From: Jan Drew on
On Feb 12, 8:36�am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 11, 8:44�pm, Kevysmom <kevysmo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Exactly. However, to hate filled Donna, it is either or.
>
> > > She prefers dead kids.-
>
> > How am I hate filled?
>
> You hate doctors, scientists, Paul Offit, vaccine developers, vaccine
> manufacturers, etc. It is clear from your writings.
>
> > Why are you getting so nasty with me?
>
> I presume you saw my email addressing the same issue.
>
> When you lie with pigs, you get dirty.

You know from your own words. H Y P O C R I T E !!!!

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.health/msg/b9006c88e91c1463

Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative, alt.health, japan.life.health,
misc.health
From: "Mark Probert" <mark_probertREMOVEGARB...(a)hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 07:42:43 -0400
Local: Thurs, Jul 18 2002 7:42 am
Subject: Dear Judy:

When I opened my email last night I was surprised to find some
unsolicited
email from you. I was truly hoping that you had decided to provide
the
documentation of Mannatech's safety and efficacy that you said
existed.

However, I was somewhat dismayed to find email that would make even a
crusty
old Marine drill sgt. blush.


I thought you wee, at least, a lady. It saddens me to have to write to
you
in such a public manner, but, you have earned this.


DO NOT EMAIL ME AGAIN.


If you do, such email constitutes harassment, and I will not suffer it
in
silence. I did not complain to your company, ISP, etc. However, such
behavior on your part will generate a complaint from me.


If you have something to say, keep it public.


Mark Probert


From: Jan Drew on
On Feb 10, 7:54�pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 10, 5:27�pm, PeterB - Original <p...(a)mytrashmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 9, 4:16�am, "john" <nos...(a)bt.com> wrote:
>
> > > "PeterB - Original" <p...(a)mytrashmail.com> wrote in messagenews:f47e089c-534b-42a3-91c4-149ce5feeb18(a)z26g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> > > On Feb 7, 6:51 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
>
> > > > john wrote:
> > > > > "dr_jeff" <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote in message
> > > > >news:9OCdnfjKn-Qt2fLWnZ2dnUVZ_tpi4p2d(a)giganews.com...
> > > > >> <copyrighted garbaged deleted>
>
> > > > Autism is not caused by vaccines. �Period.
>
> > > That has never been proven. �Period.
>
> > > yep, again and againhttp://www.whale.to/vaccine/vaccine_autism_proven..html
>
> > I agree that vaccines are causing a variety of neurological disorders,
> > even death. �I was referring to �the other poster's claim that
> > vaccines do not cause autism.
>
> They don't.

Yes, they do.


If you have some research showing otherwise, post it,

Good grief, Mark S Probert READ...................................

http://www.whale.to/vaccine/vaccine_autism_proven.html

From: Jan Drew on
On Feb 10, 9:18�pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
> Kevysmom wrote:
> >>>> You mean the man who developed the RotaTEQ vaccine that has saved tens
> >>>> of thousands of children's lives and has prevented even more
> >>>> hospitalizations? Of course he should be well compensated for that.
> >>>> As for making more money from the vaccine....not possible.-
> >>> How has the Rota TEQ vaccine saved tens of thousands of lives?
> >> Because diarrhea is one of the leading causes of infant death around
> >> the world. The last I heard there were 55,000 hospital admissions a
> >> year in the US as a result of rotavirus infection.
>
> > I dont believe those numbers, and I certainly dont believe very many
> > infants die from diarrhea in the US.(Dehydration is curable with a
> > simple thing called an IV) Maybe in third world countries where they
> > drink very contaminated polluted water.
>
> Please engage your brain.


Nice personal insult.

He didn't write that 55,000 kids a year die in
> the US from dehydration

Niether did she, not doc. See:

Here I will help you.

