving children in Africa have nothing but polluted water
> > to drink, Lets just give them a vaccine instead of providing clean
> > water and sanitary conditions!
>
> > Jeff, after all of these years I cant believe your heart hasnt
> > softened.
>
> Please, I have never said anything like that.
>
> Vaccines can be given out over the next year. The kids will still be
> exposed to horrible conditions, inlcuidng poor nutrition, dirty water
> and poverty for years to come. So we need to do both: give them the
> vaccines that save lives and improve their living conditions, including
> improving their water supply, sanitation, nutrition and other living
> conditions. It's going to take far longer to get the nutrition and water
> conditions fixed than it will to give out vaccines.
>
> Jeff- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Exactly. However, to hate filled Donna, it is either or.

She prefers dead kids.

From: PeterB - Original on
On Feb 10, 9:18 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
> Kevysmom wrote:
> >>>> You mean the man who developed the RotaTEQ vaccine that has saved tens
> >>>> of thousands of children's lives and has prevented even more
> >>>> hospitalizations? Of course he should be well compensated for that.
> >>>> As for making more money from the vaccine....not possible.-
> >>> How has the Rota TEQ vaccine saved tens of thousands of lives?
> >> Because diarrhea is one of the leading causes of infant death around
> >> the world. The last I heard there were 55,000 hospital admissions a
> >> year in the US as a result of rotavirus infection.
>
> > I dont believe those numbers, and I certainly dont believe very many
> > infants die from diarrhea in the US.(Dehydration is curable with a
> > simple thing called an IV) Maybe in third world countries where they
> > drink very contaminated polluted water.
>
> Please engage your brain. He didn't write that 55,000 kids a year die in
> the US from dehydration. Rather, 55,000 kids are admitted to the
> hospital. Around 50 kids are killed each year from rotavirus.
>
> According to the World Health Organization, about 1.5 million kids die
> each year from diarrhea.http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs330/en/index.html
>
> How sad.

But not for lack of vaccine, despite your repeated use of such logical
fallacies.