From: john on

"PeterB - Original" <pkm(a)mytrashmail.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 7, 6:51 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
> john wrote:
> > "dr_jeff" <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote in message
> >news:9OCdnfjKn-Qt2fLWnZ2dnUVZ_tpi4p2d(a)giganews.com...
> >> <copyrighted garbaged deleted>
>
> Autism is not caused by vaccines. Period.

>

That has never been proven. Period.

yep, again and again http://www.whale.to/vaccine/vaccine_autism_proven.html

"there are now at least six published legal or scientific cases of children
regressing into ASD following vaccination - and many more will be revealed
in due time......Another fact that gets little attention in this
never-ending debate is that more than 1,300 cases of vaccine injuries have
been paid out in vaccine court, in which the court ruled that childhood
immunizations caused encephalopathy (brain disease), encephalitis (brain
swelling) and/or seizure disorders. Encephalopathy/encephalitis is found in
most if not all ASD cases, and seizure disorders in about a third of them. "


From: Kevysmom on
On Feb 8, 3:14 am, Peter Parry <pe...(a)wpp.ltd.uk> wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 18:19:37 -0800 (PST), Kevysmom
>
> <kevysmo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >You keep repeating this, Yet, I haven't seen any proof of such a claim.
>
> http://briandeer.com/wakefield/vaccine-patent.htm
>
> UK Patent Application 9711663.6
>
> http://www.ipo.gov.uk/types/patent/p-os/p-find/p-find-number

One of the allegations made by critics of Dr. Wakefield is that his
motivation for opposing the MMR in the news briefing in Feb. 1998 and
afterwards was that he had a financial stake in patent he was seeking
at that time for an alternative vaccine which would compete with the
MMR. This allegation was first made by journalist Brian Deer in Nov.
2004 and then picked up by Paul Offit in Autism's False Prophets in
2008. Offit states that Wakefield had "other financial interests" in
opposing the MMR and that he was a co-holder, with the Royal Free
Hospital, of the patent. In fact, Wakefield was not listed as one of
the applicants in the June 6, 1997 application; almost all the
royalties from whatever vaccine was to be developed would inure to the
benefit of the Royal Free Hospital School of Medicine. The first
applicant named on the form, then, was the Royal Free Hospital School
of Medicine.


The co-applicant on the June 6, 1997 patent was not Dr. Andrew
Wakefield; it was "Neuroimmune Therapeutics Research Foundation." This
imposing-sounding foundation was really the work of one man, the South
Carolina immunologist Hugh Fudenberg. Wakefield wanted to include
him on the application as a way of honoring his life-long work on
"transfer factors," which lay at the heart of the proposed patent.


http://www.drbilllong.com/Autism/WakefieldIX.html
From: Mark Probert on
On Feb 8, 11:26 pm, PeterB - Original <p...(a)mytrashmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 7, 7:08 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 7, 6:51 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
>
> > > john wrote:
> > > > "dr_jeff" <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote in message
> > > >news:9OCdnfjKn-Qt2fLWnZ2dnUVZ_tpi4p2d(a)giganews.com...
> > > >> <copyrighted garbaged deleted>
>
> > > >> The NY Daily News got it right:
>
> > > >>http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2010/02/06/2010-02-06_hippocrates...
>
> > > >http://www.whale.to/a/greek_chorus_h.html
>
> > > Let's see:
>
> > > Andrew Wakefield had a conflict of interest in his studies.
>
> > > The other authors said he did a poor job and withdrew from the paper.
>
> > > He got kids at his children's party to give blood and based his results
> > > on this. Talk about poor selection of subjects.
>
> > > He did unnecessary and potentially dangerous procedures.
>
> > >  From the article: As Alison Singer, president of the Autism Science
> > > Foundation, put it, "That study did a lot of harm. People became afraid
> > > of vaccinations. This is the Wakefield legacy: this unscientifically
> > > grounded fear of vaccinations that result in children dying from
> > > vaccine-preventable diseases."
>
> > > Read more:http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2010/02/06/2010-02-06_hippocrates...
>
> > > Bottom line is that Andrew Wakefield was the best argument that vaccines
> > > cause autism and this argument has been shown to be wrong.
>
> > > Autism is not caused by vaccines. Period.
>
> > Let's not forget that he was developing a "transfer factor" that would
> > substitute for the measles vaccine. His market, thus his income, would
> > be greatly enhanced if there was widespread distrust of the MMR
> > vaccine, which is clearly his intent.
>
> > Pure avarice.
>
> Be sure to tell Offit (whom you defend) before he makes that seventh
> million.-

You mean the man who developed the RotaTEQ vaccine that has saved tens
of thousands of children's lives and has prevented even more
hospitalizations? Of course he should be well compensated for that.

As for making more money from the vaccine....not possible.

From: Mark Probert on
On Feb 8, 11:38 pm, PeterB - Original <p...(a)mytrashmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 8, 11:43 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 7, 9:19 pm, Kevysmom <kevysmo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Let's not forget that he was developing a "transfer factor" that would
> > > > substitute for the measles vaccine. His market, thus his income, would
> > > > be greatly enhanced if there was widespread distrust of the MMR
> > > > vaccine, which is clearly his intent.
>
> > > You keep repeating this, Yet, I haven't seen any proof of such a claim.
>
> > I posted it elsewhere and how he admitted to it in the GMC
> > proceedings.
>
> If you were to tell the truth, would you go "pop" with a poof of
> smoke, or just morph into a pile of locusts?

Listen, stupid, I posted a quote from the GMC report where Wakefield
admitted he was developing a measles transfer factor which would
substitute for a vaccine. Even you are not so stupid as to believe
that if he damaged the market for MMR, that his potion would be a
better seller, and thus make him more money.

Or, have I underestimated your stupidity?

From: Kevysmom on
O
> You mean the man who developed the RotaTEQ vaccine that has saved tens
> of thousands of children's lives and has prevented even more
> hospitalizations? Of course he should be well compensated for that.
>
> As for making more money from the vaccine....not possible.-




How has the Rota TEQ vaccine saved tens of thousands of lives?

Why was Offits first "diarrhea" vaccine pulled from the market? Did it
cause DEATHS in infants?


When will Pharma invent a vaccine for sneezing, Im sure that one will
save thousands of lives, too!