I dont believe those numbers, and I certainly dont believe very many
> > infants die from diarrhea in the US.*****(Dehydration is curable with a
> > simple thing called an IV)****** Maybe in third world countries where they
> > drink very contaminated polluted water.
>





.. Rather, 55,000 kids are admitted to the
> hospital. Around 50 kids are killed each year from rotavirus.
>
> According to the World Health Organization, about 1.5 million kids die
> each year from diarrhea.http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs330/en/index.html
>
> How sad.
>
> Jeff

Yes, you are. Still posting as a dr. Without a shred of proof. A
copy of your current medical license will do nicely. What's the
matter, haven't got one?? If you did you should be
proud to show it. This question is for you, ONLY. The gang's trying
to lie and post for you is
not acceptable. You have the copy, or you don't. They do not.


From: Jan Drew on
On Feb 10, 9:33 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 10, 8:17 pm, Kevysmom <kevysmo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > > >> You mean the man who developed the RotaTEQ vaccine that has saved tens
> > > >> of thousands of children's lives and has prevented even more
> > > >> hospitalizations? Of course he should be well compensated for that..
>
> > > >> As for making more money from the vaccine....not possible.-
>
> > > >How has the Rota TEQ vaccine saved tens of thousands of lives?
>
> > > Because diarrhea is one of the leading causes of infant death around
> > > the world. The last I heard there were 55,000 hospital admissions a
> > > year in the US as a result of rotavirus infection.
>
> > I dont believe those numbers, and I certainly dont believe very many
> > infants die from diarrhea in the US.(Dehydration is curable with a
> > simple thing called an IV) Maybe in third world countries where they
> > drink very contaminated polluted water.
>
> > > >Why was Offits first "diarrhea" vaccine pulled from the market? Did it
> > > >cause DEATHS in infants?
>
> > > As it wasn't recalled the question is moot.
>
> > His FIRST vaccine was indeed recalled, Because it caused DEATHS in
> > newborn babies.
>
> Donna, you have to engage YOUR brain.

Well, well. Now, Mark S Probert has to use not doc's line.

I specifically told you that
> RotaSHIELD, which was the first rotavirus vaccine, was not developed
> by Dr. Offit. He developed RotaTEQ, which is being used around the
> world to save lives.

FACT:

Dr Offit = fraud, lies, and vested interest.
>
> Try to learn something to overcome your prejudices.

lol. Try to learn that Offit has committed fraud, lied, and has
vested interest.
>
> > A different vaccine was
>
> > > recalled because post-market monitoring indicated a slight increase in
> > > a condition called intersusception. Nobody died, unlike many of the
> > > kids who get infected by the virus the vaccine works against.
>
> > Yes, babies died, thats why it was recalled, And this new vaccine is
> > causing intersusception also!
>
> No, it is not. In fact, last night I looked up the information and
> found that the incidence of intersusception was the same for
> vaccinated and UNvaccinated kids.
>

It is noted you posted no link.

http://www.ageofautism.com/2008/04/rotateq-causes.html

PAUL OFFIT'S ROTATEQ CAUSES DEATH BY INTUSSUSCEPTION

http://www.ageofautism.com/2008/08/false-prophet-r.html

False Prophet: Rotateq, Created By Paul Offit, Responsible for at
Least One Death

Paul Offit, the vaccine industry's well-paid spokesperson, has been on
quite a roll lately. Recruiting Amanda Peet to be a spokesperson for
the Wyeth-funded Special Interest Dot-org (SID) called Every Child By
Two seems to have given him some new energy in talking to the press.
Consider his comments yesterday to the Orange County Register:

"I asked him whether, given how much money he made because of a
vaccine, he is the best person to advocate for vaccine. Even if we
assume he's never done anything improper, does he have the credibility
to convince the public? He says yes, because he has the knowledge of
how vaccines are tested and created, because he's been behind the
curtain at pharmaceutical companies — things a strictly academic
scientist wouldn't have access to. He admits his vaccine made him
wealthy, but he says he spent 25 years trying to develop it because he
wanted to save kids."

