From: Jeff on
On Jul 25, 1:44 pm, Ilena Rose <B...(a)mundo.com> wrote:
> Jeffrey P Utz ... another Healthfraud ... has now joined Probert's
> lies about Hannah Poling's diagnosis. I want to be sure people know
> that Utz at one time had a 'restricted' medical license which he lost.
> Now he flacks for the Vaccination Lobby.www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm

I have no relationship what-so-ever with either of these groups, other
than I subscribe to and participate in their list. Anything I say in
these newsgroups is my opinion, not that of these groups. If what I
have to say agrees with another group, it is merely that the other
group is correct in whatever matter is at hand. In addition, I have no
relationship with any vaccination group, drug company, etc.

Anything I say here is what I am speaking for myself.

> I repeat what Dr. Poling ... who knows a million times more about
> Hannah than disbarred Probert or no longer licensed Utz says:
>
> "Actually—Hannah has diagnoses of DSM-IV Autism (by JHU/KKI
> psychology) and mitochondrial disorder (by two metabolic experts). The
> only ‘degeneration’ that occurred (along with 6mos of total growth
> failure) after 18mos of NORMAL development followed vaccination and
> nothing else!" Dr. Jon Poling, MD, Ph.D, Neurologisthttp://www.ageofautism.com/2008/07/dear-dr-novella.html

I know what Dr Polling said. Nonetheless, the ruling from court did
not find that the vaccine caused autism. Check your facts.

Jeff
From: Mark Probert on
On Jul 25, 12:03 pm, Ilena Rose <B...(a)mundo.com> wrote:
> Disbarred NY attorney, and vapid Snake-oil Vigilante, Vaccination
> Liar, repeated the identical lies that others from Quackwatch and the
> Healthfrauds have been spreading:
>
> "This is the Poling case, where the child had a mitochondrial disorder
> that, after vaccinations, led to autism-like sysmptoms, not autism.
> Reading the original decesion shows just that. "
>
> WRONG
> WRONG
> WRONG
>
> With the damage you have already caused your own family with your
> horrific law practices and utlimate disbarment ... how you continue to
> lie about something so important indicates there is no lower level you
> can sink to.
>
> Is there anything you won't lie about Marla (one of the names Probert
> used to attempt to infiltrate my support group)
>
> Dr. Poling corrected this ... yet Probert and David "Orac does NOT
> KNOW" Gorski keep parroting it. Typical Healthfraud Lies.
>
> "Actually—Hannah has diagnoses of DSM-IV Autism (by JHU/KKI
> psychology) and mitochondrial disorder (by two metabolic experts). The
> only ‘degeneration’ that occurred (along with 6mos of total growth
> failure) after 18mos of NORMAL development followed vaccination and
> nothing else!" Dr. Jon Poling, MD, Ph.D, Neurologisthttp://www.ageofautism.com/2008/07/dear-dr-novella.html

Thanks for the personal attack. Nothing new there, even though I have
not attacked you personally in years. Dr. Gorski has also not
commented on your messages for years.

If you have something to say TO HIM, instead of back stabbing, why not
visit his blog and post a message or two? I have mentioned this
before, and you seem awfully reluctant to do so. Any reason?

As for the AoA site, I had not read it. I usually do not waste my time
reading garbage.



From: Mark Probert on
On Jul 25, 1:59 pm, Jeff <jeff....(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 25, 1:44 pm, Ilena Rose <B...(a)mundo.com> wrote:
>
> > Jeffrey P Utz ... another Healthfraud ... has now joined Probert's
> > lies about Hannah Poling's diagnosis. I want to be sure people know
> > that Utz at one time had a 'restricted' medical license which he lost.
> > Now he flacks for the Vaccination Lobby.www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm
>
> I have no relationship what-so-ever with either of these groups, other
> than I subscribe to and participate in their list. Anything I say in
> these newsgroups is my opinion, not that of these groups. If what I
> have to say agrees with another group, it is merely that the other
> group is correct in whatever matter is at hand. In addition, I have no
> relationship with any vaccination group, drug company, etc.
>
> Anything I say here is what I am speaking for myself.
>
> > I repeat what Dr. Poling ... who knows a million times more about
> > Hannah than disbarred Probert or no longer licensed Utz says:
>
> > "Actually—Hannah has diagnoses of DSM-IV Autism (by JHU/KKI
> > psychology) and mitochondrial disorder (by two metabolic experts). The
> > only ‘degeneration’ that occurred (along with 6mos of total growth
> > failure) after 18mos of NORMAL development followed vaccination and
> > nothing else!" Dr. Jon Poling, MD, Ph.D, Neurologisthttp://www.ageofautism.com/2008/07/dear-dr-novella.html
>
> I know what Dr Polling said. Nonetheless, the ruling from court did
> not find that the vaccine caused autism. Check your facts.

Dr. Novella scares the cleanse out of the Mercury Militia and the
Merchants of Disease, Disability and Death, a/k/a anti-vac liars.
These groups, lead by not-a-real-journalist-any-more Kirby, and anti-
free speech internet bully J. Bully Handley, have launched an
organized attack on Dr. Novella.

From: Mark Probert on
On Jul 25, 1:44 pm, Ilena Rose <B...(a)mundo.com> wrote:

> "Actually—Hannah has diagnoses of DSM-IV Autism (by JHU/KKI
> psychology) and mitochondrial disorder (by two metabolic experts). The
> only ‘degeneration’ that occurred (along with 6mos of total growth
> failure) after 18mos of NORMAL development followed vaccination and
> nothing else!" Dr. Jon Poling, MD, Ph.D,

Dr. Poling refuses to release Hannah's medical records, which HE put
in issue when he makes claims. I wonder why?



From: Raving on
On Jul 26, 12:24 am, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> "Mark Probert" <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> LOL! Certainly Mark S Probert doesn't make any snide remarks.
>
> Then, has the audcity to say *Hypocrite*.

hy·poc·ri·sy:
–noun, plural -sies.

1. 'Hypocrisy' is any argument which takes place between a pair of
identical twins.

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