So, Paul Offit admits the Rotateq vaccine has made him wealthy? Offit
goes on to clarify the "a child can tolerate 10,000 vaccines" comment
that CBS News attributed to him:

"Asked whether any specific facts in the story were wrong, he said it
was primarily the tone he objected to. But he did say that the
hospital owns the patent, not him (though he received a share of
royalties from it). Also, when Attkisson noted that he had been quoted
as saying children could safely take up to 10,000 vaccines at once,
"what I actually have said is at least 10,000. It's probably closer to
100,000."

Oh, so it's actually 100,000 vaccines a kid can tolerate?

As many of you know, Paul Offit has a book due this fall called
Autism's False ProphetsL Bad Science, Risky Medicine and the Search
for a Cure. Here's a summary from Amazon:

"A London researcher was the first to assert that the combination
measles-mumps-rubella vaccine known as MMR caused autism in children.
Following this "discovery," a handful of parents declared that a
mercury-containing preservative in several vaccines was responsible
for the disease. If mercury caused autism, they reasoned, eliminating
it from a child's system should treat the disorder. Consequently, a
number of untested alternative therapies arose, and, most tragically,
in one such treatment, a doctor injected a five-year-old autistic boy
with a chemical in an effort to cleanse him of mercury, which stopped
his heart instead.

Children with autism have been placed on stringent diets, subjected to
high-temperature saunas, bathed in magnetic clay, asked to swallow
digestive enzymes and activated charcoal, and injected with various
combinations of vitamins, minerals, and acids. Instead of helping,
these therapies can hurt those who are most vulnerable, and
particularly in the case of autism, they undermine childhood
vaccination programs that have saved millions of lives. An
overwhelming body of scientific evidence clearly shows that childhood
vaccines are safe and does not cause autism. Yet widespread fear of
vaccines on the part of parents persists.

In this book, Paul A. Offit, a national expert on vaccines, challenges
the modern-day false prophets who have so egregiously misled the
public and exposes the opportunism of the lawyers, journalists,
celebrities, and politicians who support them. Offit recounts the
history of autism research and the exploitation of this tragic
condition by advocates and zealots. He considers the manipulation of
science in the popular media and the courtroom, and he explores why
society is susceptible to the bad science and risky therapies put
forward by many antivaccination activists."

Let's try and put all these pieces together:

1. Paul Offit has been made wealthy from Rotateq, according to him.
2. A child can tolerate 100,000 vaccines at one time, according to
him.
3. In his book summary, he misstates the facts surrounding the death
of a child to bolster his argument that biomedical treatment for
autism is quackery.

So, I just have one simple question. For all the ink Paul Offit gets,
how come not a single journalist covered the death of a child from
Paul Offit's vaccine?

And, I guess I have one more question, this one for Dr. Offit. If a
child can tolerate 100,000 vaccines, how did just one of your vaccines
kill a child?

Below, please find a letter from the FDA to Merck & Co. updating the
label to include "death due to intussusception that has occurred after
vaccination with RotaTeq®."

April 30, 2008

Our Submission Tracking Number (STN): BL 125122/443
Merck & Co., Inc.
Attention: Paul L. Koser, Ph.D.
P.O. Box 1000
UG2D-68
North Wales , PA 19454-1099

Dear Dr. Koser:

We have received your April 14, 2008, Supplement to your Biologics
License Application for Rotavirus Vaccine, Live, Oral, Pentavalent, to
include changes to the post-marketing experience section of the label
to include a post-marketing report of a death due to intussusception
that has occurred after vaccination with RotaTeq®. The patient package
insert has also been updated to include this information.

This Supplement has been reviewed under STN 125122/443 and is approved
effective this date.

Please submit all final printed labeling at the time of use and
include implementation information on FDA Form 356h. Please provide a
PDF-format electronic copy.

This information will be included in your License Application File.

Sincerely yours,

/Loris McVittie/
Loris D. McVittie, Ph.D.
Acting Director
Viral Vaccine Branch
Division of Vaccines and
Related Products Applications
Office of Vaccines
Research and Review
Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research

>
>
> > > >When will Pharma invent a vaccine for sneezing, Im sure that one will
> > > >save thousands of lives, too!
>
> > > If you are seriously equating sneezing with rotavirus infection then I
> > > doubt your sanity.
>
> > Okay, runny nose? Shall we have a vaccine for runny noses?
>
> I wish they had a vaccine for stupidity. It would be a help to you.

More proof that Mark S Probert lied when he posted *I* read Torah
everday.



From: Jan Drew on
On Feb 11, 6:18 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
> PeterB - Original wrote:
> > On Feb 11, 4:42 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Feb 11, 4:25 pm, PeterB - Original <p...(a)mytrashmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> On Feb 10, 9:18 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
> >>>> Kevysmom wrote:
> >>>>>>>> You mean the man who developed the RotaTEQ vaccine that has saved tens
> >>>>>>>> of thousands of children's lives and has prevented even more
> >>>>>>>> hospitalizations? Of course he should be well compensated for that.
> >>>>>>>> As for making more money from the vaccine....not possible.-
> >>>>>>> How has the Rota TEQ vaccine saved tens of thousands of lives?
> >>>>>> Because diarrhea is one of the leading causes of infant death around
> >>>>>> the world. The last I heard there were 55,000 hospital admissions a
> >>>>>> year in the US as a result of rotavirus infection.
> >>>>> I dont believe those numbers, and I certainly dont believe very many
> >>>>> infants die from diarrhea in the US.(Dehydration is curable with a
> >>>>> simple thing called an IV) Maybe in third world countries where they
> >>>>> drink very contaminated polluted water.
> >>>> Please engage your brain. He didn't write that 55,000 kids a year die in
> >>>> the US from dehydration. Rather, 55,000 kids are admitted to the
> >>>> hospital. Around 50 kids are killed each year from rotavirus.
> >>>> According to the World Health Organization, about 1.5 million kids die
> >>>> each year from diarrhea.http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs330/en/index.html
> >>>> How sad.
> >>> But not for lack of vaccine, despite your repeated use of such logical
> >>> fallacies.-
> >> They die from a vaccine preventable disease, Rotavirus.
>
> > The term, "vaccine preventable disease" makes the implicit but
> > unproven claim that vaccines prevent disease.  Try backing up your
> > claims with something other than hot air.
>
> Yes, the claim is implicit. It is also proven:http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5841a2.htm?s_cid=mm5841a2_ehttp://www.cdc.gov/rotavirus/http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/abstract/354/1/11
>
> Yes, the effectiveness of the Rotavirus vaccine has been proven. PERIOD.
>
> Jeff

So much for the not doc..................

http://www.ageofautism.com/2008/04/rotateq-causes.html

PAUL OFFIT'S ROTATEQ CAUSES DEATH BY INTUSSUSCEPTION

http://www.ageofautism.com/2008/08/false-prophet-r.html

False Prophet: Rotateq, Created By Paul Offit, Responsible for at
Least One Death

Paul Offit, the vaccine industry's well-paid spokesperson, has been on
quite a roll lately. Recruiting Amanda Peet to be a spokesperson for
the Wyeth-funded Special Interest Dot-org (SID) called Every Child By
Two seems to have given him some new energy in talking to the press.
Consider his comments yesterday to the Orange County Register:

"I asked him whether, given how much money he made because of a
vaccine, he is the best person to advocate for vaccine. Even if we
assume he's never done anything improper, does he have the credibility
to convince the public? He says yes, because he has the knowledge of
how vaccines are tested and created, because he's been behind the
curtain at pharmaceutical companies — things a strictly academic
scientist wouldn't have access to. He admits his vaccine made him
wealthy, but he says he spent 25 years trying to develop it because he
wanted to save kids."

So, Paul Offit admits the Rotateq vaccine has made him wealthy? Offit
goes on to clarify the "a child can tolerate 10,000 vaccines" comment
that CBS News attributed to him:

"Asked whether any specific facts in the story were wrong, he said it
was primarily the tone he objected to. But he did say that the
hospital owns the patent, not him (though he received a share of
royalties from it). Also, when Attkisson noted that he had been quoted
as saying children could safely take up to 10,000 vaccines at once,
"what I actually have said is at least 10,000. It's probably closer to
100,000."

Oh, so it's actually 100,000 vaccines a kid can tolerate?

As many of you know, Paul Offit has a book due this fall called
Autism's False ProphetsL Bad Science, Risky Medicine and the Search
for a Cure. Here's a summary from Amazon:

"A London researcher was the first to assert that the combination
measles-mumps-rubella vaccine known as MMR caused autism in children.
Following this "discovery," a handful of parents declared that a
mercury-containing preservative in several vaccines was responsible
for the disease. If mercury caused autism, they reasoned, eliminating
it from a child's system should treat the disorder. Consequently, a
number of untested alternative therapies arose, and, most tragically,
in one such treatment, a doctor injected a five-year-old autistic boy
with a chemical in an effort to cleanse him of mercury, which stopped
his heart instead.

Children with autism have been placed on stringent diets, subjected to
high-temperature saunas, bathed in magnetic clay, asked to swallow
digestive enzymes and activated charcoal, and injected with various
combinations of vitamins, minerals, and acids. Instead of helping,
these therapies can hurt those who are most vulnerable, and
particularly in the case of autism, they undermine childhood
vaccination programs that have saved millions of lives. An
overwhelming body of scientific evidence clearly shows that childhood
vaccines are safe and does not cause autism. Yet widespread fear of
vaccines on the part of parents persists.

In this book, Paul A. Offit, a national expert on vaccines, challenges
the modern-day false prophets who have so egregiously misled the
public and exposes the opportunism of the lawyers, journalists,
celebrities, and politicians who support them. Offit recounts the
history of autism research and the exploitation of this tragic
condition by advocates and zealots. He considers the manipulation of
science in the popular media and the courtroom, and he explores why
society is susceptible to the bad science and risky therapies put
forward by many antivaccination activists."

Let's try and put all these pieces together:

1. Paul Offit has been made wealthy from Rotateq, according to him.
2. A child can tolerate 100,000 vaccines at one time, according to
him.
3. In his book summary, he misstates the facts surrounding the death
of a child to bolster his argument that biomedical treatment for
autism is quackery.

So, I just have one simple question. For all the ink Paul Offit gets,
how come not a single journalist covered the death of a child from
Paul Offit's vaccine?

And, I guess I have one more question, this one for Dr. Offit. If a
child can tolerate 100,000 vaccines, how did just one of your vaccines
kill a child?

Below, please find a letter from the FDA to Merck & Co. updating the
label to include "death due to intussusception that has occurred after
vaccination with RotaTeq®."

April 30, 2008

Our Submission Tracking Number (STN): BL 125122/443
Merck & Co., Inc.
Attention: Paul L. Koser, Ph.D.
P.O. Box 1000
UG2D-68
North Wales , PA 19454-1099

Dear Dr. Koser:

We have received your April 14, 2008, Supplement to your Biologics
License Application for Rotavirus Vaccine, Live, Oral, Pentavalent, to
include changes to the post-marketing experience section of the label
to include a post-marketing report of a death due to intussusception
that has occurred after vaccination with RotaTeq®. The patient package
insert has also been updated to include this information.

This Supplement has been reviewed under STN 125122/443 and is approved
effective this date.

Please submit all final printed labeling at the time of use and
include implementation information on FDA Form 356h. Please provide a
PDF-format electronic copy.

This information will be included in your License Application File.

Sincerely yours,

/Loris McVittie/
Loris D. McVittie, Ph.D.
Acting Director
Viral Vaccine Branch
Division of Vaccines and
Related Products Applications
Office of Vaccines
Research and Review
Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research